Wake up and smell the coffee, Obama is no underdog anymore

[ngant17]

I have to admit I've been just as taken-aback as anyone wrt Obama's recent 'surge'. I had previously resigned myself to voting on a Hillary ticket (still am disgusted with her IWR vote), and Edwards was will never be on my agenda, I've had bad experience with people from NC, they were unrepentant rednecks and virulently anti-union, lost a job from an NC-based company because of my union-organizing, and I guess I'm holding that grudge against Edwards because of it.

But I'm on the Obama bandwagon for the duration. Got the avatar to prove it.

Ignore him and marginalize him, it won't matter, Obama won't go away for me. What a mind-blower for me, a mixed-race President, over those silly NC yahoos too!

BTW lots of brillant people in history have dominant African genes, the great Russian writer and poet Alexander Pushkin comes to mind. I guess we all have a little African DNA in us after all.

[karlrschneider]

1. Problem is he doesn't have a snowball's chance of winning the GE.

even if he were to get the nom.

[babylonsister]

3. Why doesn't he? Oh, let me guess, 'cause he's black. Old, tired

meme. So the racists won't vote for him; there are plenty of people who would. Especially compared to the rethug candidates. Did you notice the turnout in Iowa, Dems vs. Reps? Very revealing.

[Gman]

4. Charisma can go a very long way

and could conceivably carry him through the GE. But the bigger problem of all is what is there about Obama we don't know? Nobody is this clean. The RW machine is completely keeping their powder dry. They've gone after Hillary aided by the far left to take her out because they know she's one person they could not beat in the GE.

My question is where and when will Obama fatally screw up what he has going for him right now? I'll be shocked and be the first to admit I was wrong, but screwing up is Obama's history in this campaign so far. He's getting more support because of who he isn't than because of who he is.

[aquart]

7. You're completely wrong.

He brings independents and new voters. We need 13 million independents and the Republicans need THIRTY MILLION. In Iowa, the turnout was 2 to 1 for the Democrats. Republicans are having the devil's own time with just getting people to show up.

To win, we do not require a single Republican vote. Yet Obama got some in Iowa.

Even Pat Robertson admitted that God may have whispered in his ear that the Democrats will win the presidency.

The Democratic candidate will win this election. And in the area of independent voters, Obama is the most golden right now.

Electability is not an issue. Counting the votes is.

[Arugula Latte]

11. You are wrong, wrong, wrong.

Even though I support Edwards as my first choice, even I can see that Obama has the most cross-over appeal. Look at the numbers out of Iowa if you don't believe me.

HILLARY is the drag on our ticket. She is the only thing that will motivate the other side to come out in droves to vote against her.

[Gman]

2. Obama has everything going for him, except just one thing

will he shoot himself in the foot? That's the $64,000 question now.

[Democrats_win]

5. Now, Americans are imagining Obama as President Obama.

Are you comfortable with that? My first thoughts were experience. But he's no Jimmy Carter who had no experience in Washington. On the other hand, he hasn't been a governor. I guess we won't get both.

So far he's bringing out the best in Americans. That's a good start.

[aquart]

8. I haven't noticed the best here at DU.

Nasty, vicious, and spiteful. THAT I've noticed. It does not auger well for "change."

[MADem]

6. Ignore him and marginalize him? He's the darling of the media--impossible to ignore.

My tee vee is telling me that he's the uncrowned King, that Clinton is DOA, and who the fuck is Edwards....?

They aren't marginalizing him, they're putting him front and center! He's getting the biggest chunk of the 24 hour news cycle.

[ngant17]

9. The 'ignoring and marginalizing'

The 'ignoring and marginalizing' was directed to the DU crowd here, many of them never waste an opportunity to push Hillary or Edwards ad nauseum in practically every message thread in which they have an opportunity.

I don't watch much TV/radio/corporate mass media so I don't have much idea of how they're playing the Obama phenonemon right now.

If the vast majority of African-American voters and a sizeable chunk of the Latino votes go for Obama, and also a good share of the women defect from the Hillary campaign, what difference does it make if a few million aging male 'crackers' like me want to vote for someone else? And just who will Generation X go for? Besides, this cracker's for Obama all the way.

An Obama is the very least we should deserve, after we've had a fraudulent _Bush regime occupying the White House for almost 8 years now.

[MADem]

10. I can't really buy that, either. DU is telling me Obama is the uncrowned King,

they're dancing rather "bitchily" on Clinton's grave, and they're angry as hell that the media isn't covering Edwards.

No one is saying shit about Bill Richardson, and a few people are still whining about Kucinich.

[Deja Q]

12. Making this a race issue, are we?

In which case, politics is so slimy, we may as well let this dude run:



Here's his running mate:

[Breeze54]

13. So North Carolina is ALL Rednecks and so is Edwards?

:wtf:

:silly:

[ngant17]

14. No, I'm sure NC has a lot of progressives

like you find in SW Virgina and the New River Valley area where my relatives live nearby. Unfortunately Edwards is a total unknown for me so I don't automatically trust him. And I am also still hurting for the ill-treatment I received from a NC-based company.

Georgia has a lot of rednecks, KKK'ers and racists like NC but I've always admired Jimmy Carter because he has ALWAYS projected a pacifist image and he was not ever a war-monger like Edwards was/is/will be as POTUS. First impressions and image are everything. Edwards blew it with the IWR more than anything else for me.

[Breeze54]

15. I was really angry at him too....

for a long time and I told him so on You Tube but he has apologized twice since then and he has
tried to make amends and I believe him. It's more then HRC did. It took 18 months to even get her
to acknowledge that she did vote for the IWR! And she still hasn't apologized but only said she
regretted what * did with it.

Read this: John Edwards and the Politics of Poverty
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0415-30.htm