Obama's Delusional DKos Diary: sez Repukes NOT "partisan, radically conservative, take-no-prisoners"

[StefanX]

Hey Dems! Do you want to elect a guy again who's dumber than you? Then vote Obama!

Check out how naive this guy was in 2005, after all the years of Republican bipartisan date-rape.

Barack Obama's delusional Kos diary

Obama published a diary on Kos in 2005. Here’s an excerpt. Readers, I'm not making this up!

Obama: "According to the {implicitly false, remember} storyline that drives many advocacy groups and Democratic activists - a storyline often reflected in comments on this blog - we are up against a sharply partisan, radically conservative, take-no-prisoners Republican party."

...Oh-k-a-a-a-a-a-y...

I really have to underline that this is not a story in The Onion. It’s real. Unfortunately.

We’re not talking labels and jargon. We’re not talking semantics.

We’re talking basic, basic stuff; evidence versus delusion.

In 2005 Obama believed that:

1. Republicans are not partisan.

2. Republicans are not radically conservative.

3. Republicans are not take-no-prisoners.

I don’t know whether these view—can they actually be beliefs? -- make Obama unfit to be President. After all, we’ve got Bush in there now, and he's as ... delusional as they come.

I am sure that these views make Obama, er, a less-than-ideal nominee for President by the Democratic Party, because they are wildly at variance with the experience of the members of that party.

http://correntewire.com/barack_obamas_delusional_kos_diary

Wake up people. Hillary and Obama are owned by corporations and they're NOT gonna fight for you if you elect one of them. Obama attacked Krugman -- one of the best liberal voices we have in the MSM. Obama lied about his NH campaign chair being a lobbyist. And as for Hillary -- you all know she's just a focus-grouped, pandering, Third Way DLC Dem who will screw you once she's in office.

I like Edwards. Edwards is going to fight the main thing that's hurting us -- he's going to fight against the corporations that are bleeding us try.

Edwards is also a pretty decent charmer as well. After 2004, when the Repukes tried to call his fighting "divisive" and "class warfare," he's learned how to present the fighting as actually being about UNITING all of us against the corporations.

The media hates Edwards, and doesn't even mention his name, even though he's in 2nd or 3rd place. That oughta tell you enough right there.

- Edwards isn't owned by lobbyists/corporations, like Hillary and Obama are.
- Edwards knows how to fight and win against corporations. He does this as a trial lawyer.
- Edwards has much more specific and people-positive programs than Obama's vague slogans.

Please vote for the fighter, not for the hoper!

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

1. Why don't you post a link instead of quoting out of context? n/t

[StefanX]

3. Link added (sorry, I overlooked it on the first time around)

nt

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

10. Is it so hard to post a link to the original diary instead of a commentary?

I think people can make up their minds for themselves. Since you won't do it, here:

http://obama.senate.gov/blog/050930-tone_truth_and_the_democratic_party/index.html

[niyad]

2. how about providing a link to that article?

[StefanX]

4. Link added (sorry, I omitted it the first time around)

nt

[avaistheone1]

5. OK that Obama statement really turns me off to him and

also the one where Obama says that Bush has not done anything grave enought to deserve impeachment.

Ewwwwwwwww.


:nuke:

[Bicoastal]

6. You took a TINY excerpt of what he actually said and blew it up to mammoth proportions...

...this may officially qualify as a message board found-art collage.

[aquart]

7. How did Hillary get dragged into this?

[lvx35]

16. Hillary has to be dragged into every post attacking Obama

Usually at the end. The advantage is that they can cite the source for Obama, but don't have to cite any source for saying Hillary is exactly the same.

[iconoclastic cat]

8. When someone pleads, "I'm not making this up!" I become skeptical. nt

[killbotfactory]

9. Here's the full article Obama wrote

According to the storyline that drives many advocacy groups and Democratic activists - a storyline often reflected in comments on this blog - we are up against a sharply partisan, radically conservative, take-no-prisoners Republican party. They have beaten us twice by energizing their base with red meat rhetoric and single-minded devotion and discipline to their agenda. In order to beat them, it is necessary for Democrats to get some backbone, give as good as they get, brook no compromise, drive out Democrats who are interested in "appeasing" the right wing, and enforce a more clearly progressive agenda. The country, finally knowing what we stand for and seeing a sharp contrast, will rally to our side and thereby usher in a new progressive era.

