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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:42 AM
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ALWAYS in the back of my mind:
KKKRove DID NOT leave the White House to "spend more time with his family."

I worry about how he's plotting to steal THIS election. What about you? Is KKKRove in your thoughts this election cycle?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:44 AM
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1. i liked it better when he was in the spotlight....he's plotting, you can bet
junior didn't accept his resignation cause things were getting easier for the white house....he's stealing as we type
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:44 AM
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2. No. That freak is history. n/t
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:49 AM
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3. I think not.
KKKRove is not out of the picture. That's just what he wants you to think. Trust me. He's working behind closed doors to steal as may votes as he can.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:02 PM
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10. wish i shared your optimism
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:03 PM
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12. Nope. Karen also went to "her family" to prepare the 2004 steal
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:50 AM
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4. very much so
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 11:51 AM by madokie
he has a vested interest in this election going the right way for the neocons because he has broken so many rules and laws as to be facing many lifetimes of cross bar hotel time so for that reason alone I see him as more dangerous now than ever. I find it hard to believe some reporter has camped on on his door step so as to keep an eye on him and in an honest world there would be but since this is bushworld there isn't. so say cause he is one evil SOB and it goes to the core I might add too.
Yes I am worried about him, we already know he will commit treason to further his/their cause don't we.

ADD: I'm going to vote this up 'cause I think it is something that needs to be talked about and ideas batted around on,
peace
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:53 AM
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5. This election is going to be the nastiest ever
No matter which candidate you support, you'd better be ready for the shitstorm that's gonna hit later this year, because Rove is locked 'n' loaded, ready to fire.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:55 AM
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6. Do they ever really just go away?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:02 PM
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11. Nope. They are rats and roaches. n/t
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:56 AM
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7. I WILL TRUST ROVE
WHEN HE IS IN PRISON
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Rock_Garden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:58 AM
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8. Just because the snake crawled into the grass, doesn't mean his venom is gone.
K&R. I've been thinking about Rove, lately, too, and wondering. I can't think like Rove, to guess what he might be doing. The fact that he has been so utterly silent disturbs me the most. Maybe he thinks he needs to cover his butt for past sins by staying under the radar, but I doubt that's his entire motivation.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:00 PM
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9. Whe he came up with "democrats started the war" - I thought: this takes care of
most candidates who sponsored/voted for IWR. One of the reasons I am happy it's Obama.
Of course, the vote stealing concerns remain, especially as the 2 Johns made sure most people are unaware of the last theft
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:08 PM
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13. I have no idea, but I'm sure there is strategy going on. These people are patient.
The neo-conservative cabal and their Chicago School associates have been running the show since the 1970s. Since the fall of communism their movement did nothing but gather steam, even when Clinton was in the White House. If we don't have a candidate who forcefully exposes them and ejects them from public life they will continue their takeover be it in 2008, 2012, 2016, or 2020.

Their tactics are shock, divide, muddy the debate, steal.

Remember it is Rove who started to drive the wedge between the Black community and the gay community via funding urban anti-gay publications. They're looking for just an itty bit of the African-American vote to push them over the edge. They want to move the black votes they can't steal or drown (a la Katrina) to the right.

My guess is that they will smear the eventual nominee, cause a disaster to distract, or attempt to buy the nominee. They may allow the nominee to put forth some reforms so long as he/she does not fight them on the holy grail issues: corporatism and war-profiteering. To a certain degree they will play it by ear, I think.

For example, if the candidate is Huckabee. They will probably try to use gays as a wedge again, and proclaim that the culture war is "heating up to a critical point" indicating that there is just too committed of an anti-gay movement for Democrats to EVER defeat a Republican unless they adopt a "more moderate" platform.

If the candidate is McCain they might use a war-related disaster (or create one) and suddenly America won't be "ready for change." Suddenly America will want a "strong daddy-figure."

Or they might let a Democrat win and then destroy him/her while he or she is in office.

There are so many ways they could play it. And they will play it. They know that we're the party of naive idealism or daddy-please-love-me acquiescence. You don't defeat the school bully with reason and gestures of friendship. You defeat the bully by roundly beating his ass.



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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:11 PM
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14. Rove has been disarmed.
The elctions have to be close to steal, and I don't see that happening.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:14 PM
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15. Dangerously optimistic there I'm thinkin'...
Anything can happen and it usually does. Oh wait isn't that the Mickey Mouse Club song? Sorry Walt.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:15 PM
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16. That was the celebration turnout was a quarter mill for small Iowa usually80000...
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 12:22 PM by cooolandrew
...People get it that turnout has to be so high there is no chance in hell of theft.Thank goodness for that.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:26 PM
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19. Turnout is GOOD when the repuke SOS puts enough voting machines in the Democratic districts like he
does in repuke Districts or doesn't purge voters from the rolls (caging) or doesn't send out flyers telling people to vote on the WRONG day or doesn't send them to the wrong polling place or have them print out ballots at home on their home computer and then throw DEMOCRATIC cards in the garbage because they were printed on paper and not the required card stock they neglected to tell you it must be printed on or don't register people and then throw away the Democratic registration cards ONLY and keep the repuke cards.

Yes, turnout IS very important, but they have so many other ways they have stolen votes....and will continue to use to steal votes.
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brazos121200 Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:17 PM
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17. Rove and vote caging etc. work to make the election close with
their dirty tricks and then the courts take over to assure that the election is stolen. Remember when Limbaugh started referring to judge Sauls as "Sandy Sauls" after the 2000 election? That's when I knew the fix was in and we would have Bush as president.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:18 PM
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18. "the greatest trick the devil ever pulled
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 12:19 PM by shadowknows69
Was making the world think he didn't exist."
-Verbal/Keyser
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