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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:19 PM
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John Edward’s Body: An American Saint
Someone asked for it, so here it is, a follow up to my journal about Obama as Messiah. This one is about Edwards, and his mythic appeal. I guess I will do Hillary next. I am not doing any of the Republicans, because I do not find any of them appealing.

I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night,
Alive as you and me.
Says I "But Joe, you're ten years dead"
"I never died" said he,
"I never died" said he.



In her book about Haiti and Jamaica, Tell My Horse Zora Neale Hurston describes the phenomenon in which the spirit Guede takes possession of or “mounts” a human subject. People of the lowest social classes suddenly begin to speak freely, criticizing their “betters” in the bluntest of terms, no matter what the danger or cost to themselves may be.

It seems to be his mission to expose and reveal. At any rate, Guede is a whimsical diety, and his revelations are often startlingly accurate and very cruel…Perhaps that is natural for the god of the poor to be akin to the god of the dead for there is something about poverty that smells of death.


Haiti, like the United States, is a land that is defined by the warring spirits of colonialism and revolution. Here, in the US, we also have a tradition in which people from the lowest social classes dare to rise above their “place” in a way that would not be tolerated in Europe. Across the Atlantic Ocean, these upstarts would be firmly labeled as revolutionaries---Trotskys. Here, they become American Saints.

Some have compared Barack Obama to Abraham Lincoln. I am not sure why. Maybe it is because of their body type, tall and lean. Maybe it because Lincoln presided over the Civil War which freed the slaves, and Obama is half White, half Black. However, John Edwards is closer to the Abe Lincoln type.

What follows is not meant to be definitive history. These are American narratives:

Lincoln was born in a single room cabin to two uneducated parents. He was self educated for the most part. He made his career and fortune as a lawyer, something he was extremely good at. Though he married a woman from a southern, slave owning family (a contradiction that would be exploited by his political enemies the way the contradiction between Edwards' wealth and populism is currently being exploited), his politics tended towards what we would today call the left—--anti-slavery, anti-imperialist, pro-working class. He was the underdog presidential candidate in 1860 of a new party that preached that “free labor” was better than the power wielded by slave owners. His election sparked the greatest divide the country had ever known. He was definitely a “divider” not a “uniter” regardless of what he may have hoped or intended. His assassination at the end of the war seems inevitable, if only because it is the logical ending to that way that the story of his life is framed. He was, after all, the saintliest American president in the eyes of many, and saints end up martyrs.

Obama is the child of educated parents. Despite the turbulence of his early years, he attended private middle school and high school in Hawaii, and he went on to Ivy League college and law school. He is a product of all that is best of the American educational system. His campaign rhetoric is full of unity and harmony and can’t we all just get along. There is much to love in Obama and little to fear. A mentally ill individual might target him, because he is a celebrity, but he does not inspire antipathy.

John Edwards, on the other hand, is a lot like Lincoln. The son of a working class family in which no one before him had ever gone to college, he worked part time in a mill while in high school, then he went to a public college and law school. He made his fortune practicing as a plaintiff’s attorney for a couple of decades, before he decided to go into politics after the death of his son. His campaign rhetoric is 100% populist. He wants no part of “unity”. If Obama is the Messiah who comes to bring the people together in their time of adversity, John Edwards is St. Joan of Arc who comes to lead them into battle, irregardless of the cost to her/himself. Or, since I am writing about American saints, he is John Brown, that polarizing figure from the years before the Civil War, about whom Frederick Douglas wrote

"Did John Brown fail? John Brown began the war that ended American slavery and made this a free Republic. His zeal in the cause of freedom was infinitely superior to mine. Mine was as the taper light; his was as the burning sun. I could live for the slave; John Brown could die for him."


The main difference between the superman/messiah and the saint is the former is invulnerable. The superhero may choose to die for our sins, but he will always be reborn or survive the bullet. He was born under a blessed star. The trials of his early years can not diminish him. His kingly, heroic demeanor and gifts always shine through at a fairly early age, and he is revealed to be the chosen one—like Obama.

