This entire 2008 campaign is a joke

[blues90]

We call politicians dead instead of out of the running , we have possible and I say possible black box fraud once again , we certainly have the damn machines still in place ready and waiting to steal votes .

There were those insane TV debates that really told us nothing other than maybe the U-tube one .

I don't need grand speeches about hope or hidden promises none of these will change a thing .

We as many know well have a controlled media who spew lies endlessly .

I have heard grand speeches before many years ago but actions followed behind them , who and what can we trust now after 7 years of nothing but lies and back stabbing and corporate take over and control .

We have enormous issues to get past here and all over the globe and we are hated now thanks to this admin and their desire for wars to control power and take resource yet we sit and watch as out resources are shipped out and sent back in the form of products from cheap labor without fair trade or testing and inspection so we get poison and lost jobs to top that off .

So please what we need is real change not a rock star or a speech or bashing and lies and empty promises , we have had out fill of this and to end this with a plan is the only way out .

Bush has lowered the bar so damn low anyone would look and sound better and this to me is part of the risk we face .

[Cooley Hurd]

1. The election is no joke, however the MEDIA has proven itself to be...

...utterly inept in accurately reporting on it.:thumbsdown:

[superkia]

13. The media is doing exactly what its elite boss' tell them, the same...

goes for Bush, he has accomplished allot for the elites agenda and we the American sheeple are inept. Until the sheeple realize what is happening to us, we are done for. There is allot of information out there about what is taking place and what has been taking place for many, many years but too many refuse to take a moment to educate themselves. Americans think we know everything because our government is always telling us how great we are as a people and we eat the shit up.


Where will the herd lead us and will you join them or search out the truth and fight the good fight?

[OhioChick]

2. Well Said. n/t

[Faygo Kid]

3. I don't disagree, except to note that words do count. A lot.

Words without action are empty. But words that inspire action have changed our world.

"In a sense we've come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the unalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note, insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked 'insufficient funds.'"



"Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations."

[DB1]

4. Frustrating isn't it? Almost as bad as all of us who basically agree ....here at DU...

at DU yet we bicker, bitch and call each other names. It is a reflection of what our society has allowed us to become, freedom has its downside, standards are lower, yet I will take all the current lameness of the country and DU in defiance of limiting our liberties, even if those liberties show how ignorant the press and we as citizens can be. I think over time we can rise above it. It is kind of like Walmarts race to the bottom, eventually people say enough is enough and they ban walmart. As both my area and my family have. Progress takes time. We currently have the opportunity to elect a women or a bi-racial man president... That was not possible 40 years ago. I am for Obama, but in zeal for my candidate I refuse to let it stop me from supporting either Clinton or Edwards if Obama does not get nominated. I may have gotten off the point of your post but it sure made me realize how lucky we are to have DU to voice opinions and have them heard by regular people like ourselves. So somebody, anybody, give me hell now.

[K Gardner]

5. The media has turned it into a joke.. I agree with that.

[Kucinich4America]

6. Fuck 'em all! Vote for Dennis!

98% of the country hasn't voted yet. He can win.

[Mutineer]

7. It ain't the media

it's the money. And if you're a third, fourth, fifth tier candidate, you ain't got the money. And if you don't have the money, then the media won't pay you any attention.

[OhioChick]

8. Bingo!

Money Talks......and Then Favors are Owed.

[Echo In Light]

10. No, the media apparatus is quite complicitious in dismantling open society

[OzarkDem]

11. Its the media AND the money

Someone mentioned in GP that they heard the Obama and Clinton campaigns were paying higher rates for tv time than other campaigns. One could conclude those two campaigns are paying big money in exchange for the media ignoring Edwards.

[blues90]

12. That's right , and how many years have we been hearing about

Campaign funding reform , what since the 80's , I forget but it's been around for quite some time , the talk that is .

However , here we are once again with the promises .

It reminds me of the abusive husband telling his wife I promise I'll never strike you again . And what's the different in politics , to me it's the same damn thing .

Certainly there were speeches in the past that have an effect but if these continue to prove empty then soon they will mean nothing at all .


This has what it's come to , what does anything mean when it becomes worn thin through repetition . Lies seem to mean nothing when there is damage done but no penalty paid except for the common people who don't have the means to get their case heard , and money once again talks , same with healthcare or anything else .

[Echo In Light]

9. Never underestimate the power of denial

[OneBlueSky]

14. you are correct, for the following reason(s) . . .

as I posted yesterday . . .

neither of these candidates (Clinton and Obama) is even addressing the critical issues that underlie all other issues, as summarized by Timothy V. Gatto in his recent article entitled The Issues The Candidates Won't Touch . . . to summarize once more, these issues include . . .

1. The corporate hold on the American political system.
2. The erosion of our civil liberties.
3. The Military Industrial Complex
4. The Crimes committed by the Bush Administration.
5. The Truth about September 11th, 2001.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_timothy__080109_the_issues_the_candi.htm

from my perspective, Mr. Gatto should have included a #6: The Privitization of U.S. Elections . . .

without addressing these issues, things like the war and healthcare and all the rest have no hope of solution . . . whether our candidate is Clinton or Obama makes no difference whatsoever, as far as I can see . . . neither will touch any of these issues -- which means that any promises of "change" they make is just meaningless rhetoric . . .

the rest of my post, if anyone cares . . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2651015