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Bombero1956 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:32 PM
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father leaves kids in freezing truck while he shops in Walmart
http://www.wsmv.com/news/14978488/detail.html

stupid asshat should know the cameras aren't there for security purposes, they're to keep union people out.
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:38 PM
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1. He thinks security cameras will keep his kids warm..???? dumbbell
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Bombero1956 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:41 PM
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2. exactly
he didn't think about the kids freezing, just that they'd be there when he got back. Jeezz!!
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:43 PM
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3. yeah, but i bet he was really happy with all the cheap shit he got from china. n/t
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 02:43 PM by orleans
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:43 PM
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4. I leave my little girl in the car when it is cold when I shop...
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 02:45 PM by hlthe2b
No worries... Of course she has four furry legs and a thick beautiful furry coat the envy of all who see her, loves snow more than life itself and has no trouble burying herself in the plush blanket and down bedding I put out for her across the backseat to stay very snoozy warm. :)

This guy is an idiot and not only because he leaves the kids in the car...

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:00 PM
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10. Good one! Hope you don't live in Alamosa or the San Luis Valley
in Southern Colorado.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:03 PM
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13. Denver....but when I ski she comes along for the day
But always inside with me on my down comforter at night! I do love my sweet cuddly foot warmer!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:45 PM
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5. 5 and 6 years old, 27 degrees. Car was probably already warm from being driven there.
BFD!

I played outside at temperatures lower than that. I doubt these kids were in danger of death.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:10 PM
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20. Leaving 5 & 6yo kids alone in a parking lot? That's just some piss-poor parenting.
nm
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:47 PM
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6. As much of a dumshit as this guy is
I somehow do not see his crime to be as serious as leaving a baby locked in a car with the windows rolled up in 100 degree weather. How long was the idiot going to be in wally world? Half hour? An hour? Long enough to buy his beer and pork rinds. Nobody is going to freeze to death or even become hypothermic in 27 degree temperatures in such a brief time. The truck cab would stay warm that long after the engine was shut off.

Anyway these kids were old enough that they could have left the vehicle by themselves if they got too cold.

Okay, Cleetus ain't father of the year but this really doesn't sound like child abuse to me.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:49 PM
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7. yup. By the time I was 6 my mom and dad would ask if I even wanted to come in, or if I wanted to...
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 02:52 PM by JVS
wait in the car. Never would I have thought that choosing to stay in the car was choosing abuse.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:52 PM
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8. To me, it is the fact he leaves them in a car alone that is the issue
Temperature not withstanding.... They are too young to be left outside by themselves if you ask me in this day and age... Too many nuts and pedophiles around...
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:55 PM
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9. Did nuts and pedophiles suddenly crop up over the last 20 years, or just the hysteria about them.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:00 PM
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11. If you are asking if they have increased--who knows...?
Clearly, we do hear about these incidents now, when they certainly must have occurred at some level decades ago... Nonetheless, I would not take the chance now in most areas of the country.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:13 PM
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16. Same with me--seems like I spent YEARS of my childhood waiting
in cars, hot AND cold. BFD.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:50 PM
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14. ROFLMAO--Your profile says you're from CA...
but, you talk like you live here in the south. You do know southern culture, well:

"Long enough to buy his beer and pork rinds?" "Cleetus ain't father of the year, but...."

Being from the South, I have to say that's funny as hell. (And, pretty damned accurate!)
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:00 PM
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15. Native Californian spent childhood in Tennessee
Lived with my grandparents while both parents served in WWII and a few years after the war. Moved back to CA in 53 at age 12.

This dude could be one of my cousins.


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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:47 PM
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21. I grew up in Tennessee...
I could be one of your cousins! :rofl:
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:07 PM
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19. I agree - the kids should have been supervised, but they weren't going to freeze
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 05:08 PM by gollygee
27 in a car with sun coming in the windows and two little bodies radiating heat. The car won't get below freezing. Plus, the truck would have been warm on the way over to Wal-Mart and if he was going to be in and out in a short period of time, it would retain it's heat for a while. And yeah, they would have been able to get out in the incredibly unlikely circumstance that it would have gotten that cold.

But the kids should have been supervised. It isn't like a convenience store where you can see the truck out the window - that would be less troubling. The police and article are focusing on the wrong issue. Stupid but not child abuse.

This was normal in the 70s. My mom and dad left us outside in the car all the time - just not when it was really hot.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:02 PM
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12. How long was he in for?
Because if he was just running in for a minute, I'm not going to get particularly upset.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:44 PM
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17. ~everything~ is child abuse according to some people...
My sister and I did our share of waiting in the car for our folks to finish their errands. As long as we were not endangered -- and we certainly weren't -- it was nobody's business but our parents'.

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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:46 PM
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18. That is nothing compared to this.
APOPKA, Fla. -- A Central Florida man is accused of pouring hot cooking oil on a 17-month-old and using a hair dryer to burn his skin off because the toddler apparently would not stop crying and whining.

http://www.local6.com/news/14975629/detail.html
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