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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:06 PM
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Sorry dumb question. How did Romney become governor of a liberal state?
I thought Massachusetts was one of the most liberal states in the country.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:07 PM
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1. on behalf of Massholes everywhere...


oops.

(not that I voted for that bum!)
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:14 PM
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13. As an ex Masshole
I have to guess that he's really good at lying.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:08 PM
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2. Outspent opponent during the 2002 republican/terrorism love fest.
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 03:10 PM by The_Casual_Observer
Calculated as his big chance for for a run as President in 2008.
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:08 PM
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3. He lied
he claimed he was more liberal than Teddy Kennedy. Now he is more conservative than Tom Delay
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:38 AM
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30. Bingo
You beat me to it. That is why they call him a flip-flopper. He lied in his Senate bid against Kennedy, and he lied when campaigning for Governor. Then he says that he changed his mind. Yeah, right.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:52 AM
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33. Yep. He isn't "Mittens" he's an empty wind sock (n/t)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:08 PM
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4. There's suckers everywhere
I know a guy who voted for him, just because his rightwing girlfriend told him to. I wanted to punch him in the face. He moved out. Fucker.
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peacetheonlyway Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:09 PM
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5. ELECTION FRAUD
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 03:14 PM by peacetheonlyway
it was the first fully electronic voting election and VOILA instant Republican.
Roy Barnes was running for Governor against a dumbass Sonny Perdue..

shortly after the machines were installed, VOILA, instant Republican governor sonny perdue..

it's really so simple most americans can't grok it.. Alabama, Georgia, Mass. the republicans have chosen key pivot point states and using fraud gotten their candidates elected..

often like in Washington state the liberal and democratic voters voted in such force, even their rigging could not cover up the massive landslides like in Gregoire's race..

it goes on and on but nobody listens...

even the NY times thinks Optiscans are ok??.....
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:11 PM
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10. Then I want a recount of the Schwarzenegger elections.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:12 PM
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11. There you go. We should suspect election fraud with all Republican victories.
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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:44 PM
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21. OK, a few things....
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 03:50 PM by Flatulo
First, Massachusetts has an overwhelmingly dem legislature. I'm talking like 90% here.

Second, we have what is considered to be a very corrupt and incompetent state government. Ever hear of the Big Dig? It's the most expensive public works project in US history, and ran over budget by 14 billion dollars. It leaks like a sieve and chunks of the tunnels occasionaly detach and crush to death the random motorist who happens to be passing by at the wrong second.

Finally, there was absolutely never any allegations of election fraud during the last campaign. The dems ran a very weak sec of state.

Massachusetts has had Republican governors since 1990, when we elected Bill Weld, a blue-blood, lazy guy who was pretty liberal on social issues.

Please get your facts more in order before you pile on with cries of election fraud. It weakens and cheapens the case when there is in fact evidence of fraud.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:06 AM
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28. what are you talking about?
The 2002 Massachusetts gubernatorial election was not fully electronic. I put an X next to Shannon O'Brien and gave my ballot to a little old lady who put it in a box and turned a crank until there was a satisfying "ding." Nothing electronic about it.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:41 AM
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31. What about the GOP governors elected in 1990, 1994, and 1998 before electronic voting?
:shrug:
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:10 PM
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6. For the same reason that so many PA politicos' names
start with "S":

Shapp
Schweiker
Scott
Santorum
Scranton
Street

Who TF knows?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:17 PM
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16. That's the result of inbreeding.
Us Pennsylvanians tend to slur or words. Ssseversthing sttahts swhif an sesss.
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:36 AM
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29. fuck Street.
Glad he's out today.

I'm an asshole and I approve this message.
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Fading Captain Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:10 PM
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7. If Romney finds a way to energize Christians
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 03:10 PM by Echos Myron
He's going to be the toughest guy to beat.
He can win in the Northeast and take a blue state like Michigan, where he has ties and where Gov. Granholm is being blamed for a lot of the state's problems.