The saint, on the other hand, endures many trials. His children die. His wife gets cancer. He faces midlife crisis. His faith is tested. He is reviled by the press. His very life becomes disposable. Like John Henry, a machine appears that will take away his livelihood, and he ends up sacrificing his own existence in order to save the American worker. Like Joe Hill, he is framed for murder and executed to stop his activities as a union organizer. Like John Brown, he must become a murderer and then allow himself to die, in order to convince others that slavery is a form of intolerable violence. Even if he does not die a physical death, he lives like an ascetic, pushing himself beyond the limits of the flesh---36 hour marathon campaign stops fueled by pure passion.

Here is what Joseph Campbell said about the hero as saint in The Hero With a Thousand Faces

Should the feelings chance to become aware of the real import of the world’s act and thoughts, one would know what Oedipus knew; the flesh would suddenly appear to be an ocean of self-violation. This is the sense of the legend of Pope Gregory the Great, born of incest, living in incest, he flees to a rock in the sea, and there does penance for his very life.


John Edwards is a very rich man. Moreover, he made that money himself. Most Americans in his shoes would retire, secure in the knowledge that they have had successful careers in every way that matters as Americans---big house, lovely wife, fine children, cash in the bank, top of their profession. However, John Edwards became aware of something ----maybe the same something that turned the prince Siddhartha away from his wealth and family----that made success no longer enough. This makes John Edwards a very dangerous, very frightening man to those who seek to control the American masses through the narrative America is a great land, because everyone here has an equal opportunity to get rich. . If the Great Game Show in which we live is not really enough, then what is?

I have always suspected that many journalists are failed writers of fiction, plays and screenplays. The sloppy way that the corporate media has handled the St. John Edwards problem would tend to confirm this. Nietzsche wrote “What does not kill me, makes me stronger” This is oh so true when it comes to the trials of the saints. The more times they are dropped in vats of boiling oil or forced to walk through pits of poisonous vipers only to emerge unscathed, the greater their prestige as saints becomes. When the corporate media assigned John Solomon to pen his Edwards is a Phony narrative for the Washington Post in advance of the presidential campaign season, it drew left wing voters’ eyes to the candidate. “Hmmm,” they thought. “The corporate media is attacking Edwards. Is he the real McCoy?” The studied way in which the mainstream media blacklisted him, the myth of the Two Man Race between Hillary and Obama served to further cement Edwards’ reputation as a saint under attack by the nation’s corporations. And then, when he came in second in Iowa, and the press continued the Two Man Race farce, suspicions were confirmed. John Edwards was a media martyr.

And only saints get martyred by the American press.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:22 PM
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1. Oh my.I am speechless.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:34 AM
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33. ah.... um.... whoo. nt.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:24 PM
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2. Lovely, bittersweet, sad....and if you are right, a great loss for this country.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:25 PM
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3. Nice.
And it begs the question. If not to carry the banner for the most important fight on the horizon, why would John be trying to become President? Certainly not for the prestige--he's one of the most respected men in his chosen profession already. Not wealth--he has plenty of that. Power? Nothing in his history would suggest he's particularly attracted to power for its own sake. Even his detractors can't and don't say so.

