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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:05 PM
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Here's my 'belief" why Obama is so so so "bi-partisan"
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 09:07 PM by billbuckhead
I think the reason Obama stands on his head about being bi-partisanship is that he knows he's NOT going to win and doesn't care. It's enough for his future to knock Hillary out and he will be amply rewarded for doing this. He'll go down in the history books as a great man and be on every "bi-partisan' committee his heart desires. He's already a Republican favorite and doesn't even have to conspire with them any more than any corporate monopolistic competitors really have to get together at hotel to work things out, it just makes sense to do thing in certain way. So why we are heartbroken about losing in 2008 and many people will suffer, :tinfoilhat:bama be will laughing all the way to the bank.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:07 PM
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1. What is with the massive influx of conspiracy theory lately?
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:07 PM
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2. Yeah, like all those other people who ran for president just so they could lose...
...tinfoil-hat is right. You must be writing this in a tinfoil ROOM right now...
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:14 PM
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25. Like Al Sharpton thought he was going to win
In fact if :tinfoilhat:bam pulls it off real well, they'll let him lose again in 2012.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:20 PM
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30. Obama and Sharpton are exactly the same, no doubt about it...
...hell, they're both black! How much different can they possibly be?

:sarcasm:
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:45 AM
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32. Running for President is a vocation for some, a perk for others
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 01:05 AM by billbuckhead
Look at all the money some of these candidates got rolling in like Ron Paul. I predict :tinfoilhat:bama will make far more money than Sharpton could ever imagine.

BTW, I'm a mild Cynthia McKinney supporter and strong Harold Ford and Charlie Rangel supporters and you can check back on DU archives. They're more secular candidates. I do believe saying government oaths on the Koran is acceptable as well on just a raised hand but I want far more distance between state and religion and so I distrust :tinfoilhat:bama when he goes religious. I support gay rights. i support womens rights. i want far more regulation of weapons, vehicles and banking. I want to be more of a part of the world community as friend instead of a predator. Doing anything in politics first requires winning.

I believe :tinfoilhat:bama was sent by somebody to stop Hillary. Some think it was God but I bet it was human.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:08 PM
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3. So, you're saying Obama wants to be a Republican?
:shrug:
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:12 PM
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5. He knows he can't win the general election but becomes a hero for beating Hillary
the establishment will reward him with whatever he wants as long as he plays ball.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:15 PM
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9. Doesn't make sense
1) Hillary is an establishment candidate. They don't eat their own.

2) Even the GOP establishment (pro business types) have longed to go mano a mano with Hillary.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:33 PM
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17. If Hillary was such a weak candidate, why is the Republican field so weak?
it was the worst kept secret in politics that she would run for president, why such a moribund field to challenge her?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:19 PM
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11. What on EARTH? 2 states have voted and he won one of them and you're calling him a loser?
Please type out the name of whatever you've had to drink tonite so I can run out and buy it. ;-)
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:58 PM
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22. Obama couldn't win the general election if Jesus Christ ran with him
:tinfoilhat:bama couldn't win the general election if Jesus Christ ran with him under the constraints of the electoral college which severely handicaps the Dems.
:tinfoilhat:bama doesn't have to throw the fight, he just has to be "present" for the crushing "unexpected" defeat which won't be blamed on him but on the evil racist American people. I heard being present is something :tinfoilhat:bama is good at.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:10 PM
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24. Hmm.. so there is no such thing as a state called Iowa then? lol
Wow. Okay.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:19 PM
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27. Obama got 38% of Democratic caucus goer's. It's not a real election anyhow
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 10:20 PM by billbuckhead
I doubt :tinfoilhat:bama could beat Hillary straight up one on one in Iowa in an actual election with close voting booths. And forget about :tinfoilhat:bama beating a living breathing Republican there or almost any state.

