Senator Edwards is kinda giving the speech of his life right now.

[WilliamPitt]

His Iowa speech was just live.

"We are better than this."

Sounding, via his Southern patois, like, "We are better 'n this."

:)

Sounded damned good.

Yeah, we got us some kick-ass candidates this year.

:toast:

P.S. Get it on YouTube tomorrow.

[stray cat]

1. I'm pro-Edwards but we do have an excellent group of candidates

I would be proud to have any of them as president!

[helderheid]

2. link? My husband has the tv

[DianaForRussFeingold]

56. John Edwards - Thank You, Iowa - Complete Speech

(Found it Down tread)
elizfeelinggreat -- Fri Jan-04-08 06:19 AM
Response to Original message
32. found the link to this great speech! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohfKFjpH5j8

:applause: Thank You,elizfeelinggreat :applause: 'Edwards 2008' :kick:


My dream team-- Edwards/Biden 2008?
The concern I have with Obama is, he's LieBerman's protege',
After all, Obama didn't show up to vote for, or against,'the Kyl-Lieberman amendment'
(he just hid out) -- the amendment passed without him...

[jackster]

3. Huck up in Iowa...

McCain in NH - the neocons and corporate cons are shakin in their boots. They aren't exactly ruby red are they?

the whole country's turning left - bit by bit we're winning it back with the great slate of candidates we have running for all the national offices!

[cindyw]

4. No doubt Will

Not Edward supporter, but damn that almost made me cry. If he does not win then he has to be AG. Wouldn't mind if he did. Obama's still for me though.

[ShaneGR]

5. That speech was Incredible

I couldn't believe I was watching someone give that speech.

[judaspriestess]

6. John Edwards Kicks Ath!!

GO JOHN GO!!

[EFerrari]

7. I love the way he say "those people" and means it.

Lol!

He has hit his stride. It's really something to witness.

[frogmarch]

8. Edwards is great!

Onward, Johnny boy!

K&R

Thanks, Will. :-)

[ChiciB1]

11. Missed It... Need A Link... Check Tomorow! n/t

[WilliamPitt]

13. YouTube tomorrow. Search "Edwards Iowa" and it'll probably come up.

Barring that, check the campaign site. They'll YouTube it themselves if they have any brains at all.

[Dawggie]

9. He brought tears to my eyes...

And this ol' dawg don't shed those easily.

[Flaxbee]

10. yes, I was really quite moved by his speech

it really caught my attention; I was in the other room and stopped what I was doing (the dishes) to listen - Hillary's all "blah blah blah" right now; Edwards' speech was excellent. Made me have a bit of hope.

[Postman]

12. Edwards was great.

Obama is too mamby, pamby...I'm the bipartisan candidate...

Bullshit.

We need partisanship for the little guy. Its been partisanship on the side of the wealthy for too long...

[lisainmilo]

37. Right On!

:)
:patriot:

[underpants]

14. He took full advantage of this rare national media chance

and laid out what his campaign is all about.

Well done.

Hillary is very gracious and is toning it down and speaking of a Dem win and her national campaign.

[pamela]

15. Love "the torch has passed" lines

He used that phrase twice. That was always my favorite part of JFK's inaugural address.

"Let the word go forth from this time and place. . .to friend and foe alike. . . that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans. . . born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, proud of our ancient heritage. . .and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to which this nation has always been committed, and to which we are committed today. . .at home and around the world."

[Hoof Hearted]

16. Where did he congratulate the winner? The other candidates?

No. I didn't like his speech. It lacked graciousness.

[WilliamPitt]

18. Hi. You're what's wrong. Thanks for being an example.

Now run along.

[mb7588a]

22. You're right, Will...

Repeating Chris Matthews's line like this person has is just perpetuating the problem of corporate and media control of our politics and of our very lives.

[AntiFascist]

28. Good point...

many people are way too robotic in repeating the points put across by the media. While Chris Matthews may or may not have had a valid point about Edward's speech, I find it totally disgusting that the corporate media is virtually ignoring much of his message against corporate greed. Instead, CNN prefers to have feel-good interviews with Clinton, complete with light-hearted humor about her father and the Sopranos. :puke:

[Hoof Hearted]

23. Yeah, I forgot. You're like the king of DU or something. Sorry. You know, for a writer you

don't make your point very clear.

I am what's wrong.

O.K.

I am what is wrong with exactly what, Will?

You are quite welcome, I am happy to serve as an example of what, Will?