So why would he pursue the Presidency--not once, but twice--but for precisely the reasons he states?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:37 PM
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9. why does anyone?...
the really odd thing for me, is that these candidates are more similar than they are different. Not one of them has not supported the 'bad guys' at one time or another. All have made speeches with some disturbing language included. Plus, no one gets to play unless they have some enormous capital propelling them to that level. It's kind of funny that there is no difference between the arguments used between liberals and freepers, than the one's I'm seeing on DU between different candidates supporters.
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:28 PM
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4. Off To The Greatest.....5th Rec!!
:headbang:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:29 PM
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5. Wow!
:-)
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:31 PM
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6. You forgot the 24 million Edwards made in Hedge Funds. And his corporate friendly Senate years
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 06:32 PM by cryingshame
and his center-right run for POTUS last time.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:35 PM
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7. Way to crap on a nice thread, cryingshame. geez.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:43 PM
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15. All they have is that hedge fund crap. So let them have their fun.
And why are they so worried about Edwards? By all accounts, he doesn't stand a chance against Obamamania. :evilgrin:
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:28 AM
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30. You're eating up the Anti-Hillary "Joan of the Arc" Clinton vote!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:40 PM
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11. Don't leave any feces unflung.
:eyes:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:40 PM
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13. And just where do you think your pension money is?
And that 401(K)? Everyone is invested in the same corporate structure. There is nothing wrong with that as long as the corporations are regulated and play by the rules. It is really OK to work hard and make money. Edwards is not a socialist. By no means. He just wans a fair playing field.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:50 PM
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41. Who's wealthy enough to contribute to a 401K?
Not the average working American, that's for sure.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:37 PM
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8. Poignant piece. Well done! K&R nt
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:39 PM
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10. !
:applause:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:40 PM
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12. FYI.. Lincoln had syphilis which he acquired in a homosexual relationship with his first law partner
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 06:41 PM by sam sarrha
he later gave it to his wife, the source of his tragic depression, he never entered the final stages of the disease because of his assignation, but she went mad/insane from syphilis of the brain and was institutionalized for the rest of her life.

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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:19 AM
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28. That sucks. Is it true? n/t
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:31 AM
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32. yes,.. his wife died of it, i have a book that is a history of syphilis, will try to get the title
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 08:43 AM by sam sarrha
for you.. people kept detailed journals in the past, Beethoven and Bach had it too, Beethoven went deaf because of it, and the disease caused auditory hallucinations which he and other composers were able to write down.. one reason no one after penicillin has written such heavenly music

the disease was tragic, in Victorian days up to 40%+ of males had it

it had phases of infection.. one notable writer wrote in his journal..'i awoke this morning envious of yesterdays agonies'

Niche's philosophy's were born out of the insanity of syphilis of the brain...

if it hadn't been for syphilis we would be probably living in a Star Trek society.. the cost to humanity has been unimaginable
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:14 PM
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37. How tragic.
And yet it seems a lot of good came from it. Thank you for the information. I'd like to read the book.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:13 PM
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38. the book is . "Pox": madness, genius and the myth of syphilis. by Debora Hayden, you can get it used
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 04:25 PM by sam sarrha
in paper back for $2 plus 3+
shipping.. http://www.amazon.com

check out 'the shock doctrine:the rise of disaster capitalism' by Naomi Klein. $15, it is the book of the century.. explains why we keep asking.."what the Hell is going on"? it is hard cover, 558 pages and 92 pages are footnotes and index, the mark of a significant piece of work

it explains Globalism and the Thugs love for free trade.. why the ReThugs are hanging on so tight, willing to steal elections and go to prison, it explains the bazaaro world after Reagan.

Klein is on Randi Rhodes all the time.. it is just amazing.!!!

couldn't help myself.. i also got 'Conservatives without a conscience', by john dean of Watergate.. really cheap..

I'm on disability till march, have time to read.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:42 PM
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14. I wish I could write like you.........damn n/t
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:44 PM
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16. Apostrophe Protection Society
Check it out, DU'ers.

