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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:04 PM
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A DAILY SHOW WITH JON STEWART now on Comedy Central...
...and Jon just vowed that it shall remain A Daily Show as opposed to The Daily Show until the strike is over.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:06 PM
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1. That was beautiful and brilliant.
Jon without writers is funnier than Jay with writers any day.

NGU.


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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:11 PM
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2. "You got Sean Penn to advocate your cause! YOU must have a CAUSE!"
:rofl:

Go, Jonny, go!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:15 PM
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3. Context, I beg you.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:41 AM
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9. Jon was listing the celebrities who are backing the writers.
NGU.


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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:27 PM
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4. I'll wait til the strike is over
I like him, but apparently not enough
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:29 PM
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5. Maybe I'll catch it in repeats
when the strike is over
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:58 PM
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6. No matter how they dress it up, they're still scabs
They crossed the line.

We talk about the power of unions here, yet when push comes to shove and our favorite TV show is on the line(a TV show for cryin' out loud) we're more than willing to throw the working stiff overboard.

Wow, just wow.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:29 AM
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7. We don't know what kind of contract Stewart and Colbert have. They
may have been compelled to return.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:09 AM
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11. Sorry, but you're free to do what you want,
And Stewart/Colbert were free to hold out with the writers. What, Comedy Central would fire their two cash cows? Not bright, not bright at all. I seriously doubt that either would have been compelled if they really felt like holding out.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:28 AM
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15. There's also other's on their staff, not writers, not producers that
were doing without work. We have to consider them in this.

Individual studios are peeling off, cutting deals. I think the strike will be settled one studio at a time.


Anyway, Both Stewart and Colbert gave good support for the strikers. Having someone on TV speaking for the strikers is not a bad thing.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:40 AM
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8. Wrong. Stewart turned his half-hour into a forum for the WGA.
It was television tae-kwando as he turned the network's own greed back on them.

NGU.


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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:15 AM
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12. I've no doubt that he did so, and it worked now, didn't it
Placated the conscience of both himself and his viewers, made them and you feel a little bit better for crossing the line. But gee, is he going to keep that schtick up? Of course not, it would grow old and boring and unfunny. So the show will go on, with less and less thought paid to the writers, and eventually other writers will be hired and the WGA will continue to walk the line, only it will be an unemployment line.

Soothe your soul all you want, but the fact of the matter is that both Stewart and Colbert crossed the line, supported the studios instead of the working man, and viewers are now providing revenue to those very same studios. Congratulations, you're a scab too.

All over a fucking TV show, geez people. It isn't like this is one of the necessities of live, no, it is a TV show, pabulum for the masses. Sad how low we've sunk. No wonder the unions are dying.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:23 AM
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13. I suppose all those striking writers will help support the other staffers...
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 07:26 AM by Fighting Irish
...who aren't fortunate to have union backing or even a remote chance at making royalties?

Yeah, thought so.

These shows have large staffs of people who rely on being in production to actually have a job. They certainly didn't ask for this. They're working people, and they deserve to feed their families.

P.S. - Stewart has said that he, Colbert and Comedy Central tried to negotiate a deal similar to Letterman's. They were turned down by the guild, since CC is owned by Viacom, one of the AMPTP studios at the top of the guild's shit list.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:32 AM
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14. So it becomes a case of who do we throw to the sharks? No, I don't think so.
But hey, way to pick up on a divisive tactic used by management. Yes, there are staffers out there who would temporarily lose their job, but first, many of these folks can fine other work in their field for the short term. Second, do you really think that throwing the writers overboard is going to encourage loyalty, solidarity and advance workers' rights among the other writers? Doubtful. And frankly I imagine if you polled these other staff people, I would imagine that they would rather live on a thin income for awhile and help out their fellow workers than give in to studios, after all, they too have their own contract worries, may even be up for contract negotiations soon themselves.

Strikes are ugly, and possibly long drawn out affairs for everybody. Do we abandon them because of this fact? If that's the way you feel, no wonder labor is getting less powerful in this country everyday.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:33 AM
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16. "way to pick up on a divisive tactic..."
As opposed to the unifying tactic of a weeks-long strike. :shrug:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:41 AM
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10. I missed it, will have to wait 15 mins and catch the repeat here.
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