Ground Zero: 6 years and counting and still a big fucking hole in the ground!

[Bonobo]

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/groundzero/

Giulini, Clinton, Bloomberg... All these NY politicians and we can't even get started rebuilding. A glorious chain link fence to mark where it happened!?

Is this what the "greatest country in the world" does?

Shame, shame, shameful.

P.S. I wanted to talk about something besides politics this morning for a change...

[demnan]

1. Sure makes that General

who insisted on repairing the Pentagon in record time look good. Not only was it repaired but it has a 9/11 memorial bus terminal plus a new Air Force monument nearby.

But then who doesn't have money and manpower if not the Pentagon.

[SpiralHawk]

2. "What did you expect with republicons in charge?" - Commander AWOL

"I mean, I still haven't finished my book. P.S. I, and my republicon cronies, MIHOP. Smirk, smirk, smirk."

- Commander AWOL
(for those who have never considered the MIHOP facts:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project )

[bagrman]

9. Whats MIHOP?

[bdamomma]

12. made it happen on purpose.

[SpiralHawk]

13. The republicons are SO guilty of treason, that an acronym, MIHOP, was necessary

Commander AWOL Bush and his Republicon cronies committed mass treason and mass murder against the USA on 9/11.

No doubt about it.

MIHOP - Made It Happen On Purpose

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

[bagrman]

27. I C

[Recursion]

16. Conspiracy and pancakes...

There's a Topic Forum That Shall Not Be Named that talks about it a lot.

[KharmaTrain]

3. Not Quite A Hole Anymore

When I was there in April '06, yes it was a hole. I came back last August and the sounds of construction were everywhere. You can't really look in on the site anymore and soon it'll be back to the urban sprawl that it was prior to 9-11-01. Building 7 has been rebuilt and I suspect the entire site, including the Freedom Tower, will start to dominate the lower Manhattan skyline a year from now. Within a couple years, people will walk past the Hudson PATH station and not even remember what happened right over their heads.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

4. Is everyone agreed on what's being built there?

Or are we just paving it and making it a park?

But, as far as government sloth in rebuilding, how's things in New Orleans? Is that still another big fucking hole in the ground? And, is there any clear idea of what/why/where to rebuild?

Pentagon damage wasn't as severe. The whole building didn't collapse.

[racaulk]

5. Not to mention that OBL is *still* a free man.

If he's still alive, that is...

[Philosoraptor]

6. Its the 'We'll git him, dead or alive' memorial reminder.

[Tyler Durden]

7. Has anyone mentioned recently, that Clinton not only CAUGHT the first WTC bomber....

But he's in JAIL?

Duh.

[NoBorders]

8. I 've regularly been staying at a hotel overlooking The Hole

For work I've going to Manhattan occasionally and staying at the Omni Hilton, which is right next to the WTC site, and I'm usually on about the 40th floor or so, looking straight into the site.

I see lots of activity, well into the night in fact, but I never see anything change. It's weird.

[MilesColtrane]

10. There's a lot of work to be done underground.

Lord Cheney's retirement bunker goes down a long way.

Straight down to where he came from.

[bdamomma]

11. just like the Gulf States, oh sure, they care about the American people.

:sarcasm:

[sentelle]

14. I usually associate "The Pit" with what is wrong with America

A lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing. That can be said of "The Pit" the many acre site that once housed the World Trade Center Complex, 4 Train Stations, a Mini-Mall, and an outdoor complex too cold to spend time in during winter.

A lot of words about what to do with the site, but still nothing.

A lot of words about what to do about America, but still nothing.

The problem, is that people foolishly believe that words are actions. And that you can cover Actions with words.

and it leaves us poorer, Financially, Morally, Culturally, and Intellectually Poorer. yet we all look the other way, and let it happen.

Sheeple.

[Recursion]

15. Leave it that way as the George W. Bush Monument

sounds about right...

[Squatch]

17. The Pentagon was finished 9/11 2002.

[Poiuyt]

18. Am I the only one who thinks that an office building is an inappropriate memorial?

If they really want to memorialize the event, they should put in a park with some sort of monument. And yes, I know the value of real estate on Manhattan Island. But a commercial office building is disrespectful, no matter what it's called.

[tuckessee]

19. Wasting good real estate is inappropriate to the living.

If mankind turned every site of tragedy into a memorial we'd have very little land left.

If you want a 9/11 memorial, just look at the ruins of modern Iraq.

[tomreedtoon]

21. It's in New York. NOTHING grows there.

Might as well pave it over and make it a free parking lot. Who knows; maybe some New Yorkers will decide to learn how to drive and actually use it.

[Fire Walk With Me]

20. New Orleans, Iraq, Ground Zero...

It's far more important to cash in financially and politically than to actually DO something about the initial problem.

By New Orleans, I mean the damage they've done to FEMA, a backhanded attempt at increasing their reconstruction corporation's opportunities, a sort of forced privatization. Much less the damage done to the city's culture and poor. And we can see how effective all that money has been in actually rebuilding Iraq after the utterly unneccessary "shock and awe" bombing back to the stone age... Create the need for your (no-bid) business and then ride to the rescue! A closed system, as Doonesbury stated.

I'm sorry, but these people like destruction. They get off on it. And then profit wildly.

[Javaman]

22. It's a metaphor for Iraq. A giant money pit. nt

[DS1]

23. Solid foundations take time, and you often don't get visible results

as fast as you'd like.

[Bonobo]

24. Well, I'm no expert, but 6 years? Has it been properly prioritized ya think?

[DS1]

26. They didn't exactly start the next week.

[TreasonousBastard]

25. "Too many cooks"...

Larry Silverstein, the Port Authority, the City, the State, the Feds, the Fire Dept., various 9/11 survivors groups...

Everybody's gotta have a finger in the plans, and everybody's got have his own way.