http://www.apostrophe.fsnet.co.uk/

Good piece, btw.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:57 PM
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23. And...there's confusion so often over "there," "their," and "they're." nt
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ExPatLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:25 AM
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31. Oh THANK YOU!
Apostrophe abuse bugs the heck out of me, and it seems to be a growing problem. I hope you will continue to link to that page!! :D
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:45 PM
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17. great post.. very informative.. i have that song by micky heart, love it
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:18 PM
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18. K&R!!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:21 PM
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19. "And only saints get martyred by the American press. " -that makes the Clintons
the biggest saints of all....:rofl:
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:58 PM
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22. Bill was. Remember the photo with his head titled to his left, his eyes downcast, the presidential
seal behind his head (just like a combo halo/crown of thorns) that the newspapers ran over and over again during the impeachment? The one that made him look like Jesus on the Cross? I took one look at that, and I knew that even though the MSM had made a conscious decision to crucify him, the artists within the MSM (the photographers) recognized that he was a martyr---which meant that St. Bill was not only going to survive the impeachment process, he was going to emerge stronger--and Newt Gingrinch and the Republicans were going to cry after the 1998 fall elections. This was why I was able to predict that the 1998 midterm elections would be the ones in which the Republicans would take aim at their own foot even as other Democrats were worrying---and it was all based (initially) on that one pesky, newspaper photograph that just would not go away. Art tells you so much about the state of mind of a people.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:48 AM
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35. I don't recall any saints being impeached for lying. Bill Clinton was no saint;
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 08:52 AM by mnhtnbb
Hillary might qualify for putting up with him.

On edit: Bill qualifies more for the role of the tragic hero--the guy who has everything
yet manages to create his own downfall.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:41 AM
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36. beware of the mighty Clenis....he will mess with your saints gallery and your mind
:rofl:
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:24 PM
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20. Edwards is a dangerous man, indeed
He became rich on his own, then made it his mission to ensure others can have the same opportunities. He fears no one.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:35 PM
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21. Great post. I agree he can be likened to Joan of Arc, not in the
religious sainthood sense but in the political arena, his role is similar.

Very interesting post...thanks.
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fuzzy otter pop Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:28 PM
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24. see here is the thing.....
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 10:38 PM by fuzzy otter pop
john is a millionaire.
he could be in Hawaii right now sitting on his ass
drinking pina colatas

playing with his kids

enjoying his wifes company

while he still can

but he is not

he is running for president

the most thankless task
for the most thankless job

either he is biggest most vapid ego maniac ever
or
he cares about this country and the people in it

if it was just about ego
then he could go kick Liddy Dole's ass out of the senate and
have his ass kissed for the rest of his life
by professionals
Strom Thurman style
and

he is still a young man

he could be president later

yet there he is

freezing his ass of in NH

i could think of 100's if not 1000's of other ways to stoke my ego


he really seems to believe in this country and the people in it

And i have to admit

I sometimes wonder why
because we all seem like such a pack of idiots most of the time.......

whatever his reasons i will be here in Las Vegas on caucus day to stand up for him.



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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:36 PM
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25. Bravo!
:applause:

:yourock:
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:07 AM
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26. So do we want a superhuman savior or someone who could be any one of us
I guess is the question.

Way to go with the mythic analysis, McCamy. I can see why there's not much to say about the Republicans. There are no myths for them to ride except for those of the black holes, which suck everything into themselves.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:30 AM
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27. I sort of like some of the Ron Paul supporters--the ones chasing Hannity yelling "Fox News Sucks"
They are mythic is a beserker/self destructive kind of way. Like Loki, the god of chaos. I am just glad that they belong to the other party and I don't ever want to see Ron Paul anywhere near my White House.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:01 AM
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29. Another great post, thanks
Looking forward to your next one.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:47 AM
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34. Edwards reminds me of Don Quixote--and especially the
French view of the story "After the French Revolution it was popular in part due to its central ethic that individuals can be right while society is quite wrong and disenchanting—not comic at all."

From Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote

It's very difficult to understand why the masses don't get it--or him.
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:41 PM
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39. K & R ... Only instead of a raid on the Federal Arsenal @ Harper's Ferry,
with 21 true-believing followers, Edwards should plan and carry out an assault on the Justice Dept, to "free" Sibel Edmonds access to American media.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:44 PM
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40. Oh, Brother.
If John Edwards is a "saint," then I'm the Queen of England.

:eyes:

Seriously, no one here finds this odd?
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:56 PM
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42. Kick ...
:kick:
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:46 PM
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43. Beware the Jabberwocky! Or in the case of the American voter,
the press, because what they are reporting is a MYTH!!!!! This is not a two person race between Obama, and Hillary. John Edwards has a message that needs to be taken to the White House!!!
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