I think this perspective misreads the American people. From traveling throughout Illinois and more recently around the country, I can tell you that Americans are suspicious of labels and suspicious of jargon. They don't think George Bush is mean-spirited or prejudiced, but have become aware that his administration is irresponsible and often incompetent. They don't think that corporations are inherently evil (a lot of them work in corporations), but they recognize that big business, unchecked, can fix the game to the detriment of working people and small entrepreneurs. They don't think America is an imperialist brute, but are angry that the case to invade Iraq was exaggerated, are worried that we have unnecessarily alienated existing and potential allies around the world, and are ashamed by events like those at Abu Ghraib which violate our ideals as a country.

http://obama.senate.gov/blog/050930-tone_truth_and_the_democratic_party/index.html

[aquart]

11. Well, he was right about what America thinks.

And this guy is gonna cozy up to the Republicans and kiss them on the lips. LOL!

[readmoreoften]

13. In context, it's even more damning.

If you don't know that we're up against a "sharply partisan, radically conservative, take-no-prisoners" Republican party, and if you don't want to "give as good as you get, get some backbone, and enforce a more clearly progressive agenda" then you're (a) politically blind, and (b) you're pretty much admitting you won't fight and you have no plans to enforce a "more clearly progressive agenda" (I might add, more progressive than what? Bush's agenda? Bill Clinton's agenda?)

I don't want a government that's more 'responsible' and 'competent' in how they wage war. I don't want a pro-corporate president who throws little crumbs at workers and small business people.

This is awful, awful, awful.

[StefanX]

12. Here's a longer version of the Obama quote. This guy was really naive in 2005!

This is straight from Obama's website. It's on Obama's website TODAY.

He says that the following four things are MYTHS:

OBAMA SAYS THIS IS A MYTH: "We are up against a sharply partisan, radically conservative, take-no-prisoners Republican party."

OBAMA SAYS THIS IS A MYTH: "They have beaten us twice by energizing their base with red meat rhetoric and single-minded devotion and discipline to their agenda."

OBAMA SAYS THIS IS A MYTH: "In order to beat them, it is necessary for Democrats to get some backbone, give as good as they get, brook no compromise, drive out Democrats who are interested in "appeasing" the right wing, and enforce a more clearly progressive agenda.

OBAMA SAYS THIS IS A MYTH: "The country, finally knowing what we stand for and seeing a sharp contrast, will rally to our side and thereby usher in a new progressive era."

I repeat people, OBAMA THINKS THE ABOVE FOUR POINTS ARE MYTHS. Do you agree with him?

The man is clearly out to lunch and has NO comprehension of current US politics.

Vote for him and he will NOT fight for you. (But he will flash his smile and charm at those Repukes and neocons and corporate cannibals who are killing you! Yeah!)

Here's the link and his full (also very badly written, double-negative-like) out-to-lunch statement:

http://obama.senate.gov/blog/050930-tone_truth_and_the_democratic_party/index.html

According to the storyline that drives many advocacy groups and Democratic activists - a storyline often reflected in comments on this blog - we are up against a sharply partisan, radically conservative, take-no-prisoners Republican party. They have beaten us twice by energizing their base with red meat rhetoric and single-minded devotion and discipline to their agenda. In order to beat them, it is necessary for Democrats to get some backbone, give as good as they get, brook no compromise, drive out Democrats who are interested in "appeasing" the right wing, and enforce a more clearly progressive agenda. The country, finally knowing what we stand for and seeing a sharp contrast, will rally to our side and thereby usher in a new progressive era.

I think this perspective misreads the American people.

[OzarkDem]

14. Obama insults progressives

How can any Dem progressive vote for someone who so strongly opposes everything they believe?

[demnan]

15. I went back and read the article.

I am now convinced this man should be President. It was thoughtfully written by a person with a subtle mind who is determined to get things done. Much like Paul Wellstone.

Thanks for convincing me even though you didn't intend to.

[StefanX]

17. I think you misunderstood the article. He's saying that all these things are MYTHS

He's saying they're not out to get us. You believe him?

[demnan]

18. Yes

he said the people don't trust labels and that is true. He said that there is negotiation and that is true.

Look at the situation with Lamont. That didn't work. I know my way of thinking doesn't work. We didn't get impeachment and we didn't get Kucinich. This guy maybe has figured out why.

I'm willing to believe he's a lot smarter than I am.