The media is playing king maker

[nadinbrzezinski]

see what is going on...

First they said Senator Clinton is inevitable... and there are valid reasons that they like her... the corporations that is.

Well that didn't work... so now they are playing the same shit with Obama, who is their man right now. They abandoned Senator Clinton, and in fact they may be helping her along in her demise.

Finally... the invisible candidate in the top three is the man that scares them... John Edwards.

And for the Republicans... they pushed Mitt HARD... and now that Huckabee won a primary (I will remind you republican Populists aren't good for the bottom line either) are doing all they can to ignore the Huckster... and we all know how carefully they have ignored Dr. Paul

Of course they have also studiously ignored and marginalized Kucinich, for similar reasons.

So as you hear the MSM... remember, they are trying to once again play king maker. Their first successful exercise was ronnie reagan, and the second... bar none, was Junior.

Be aware of this as you watch coverage and see their narrative.

[tridim]

1. I'm not an Obama supporter yet, but I think it's much simpler than that.

The American people like Obama and dislike the media. The media is just starting to figure it out.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Both my brother in law and I have been watching this and comparing

it to narratives in previous campaigns... and they are playing the game

Now that is not to say the American people cannot decide on their own... in fact I believe the media is loosing some clout. That said... they ARE playing kingmaker... and you can see this in how they REPORT

Keith last night... has obama sown up the nomination? Hold it... Iowa, NH... what about the rest of the country?

Before the voting started they had the same exact meme with Hillary and with Junior they also had the same meme.

Just an observation

And as always one has to ask, cui bono?

[Beetwasher]

25. You're RIGHT, BUT, They ARE FAILING

Their influence is waning. People now have the internets and are becoming hip to their bullshit. This crap they pulled w/ Hillary and her showing in NH shows that the traditional media stranglehold is being broken.

We've got a ways to go in breaking their hold, but it IS happening.

[Radical Activist]

2. The people are chosing Obama.

The tens of thousands of people making small donations to Obama's campaign, more than any other candidate, chose Obama. The people of Iowa chose Obama and the press is reacting to that.

Edwards ran for President before and was on the national ticket. People know who he is. If people wanted him to be President he would be leading the polls and he would have done better in Iowa. Kucinich has always suffered from media censorship but blaming the media for Edwards doing badly is a lame excuse. Edwards started this race with higher name recognition than Obama and gets plenty of media coverage.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Explain to me the Countdown narrative (and all over the place as well)

that Obama has sown this up

Voting Sir is far from over.

read above though

[Radical Activist]

8. The media is reactive right now.

They pushed Hillary as the front runner for a year. Now that Iowa and the national polls are telling them they were wrong, they're adjusting their coverage. Its the same way they turned on Dean after promoting him for months when they realized he wasn't going to win.

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. wrong, they started to play king maker with Reagan

and they are continuing

Their effect may lower as the years pass and an alternative media is built... but for the moment they still have way too much influence on the process

[TwilightGardener]

5. Huckabee is ignored? Are you shitting me? He's on TV and radio 24/7--

they pushed him RELENTLESSLY, even though he's a substanceless psychotic clown.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. AFTER Iowa, not before

I am sure a poli sci student in a hundred years, or even twenty, will have fun studying the 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006 and 2008 campaigns and he effect of the media in who actually wins... yep, exceptions present

[TwilightGardener]

13. No--he's been getting fawning press and media coverage since last

August. You couldn't swing a dead cat with out hitting Huckabilly for the last few months. He is purely a media creation, because he's all one-liners and photo-ops with his bass and Chuck Norris. But I agree, the media crowns the kings, although sometimes the voters don't listen.

[Benhurst]

7. Huckabee is "a substanceless psychotic clown"? Dear God, help us!

That sure sounds presidential to me. I guess that means Huckabee's our next leader.

:rofl:

[EFerrari]

9. Exactly. WJ this morning didn't even have DK on their list

of events today.

John Edwards scares the cr@p out of the Thuggery. I hope he hangs in there because he could clean their clocks.