"When you find a turtle on a fencepost, it didn't get there by accident."
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:22 PM
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28. Any other states you'd like to make disappear from the country? .....
:nuke:

Just ASKIN' you know, since you seem to be on a roll. :-) :-)
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:19 AM
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31. If we made the electoral college disappear, all states would go away and we wouldn't be divided
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 12:20 AM by billbuckhead
If we made the electoral college disappear, all states would go away and people wouldn't be divided by the artificial and unfair division called states. Why should a person in Wyoming have more voting power than someone from California because of the unfairness of the electoral college? States rights is a hoax, only people can have rights(and corporations!) You're just not cynical enough to see how it really works. in Nov 1999 I was betting around $1000 that Bill Clinton would be president. He hadn't even lost iowa and or did better than expected in NH to call himself the come back kid. Bill Clinton could have lost to Tsongas who was good candidate, Cuomo and some other Dem in the primaries and then he would have to face Desert Storm winner Bush. All those people paid me, shook their heads and a never bet on politics with me again. i lost on Kerry-Edwards because I believed in the exit polls in Ohio and that secretary of state Ken Blackwell would count the votes fairly.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:21 PM
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34. That's TRUE! What a good point. Thank you. I stand corrected. nt
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:08 PM
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4. I think you might just be a little bit insane
And I'm no great supporter of Obama.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:13 PM
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6. I never thought I'd say this about another Mac person, but...
:crazy:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:14 PM
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7. Has he used the word bipartisan?
I think you're mistaking bipartisan for bringing people around to his point of view, which as Hillary says, is way too liberal.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:15 PM
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8. That's dumb.
:hide:
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:18 PM
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10. Huh? You think Obama doesn't want to be president? You are one crazy person! lol
I think Obama wants the presidency as much as Hillary Clinton and John Edwards do!

I hope Edwards wins, but you know what? I'm SURE all of them want to be president. BELIEVE ME THEY DO!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:21 PM
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12. totally agree
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:28 PM
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14. The Republicans will make him a billionaire if he beats Hillary
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 09:29 PM by billbuckhead
and then plays the Alan Keyes roll in the general election. :tinfoilhat:bama will be on every bi-partisan commitee he wants, on any board of directors he wants, the military-industrial complex will give him whatever he wants as long as he plays ball. His grandfather was an admiral, why not?
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:28 PM
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15. The Republicans will make him a billionaire if he beats Hillary
and then plays the Alan Keyes roll in the general election. :tinfoilhat:bama will be on every bi-partisan commitee he wants, on any board of directors he wants, the military-industrial complex will give him whatever he wants as long as plays ball. His grandfather was an admiral, why not?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:38 PM
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19. Obama is right wing? nt
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:50 PM
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21. Obama just joining the corporate power structure by blocking Hillary
:tinfoilhat: becomes the leading civil rights leader, a bi-partisan leader in the senate, blow jobs from Oprah and god knows whatever else he want. All this for stopping Hillary and letting the Republicans have an easy victory in 2008 when they should have lost. :tinfoilhat:bama's grandfather was an admiral, why wouldn't he part of the military-industrial complex?

"Whenever you see a turtle on top a fence post, it didn't get there by accident".
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:09 PM
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23. Take a deep breath and go have a Nestle's Crunch bar or something :-)
I think you need a little relaxation and comfort food.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:26 PM
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13. I think it's because Obama puts flouride in our drinking water. n/t
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:31 PM
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16. I bet he's pro-vaccination too!
:tinfoilhat:

And I bet his jet leaves contrails!!! :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:36 PM
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18. And he had something to do with Twin Towers demolition on 9/11
I just know it!

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:39 PM
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20. we won't see that attitude from him in other states where repubs aren't allowed to vote
in our primary or participate in our caucus.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:18 PM
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26. I believe
you are silly,
and wrong.

I think that some people really do want to live in peace as much as possible.

I think Obama is one of them- And I am another.
I'm tired of alienation, divisiveness, prejudice and marginalization.

But that doesn't mean you have to believe the same way as I do-
I won't marginalize, ignore or belittle you for your beliefs.

It's a big world.
And we all have to learn to share.

peace,
blu
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:30 PM
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29. Anything that can be fixed usually is fixed
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 10:31 PM by billbuckhead
Like the last 2 Bush victories weren't fixed. This is just a more sophisticated way of fixing the election. Causing the other side to have a weak opponent isn't that uncommon, Dems in California help the most conservative Republican nutjobs win in the primary so they don't have to face a competitive Republican like Richard Reardon for an example. Many Republicans have longed bragged about voting for Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton in the prinmaries to pull the Dems too far to the left or actually nominate an unelectable candidate. So don't trust all those "independent" voters in the primary. :tinfoilhat:bama is playing Dem voters. He'll succeed and we'll fail.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:48 AM
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33. I think he thinks he can win and that this is not his plan..... will this be what plays out?
Probably.
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