Run along? Is this customarily how you choose to welcome those who might not fall at your feet or agree with your opinion?

Obama was not my only candidate, but he was gracious. Hillary was not my only candidate but she was gracious. I didn't like Edwards speech. Sue me.

[ellisonz]

26. Seconded.

[Hoof Hearted]

27. Thanx. n/t

[Gloria]

34. Obam/Clinton are also out to suppress this very message and play the

came the way it is usually played. Wake up, there is no real change in either of them if they're out to squelch progressives and suppress the discussion of corporate power. They're faking you out...

[tom_paine]

43. The mindless regurgitation of undigested Media Talking Points is what's wrong.

You are just the carrier of the "disease".

How about telling us, in your own words, why you didn't like his speech.

Or didn't you know until Chris Matthews told you?

I usually try not to get in the middle of candidate flame-fests, but damnit, Will is right. While you have every right to feel as you do, what is wrong (as I see it and think Will does, too, though I cannot speak for him) is the fact that ALL of us, not just you, not just me, ALL of us, have become so brain-atrophied from the Bushie Propaganda Machine and their MSM toadies of yes/no, 1/0, "it's easier to just relax and regurgitate rather than think for ourselves because thinking sucks", that we now mostly just absorb and regurgitate, rather than find our way ourselves.

It is as much a part of our surroundings these days, as the air we breathe, and no one, NO ONE is immune because like all good advertising and marketing, it burrows into the subconscious so that it cannot be consciously defended against.

Now, I couldn't help but notice your signature line of "Say It Fast." That line of thinking also plays right into the hands of the Bush Totalitarians. They have a multi-billion dollar, multi-faceted propaganda machine designed to do just that. Churn out quick quips and Orwellian linguistic redefinitions that take so long to unpack that our ADD society's eyes glaze over.

It's a brilliant strategy, evil in a way only Goebbels could truly appreciate. Not that I am accusing you of being evil, just of following the programming of "say it fast" that unwittingly corrodes thinking and aids the Bushies, whether you like it or not.

Anyway, I have already said too much by the "say it fast" principle, which means you have WON! :party:

Finally, I have dealt with so many "say it fasters" that your response is quite predictable. A short, declarative smear designed to put me on the defensive. Such smears are designed to fully discredit the "foe" by using the most brevity to completely discredit EVERYTHING someone says in the fewest possible words.

Smears that are variants of

You think you're better than me?
You're just a crazy moonbat.
You're so full of yourself.

See I thought I'd help you out to "Say It Fast."

Here's something you should read, and if you truly are on our same side, the side of Liberty against Bushie Totalitarianism, then you will put aside your ego and think about what have have said.

If not, I suppose a short declarative smear will be my reward for trying to make you realize that we are on the same side at the end of the day, and who the enemy is...the Bushies. Please feel free to use my templates, for your "say it fast" return fire.

If you wish to further examine my hypothesis, let me redirect you to Professor Phil Agre, who knows and understands this shit better than I could ever hope to.

http://home.att.net/~hugh2you/jargon1.txt

Peace. We are on the same side. I am being hard on you because I despise the short, delcarative, red-herring smear, no matter who is using it. Put your ego aside and please hear what I have to say.

Oh, and one last thing. I am better than no one. I have talents in some areas, in others I am stupid, like everyone else.

[AntiFascist]

52. Hillarians are also good at this...

:hide:

[VOX]

53. TERRIFIC post, t_p! Thanks for this...

And I too am better than no one. To believe otherwise is the first step toward Republicanism and all it (un)does.

[Seabiscuit]

49. Get used to it. Will's a man of few words.

When addressing others.

When talking about himself, on the other hand... :)

[robbedvoter]

50. Thirded

[malaise]

29. Bingo

Congrats to Obama and Edwards -two great speeches.

[robbedvoter]

40. Patronizing again on DU, Will?

You should know better by now.

[tom_paine]

45. Maybe it's YOU who should know better, robbedvoter. Please read post #43.

I could have just as easily written it in a response to you as to HoofHearted.

[robbedvoter]

51. Why are you even assuming that the poster even watched MSNBC?

I for one found out about the lack of concession here, on DU - from his own supporters
who were proud of it."Did he just declare Victory?" It was in real time - no MSM imput
http://www.stumbleupon.com/demo/?friend=2103466#url=http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3910210
I listened to the speech later and it bothered me - the fact that - like bush during the 2000 recounts - he declared himself a winner. My own opinion. I have no reason to assume I was the only person in the universe forming an original opinion on that. Maybe the other poster did too.
The fanaticism for this candidate on this board surpassed anything that ever happened in 2004. The way you treat dissent to your dogma approaches that other site.