[AspenRose]

10. In watching BBC World News last night, Edwards wasn't mentioned at all.

FWIW, this was posted in the Biden forum and I think it is germane to the discussion here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK7DRPyNAHA

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. Very germane to this discussion... thanks

the problem is that partisans, whether they got to their candidate on their own, or were guided, have a problem realizing how high of an effect the media has on their choice.

It started being extremely obvious with Reagan... but now it is extremely obvious to anybody paying truly any attention

[OzarkDem]

11. Its even more obvious this time around

I'm shocked that any clear thinking Dems supporting Obama can't see through it. Or it could be they just really want to belong to that GOP/news media insiders club?

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. Most folks do not want to admit that the leader (insert leader here)

is the leader because of media bias.

[DaLittle Kitty]

12. RIGHT ON BROTHER! K&Rec!

Totall y ROCK SOLID assessment!:think: That's what's missing along w/ ANY mention of "HOW" by the Anointed One! :eyes:

[Missy M]

14. The media sure is playing king maker....

I never watch the news programs or listen to the pundits, I prefer to read the news. The last two days I've had to watch and listen to CNN because of someone visiting me. I am shocked how they are promoting Obama. Today is all Obama and Obama's grandmother in Kenya. Hardly a mention of Edwards or Richardson and if they mention Hillary it is to show she is behind. I do not believe the media ever liked Hillary and are thrilled to be part of bringing her down. Why they don't give Edwards any time is obvious with his issues against the corporations. The unfairness of it all should be changed but it never will. Again, the media will be picking our next president.

[Uncle Joe]

15. I agree sort of, I believe the corporate media is working against Edwards.

I believe they realize he connected with the people on an emotional level during the New Hampshire debate, when he spoke of this being personal, because of his parents or grandparents working in the mill. That having the courage to fight the out sized power of corrupt corporations' stranglehold on our dysfunctional government couldn't be done as an academic or philosophical exercise. He went on to say, that's why he wouldn't accept pac money and he wouldn't have any corporate or foreign government lobbyists in his administration. I believe that was his finest moment during the debate and I also believe the media for certain and possibly Hillary Clinton realized that was his finest moment as well.

Afterwords, all three networks, ABC, CBS, and NBC simultaneously synchronized their coverage of Hillary Clinton showing emotion and using the word personal as well, at the very beginning of their evening newscasts. I kept surfing between the networks and nary missed a word, I thought for an instant they had merged as one network ACNBCS or something to that effect. Then PBS's News Hour with Jim Lehrer began their show with the same coverage.

Where I differ with your opinion is that I believe they did it to prop Hillary's faltering campaign up and attempt to neutralize Edward's momentum after that debate.

The way I see it, the corporate media view the American People, not so much as citizens or even clients but as customers or consumers to be swayed by their marketing. The corporations that Edwards proclaims to take on,are their clients and this is why they're ignoring him or propping Clinton up.

[weeve]

16. Completely TRUE !

And the absolute worst ( and most obvious ) offender here is ABC - particularly their Nightline, and Terry Moran. Did anyone catch their show Monday night ? Jawdroppingly obvious/disgusting.

[mogster]

17. K&R

Its ridiculous to watch this bias go down. Its like they all slap each other on the back in the end of the day, the media people, before the meeting on how to trash Dems for the next day.

Its fast becoming like the Soviet society, where nobody believed in what the media said.

[Blarch]

21. Oh please.

"First they said Senator Clinton is inevitable... and there are valid reasons that they like her... the corporations that is.

Well that didn't work... so now they are playing the same shit with Obama"


And why didn't that work ? ..because then people made up their own mind. Holy shit is this getting old. You admit in your own thread that the people aren't listening to the media....in the next breath you claim the media is the end all.

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. So you are telling me that marketing has no effect?

[Blarch]

23. I can't say that.

What I see is the media playing follow the leader, when the people change their minds and there is a new leader, the media all line up to suck his/her cock/pussy

They are whores, not pimps.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. Sad, but they are playing BOTH roles