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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:24 PM Original message |
A word about Hilliary. I am not a supporter BUT.... |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. Totally agree. eom |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. That's how it's always been for women when they fight back... |
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shoopnyc (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
3. Child, I'm so there... |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
4. Well the MSM called Dean "angry", "out of control" |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. I said she was scary. I would say that about any of the men if they started yelling and acting |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. excuse me, but Edwards was just as emotional as Clinton but |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
46. I noticed that too...he was "passionate" she was "bitchy" |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
6. Whom are the attacks coming from? nt |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
7. hit alert. I'm not a fan or foe of hers but i don't call her or any other dems names. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. She's actually doing quite well- |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
9. I have to agree with that...I wouldn't want to be in her position.. |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. I'm not supporting her for president but I agree... |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. My wife said the same sort of thing. |
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DawgHouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
12. I agree with you 100 percent! |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
13. Yup.... The whole campaign has been an eye-opener from that point of view. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
14. It's really discouraging to see a discussion pro and con of her positions/voting records and then |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
15. I completely agree with you. |
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SeattleGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
16. I agree, debbie |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
17. AS a woman, I'm really sick of people excusing Hillary's bad acting as sexist. |
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never_get_over_it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:11 PM Original message |
Oh PLEASE |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
47. whatever. "Eyes bulging" "voice and manner over the top" |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
94. I've seen the video, and, frankly, I have no idea what your're talking about. |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. I'm really a bit weirded about by the whole thing. |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
19. Thanks for posting this. You are correct. |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
20. Predicted this decades ago (1972) -- a black man would be president before a woman of any color. |
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never_get_over_it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Do you know when I realized exactly what you are saying was true |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. My MIL hails the mighty penis too. We had our Christmas today and as we were leaving |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #34 |
58. Gracious post, Hoof Hearted. (Except for your challenging mother-in-law.) |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
57. Quoting now, "Hopefully both racism and sexism will die out eventually....." |
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never_get_over_it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #57 |
82. Ok so I think you've proved my point lol |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #82 |
92. Thanks for your research, Never... |
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Qanisqineq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. I've been saying that for a long time |
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Cass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #20 |
50. "...a black man would be president before a woman of any color. " |
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never_get_over_it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
21. As Cenk would say on the young turks |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
22. AGREED!!! She was fine. |
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DesertRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
23. I completely agree. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
24. I agree. But I will say that I am tired of her "35 years of experience" |
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SaveOurDemocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
26. I agree. It's very disheartening to see that over and over. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
27. Yep... |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
71. This sexism thing is really wearing thin |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #71 |
96. Fair enough... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
28. Enough already. She's not viewed by most of her detractors here as a "woman" |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Right. You know that there are never ANY sexist remarks made here, so we gals should just |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. I'm sure there were... |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #28 |
48. then talk about her record rather than the fact that she is shrill or a bitch |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. Are you kidding? |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:30 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Wow, aren't you the manly man, coming here and telling us women to "cut out the generalizations" |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #64 |
90. You the Internet persona... |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. LOL, well, your persona is much more attractive when not barking demands to immediately cease a |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #28 |
72. Thank you |
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frogmarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
30. I'm for Edwards, but I agree wholeheartedly with the OP. nt |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
31. A few words about having thicker skins: |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
93. Hey, Swamp Rat! Agreed: "We all need to grow some." |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
33. Another non-suporter disgusted by the freperish attacks. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
35. One thing that really surprised me |
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Cass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #35 |
44. I did not see that. Thank you for pointing this out. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
36. Watching it the first time, I thought |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
37. Yep. Been losing respect for a lot of people lately |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
38. yup. i thought she did very well on the debate today as did edwards. |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
40. tired of the attacks too |
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Cass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
41. Thank you for this post. |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
42. Here we go. Play the Gender card, |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #42 |
49. And yours is an example of the problem: deny there is an issue |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:28 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Really? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #42 |
56. When you start saying a man sounds "like a witch" you'll be believable. |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:10 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Good god, are you stupid? Or does it just make you feel good to call someone a sexist? |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:34 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Well, you are sure are the tough guy, aren't you? You told us ladies a thing or two. |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 11:29 AM Original message |
You're fixated on one's sex |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
75. Remember.. |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #65 |
69. You're fixated on one's sex |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #60 |
66. "Witches, for most Americans, are women." Exactly. There is no male counterpart as an insult. |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Dickhead. Prick. Asshole. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. My you've certainly elevated the dialog. And, while "witch" is perfectly acceptable in most |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #74 |
85. Point is, don't go around accusing someone of being sexist |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Well, you co-opted my argument to make your specious point. Imitation being the sincerest form of |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
81. They don't denote a masculine sound. The fact is, there are feminine traits that |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. Please. All you're doing is making the stereotype stronger. |
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Canadiana (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #42 |
67. Totally agree. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
43. I agree... |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
45. it is true. People, even "progressives" are not ready for a woman |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
51. I seriously think much of the "issues" people here have with Hillary is pure sexism |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
52. I agree. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
53. Agreed. NT |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
55. Probably more difficult for a woman than a black to win, ... and |
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Mr_Monday (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:13 AM Response to Original message |
61. You just listed all the reasons HRC why cannot win. nt |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
62. I don't watch TV anymore, so I don't have the slightest idea if she's |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 03:21 AM Response to Original message |
63. Agree Debbie. |
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BooScout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
68. I agree....have seen it for years in Corporate America... |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
73. I just did a search and your post is the only one where the word |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. What is your point? Are you denying that it is happening? |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
77. The last thing I would complain about Hillary is what sex she is! Hillary |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
78. perhaps its just her... Another female candidate speaking like John or |
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hiphopnation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
79. a disturbing trend, if unsurprising |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. I really like your summation, hhn23. There are legitimate reasons to criticize her as with all |
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hiphopnation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. the OPs assessment is right on |
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donkeyotay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
84. I agree, debbierlus. I don't support her, but I thought she did well. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
87. This has been making me angry also.. |
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GenDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
88. In complete agreement. NT |
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