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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:15 AM
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56,000 young people caucused last night: 46,000 of them for dems
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 07:15 AM by cali
most of them for Barack. This is a revolution. Three times as many young people caucused this year as 4 years ago.

Barack has young people engaged and voting. I believed it would happen last night, and when I posted about it, I was scoffed at. I believe two old paradigms are dead: Whites will say in polls that they'll vote for an African American, but they really won't, and young people won't vote.

I believe young people will continue to vote in record numbers in the primaries- mostly for dems, and I believe they'll do the same thing in November.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/4/15520/78965/953/430265
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:17 AM
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1. Excelsior !
GO KIDS !
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:22 AM
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2. Oprah and Obam bussed them in from colleges in Illinois.
I don't think you will see that in NH.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:35 AM
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5. And you know that how? That's right, you don't.
And in NH, Obama is attracting lots of independents. He has an excellent chance there.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:36 AM
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6. It is well known news, google it yourself. nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:38 AM
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8. no it's not. those are nothing but guesses- and you know it. n/t
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:45 AM
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13. Well the news channels reported it last night. Even putting them up in some kind of armory for 20
bucks.

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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:41 AM
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11. call it what you like--the Oprah factor, for example, but it doesn't change the results.
good for them!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:26 AM
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3. the new meme, framing it by hope, audacity, age.
The Olde folks
vs.
The young democrats.

And pls note that Hillary firmly falls into the first group. The olde folks v. new. She represents just the olde folks, with olde ideas, olde, tired answers, olde DLC connections.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:33 AM
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4. It is indeed hopeful that so many young people have gotten involved
I was listening to an NPR interview on the Diane Rehm show yesterday at 11:00 a.m. Garrett Graff: "The First Campaign" (FSG) talked about "the Internet {and how it} has changed the way we do business and the way we conduct our politics. The first blogger permitted to officially cover a White House press briefing examine{d} how the world wide web will transform political campaigns in the new century."

"Garrett Graff, {IS} editor at large at "Washingtonian" magazine and the founding editor of the blog FishbownDC.com. He teaches journalism and new media at Georgetown University...."

He made a very passionate statement about young people getting involved and if they get out to vote, saying "it could change the course of our nation's history {paraphrase}." I was struck instantly by the profundity of the comment.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:37 AM
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7. Very Impressive
Thanksgiving weekend I was driving I-88 and kept passing cars headed to the Iowa border...most had Obama bumper stickers on them and sure appeared to be students headed back to Iowa City and Ames. My concern about Obama was that the early date of the primary...during the school break...would keep the young vote down, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

If 56,000 voted, that's nearly 50% of the total of ALL Repugnicans...it also shows a shift in the power base within the grassroots party. This was an organizational win...the game Hillary was supposed to have dominated with cash and experience. Obama, Axelrod and others did their homework and solidified their support.

Many people...including yours truly...have been sitting on the sidelines during the primaries...taking measure of how the campaigns unfold and how the early primaries pan out. While I'm not ready to hop on the Obama bandwagon, I suspect he'll find a lot more friendly faces in New Hampshire now.

Yes...this was a very big and important win.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:43 AM
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12. "experience" seems to have gotten us nowhere recently; this has been my contention all along
people are fed up
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:49 AM
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14. Exactly...
... Experience: the ability to keep fucking up by doing the same stupid shit you've been doing for years.

No thanks.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:57 AM
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16. I would add...
and keep expecting different results. she's toast, and i feel badly for her, but it's over.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:51 AM
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15. It's A Potent Message
We want change...it's just who is that change agent? We're starting to get an answer from the rank and file...one that I heard loud and clear last night and I'll be interested the reaction on the netroots in the days ahead.

I voted for Obama in '04...he's my junior Senator and I'd gladly vote for him again for re-election. However, I will admit I was concerned about his experience and ability to translate rhetoric to legislation. I've seen other change agents in my life...such as a Jimmy Carter and even Bill Clinton come along and hit brick walls as the ideals run inot the byzantine world of the beltway. Obama has surrounded himself with some of the sharpest political minds, now I'll be watching curiously to see how his support grows and how the other campaigns react.

I now expect to see a large number of Independents jumping into the Democratic Primary in New Hampshire that is sure to help Obama and set up quite a showdown in South Carolina. Hillary now almost looks like Rudy...she'll need a Tsunami Tuesday firewall and I don't see that happening as I recently saw a poll with Senator Obama at over 50% here in Illinois.

But then even the Repugnican want change. Hucklenutz win is a far greater shock to their system and with a far different reaction. Just look at how the freepers heads are exploding. Schadenfrude has no limits.

Cheers...
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:39 AM
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9. That is a beautiful, most welcome development! n/t
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:39 AM
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10. Very encouraging
Anyone who thinks the youth of this country is out of touch is an idiot. They won it for Clinton I. Hillary just doesn't seem to be grabbing them like Bubba did (Not in that way! Pervs!). Someone in another thread described Hillary as "Speaking to us like she's our Kindergarten teacher", I'm paraphrasing, but I think it's an apt description. As a rule, what young person really enamors themselves with a teacher figure? There is an unconsciously triggered aversion to authority in youth, but when they finally figure out stuff on their own, watch out!
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:22 AM
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18. We generally like our college professors!
;-)
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:36 AM
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19. I did too, ok general statement I know
I guess I was thinking more of kids who were 17 ish who would be eligible to vote in the next GE. I was always anticipating turning 18 so I could vote and I had some passionate Social Studies teachers who must have instilled this in me but I don't think I recognized that until later in life.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:39 AM
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20. The funny thing about the polling...
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 08:41 AM by ellisonz
...is that young is defined as 18-30 and all of the haters seem to image Obama as being supported by scrawny freshmen in college and frat boys instead of human beings. They hate their children so much it's really kind of funny all things considered. I think they're scared of our technology. It's always Ipod this Ipod that, video games, grr...

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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:03 AM
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17. kick--important
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