[tom_paine]

54. LOL. Thanks for proving my point with that website.

"Stumble Upon" things recommended by like-minded people, indeed.

I also liked this one:

The way you treat dissent to your dogma approaches that other site.

What other site would that be? :rofl:

Actually, I have mostly stayed out of the campaign flame-fests, and have stuck up for both Obama and Sen. Clinton when such bullshit has been used against them, which is aboutthe only time I jump into these things.

Oh, occasionally I K & R an Edwards thread, and sometimes post "Right on!". which I am sure invalidates anything I have to say forever in the future.

I am assumingthat memes are transmitted like viruses. It also goes without sayingthere are exceptions to every generalization.

Oh, nevermind, perhaps you would be more comfortable if I spouted some flame-wars gibberish. Oh, and don't bother reading the Phil Agre page I linked to, it's just more dogmatic orthodoxy.

:silly:

[robbedvoter]

59. Actually that was the wrong link. This is the one I intended to post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3943508

[Control-Z]

21. Who concedes and congratulates

a challenger after the first leg of a race?

He's getting warmed up for the ultimate win.

[PVnRT]

31. Wow, another Clark supporter who hates Edwards.

Gee, what a shock :eyes:

[Fading Captain]

36. Graciousness? Lord. Get over it. This country has SERIOUS problems

And you quibble over graciousness.

LOL.

[Virginia Dare]

42. Agreed, I wasn't missing any graciousness last night...

the fight is still on. The time for graciousness is when you bow out.

[Garbo 2004]

17. I tend to be jaded about politicians' speeches, but he had my full attention with that speech.

:applause:

[SammyWinstonJack]

19. I missed it!

:cry: Damnit!

[WilliamPitt]

20. C-SPAN1 right now, I think...or else see post #13

:hug:

[Oilwellian]

24. A link to Edwards YouTube page

Perhaps he'll post it. It truly was the speech of his life.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=johnedwards

Edwards can beat any of the republican candidates hands down. :hi:

[bigwillq]

25. His speech was fantastic

Made me shed a tear. I thought it was the best speech of the night.

[AzDar]

30. Kick ...

:kick:

[elizfeelinggreat]

32. found the link to this great speech!

I missed it last night and just found the link


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohfKFjpH5j8

[bobbolink]

47. Is there anywhere else this speech is up?? Library doesn't get YouTube..sigh...

I'd really like to hear it!

Thanks, and Welcome To DU!

:bounce: :toast: :bounce:

[Beausoir]

58. The speech of the night. Real, substantive, and NOT read off a teleprompter. Edwards is for real.

This guy is for real.

He's not a fluffer celebrity. He can deliver a fantastic speech without using a teleprompter.

I love JE. And I love his wife.

He makes me proud to be a Democrat.

[Gloria]

33. You can download it with the newest version of RealPlayer and spread it far and wide.....

That's the best version of his stump speeches all rolled into one!

Damn, when does this country wake up???? A vote for Clinton or Obama is a vote to SUPPRESS THIS MESSAGE!!!!!

[EFerrari]

46. Thanks, Gloria! My son is an Edwards supporter and I know

he didn't get to see it last night as I did. :hi:

[lapislzi]

35. Thanks for the heads up.

Wow.

He's got the stuff.

[Donnachaidh]

38. Considering all the *airtime* he receives from the MSM

I was THRILLED that he gave that speech. It's the one time ALL of them were FORCED to allow him to get his message out. Go JOHN!

[Bake]

39. Edwards was smokin'!

The speech of his life, indeed. I think I've found my candidate.

Bake

[Virginia Dare]

41. I fell hard for Edwards back in 2004...

and every time he makes a speech like that I remember why. I like Obama, I really do, but I guess my heart is still really with Edwards.

[smokey nj]

44. I just watched it this morning and I thought it was a great speech!

[Joanne98]

48. I was at work and I haven't seen it yet, but I will. GO JOHN!!!!!!!!

:woohoo:

[midnight]

55. I think I might of caught his speach tonight, but I thought he was

already in New Hampshire.

[Fading Captain]

57. Anyone have an idea if it's on Youtube

Or if CSPAN will run it again?