Seriously, though, how much hair dye does that guy use? He looks a bit like Dick Clark during the Rocking the New Year show.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:10 PM
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8. Bush Madness
everybody had it back then
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:10 PM
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9. I'm not sure, but apparently, he's flip-flopped on issues
Mitt Romney Wouldn't Win His Home State:

It appears former Republican Governor Mitt Romney wouldn’t win his home state in the general election, a new poll shows:

Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney would be unable to carry the Bay State in the 2008 United States presidential election, according to a poll by Rasmussen Reports. At least 54 per cent of respondents would vote for either of three Democratic Party members in head-to-head contests against the Republican politician.


Then again, it must be hard for Massachusetts voters to support him considering his issue positions as a presidential candidate are completely different than those he held as governor.


http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/09/mitt_romney_wou.php
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:13 PM
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12. He LIED ... just as he's doing now!!!!
:grr:

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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:45 PM
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22. Media propaganda, election fraud, tons of cash... (just a guess)
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:48 PM
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24. I seriously doubt election fraud...we don't have e-voting here...
I think he played to the rich and the "need for balance" in a very liberal state.

We have an almost totally blue legislature. Some here feel we need to balance that out.

He didn't get a lot of things done because our legislature overturned a lot his veto's!

That and who he was running against.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:15 PM
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14. By lying his ass off.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:16 PM
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15. rich people
Romney didn't say much about social issues during his campaign. He pushed the, "Let's run the state like it's a business" angle, which resonated with rich people in the outer Boston suburbs. Couple that with a less-than-inspiring Democratic nominee, and he got his 50%.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:18 PM
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17. See P.T. Barnum for explanation. A reliable source of info on American Politics.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:37 PM
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18. He lied really well, and his opponent ran a lousy campaign
And no, I never voted for him.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:40 PM
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19. He used the time honored technique of cherrypicking a very weak field/race.
See Arnold etc.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:42 PM
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20. basically until the last election Dems haven't put up a strong candidate for Gov of MA
in a long time (since Dukakis), and so the state had GOP governors for a while. Also, because Mitt spent a lot and when running there ran as a liberal republican.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:47 PM
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23. Shannon P. O'Brien (State Treasurer) Was the Democrat...
... and a very savvy public servant. But she had some very unfavorable press items, largely sparked by the angry financial services companies in Boston (many of whom she had the audacity to actually force to compete for work that had been secure under her GOP predecessor, Joe Malone).

Her senior staffers were incredibly bright.

- Dave
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:52 PM
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26. I liked Shannon very much and wish she had been elected n/t
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:51 PM
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25. One thing we seem to like up here is balance
We have, and have had for quite some time, a Democratic dominated state legislature that we know will get the job done, even if the Governor is a red-assed monkey. We have enough votes to override any veto they could throw at us, so we feel ok with a repuke Governor more often than not. It gives the repukes a feeling of at least sitting at the table, even if we never pass the main course their way at all.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:59 PM
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27. Hadn't he just "rescued" the Olympics when he ran?
I wonder if some thought if he can "rescue" the Olympics he can fix the "big dig" and other problems.

He's a bidness man after all.

(People I know who worked with him on the Olympics do not give him as much credit as he gives himself and say he is extremely driven. I think its the nutty kind of drive like Baby Bush: I wanna do it because my dad was defeated, I need to best him and win, or win a 2nd term. I've actually met people like that. Most of them get their heads kicked in a few times and fade to obscurity but some, if they have enough money and belong to a bankrupt party, get elected president. I also think they attract a bunch of sycophants because of their name. If some of those sycophants are as ruthless as Rove it is a tailor made disaster in the making.)
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:49 AM
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32. not for the last 20 yrs or so, Weld, Celluci, Swift, Romney, followed Dukakis and Kerry


They sell themselves on fiscal responsibility while adopting a few key Democratic positions.
Massachusetts loves big government, but they don't always want to pay for it.
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