Did Repubs turn out and vote Obama?

[Duer 157099]

Can they do that? What if they did so, wanting him as the nominee, because they think that America won't elect an African-American President?

[seriousstan]

1. Anyone can vote in any caucus.

[Bluzmann57]

17. As long as they declare party affiliation

See, at the Iowa caucuses, if a Republican wants to vote in the Democratic Caucuses, they have to register as a Democrat and vice/versa.

[seriousstan]

21. Correct. I believe "registering" simply means declaring at the caucus location.

In Ohio the only time we poll workers ask is in the primaries. You are not bound by that declaration at any later election in any way.....unless you count being on paper as a Dem,Rep or Indy. The only thing I can think of is that if you voted as a Dem/Rep in the primary you probably can't be a Rep/Dem pol worker in the next election.

[ananda]

2. Yes.

They're talking about it on the news now.

[RL3AO]

3. There are reports of Dems voting for Huckster also.

[Duer 157099]

9. That's kind of funny if that's what happened

I mean in a twisted weird sort of way.

[yourout]

4. If thats what they were up to they would have voted for Hillary in a big way.

No one will mobilize the right wing hate machine more than Hillary.

[Arugula Latte]

10. Exactly, yourout.

She would be their Dream Nominee.

[Duer 157099]

12. I don't know, I think they are more scared of Hillary n/t

[Raine]

18. TOTALLY agree

Hillary is the one the reTHUGS want.

[NMDemDist2]

5. yeah, I think they were trying to sand bag us n/t

[Alexander]

6. That's the excuse many Hillbots will have for her loss.

It was all those cross-voting Republicans who won it for Obama. It can't be because he did anything right. :eyes:

[stillcool]

7. I don't think it would be wise...

to discern intent without a factual basis. Call me crazy, but I think this is a great night for the democratic party as a whole. I think this is a win no matter how you look at it. I'm sure there are those that will try and spin this anyway they want, but without my television set I am thrilled by the turn-out, and the closeness.

[TheDebbieDee]

8. Yes, the repukes did come out for Obama.......

And I think it's a damn shame that after all this country has been through with 7 years of * rule, the repukes can still determine who the Democratic candidate is!

Damn rethugs! They ruin their own party by selling out to the religious zealots, then they come over to wreck our party, too!

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. How do you know repukes voted for Obama? Any proof of that? n/t

[TahitiNut]

20. "Proof"? "Proof"??? This is POLITICS! Nobody needs no steenking "proof"!

:rofl: :rofl:

"Perception IS reality!"

:rofl: :rofl:

[TheDebbieDee]

23. Is there any proof that the repukes didn't come out for Obama?

Do you think Obama doesn't appeal to troglodytes on the right who want an easy win for their repuke candidate?

[Bluzmann57]

11. In this precint, a LOT of young people came out for Obama

And yes, Republicans can vote, but they have to change their party affiliation. That is Iowa law.

[salin]

13. or perhaps, as I have heard some express,

their dissillusionment with the GOP compared to the 'optimism' they found with Reagan (I don't share that sentiment but I am not talking about me) led some to Obama righteously (that is, without nefarious, calculating reasons.)

Seriously, to get enough republicans to cross lines to do this - would be a major endeavor. Not saying that they wouldn't try it - just saying it is unlikely.

I am undecided (not an Obama supporter), and I don't find any reason to denigrate the success tonight. I think it is a significant vote. We will know soon enough how he runs in other states which should answer your 'viability' questions. But tonight, I don't feel like being part of a "he couldn't win righteously, so I will smear it with veiled inferences of skullduggery" campaign.

[book_worm]

15. I could have expected that argument by die hards of the other candidates

but apparently Obama did very well with young people who turned out in big numbers, younger women (older women went to Hillary) and with independents who are fed up with the GOP, and who we need to win in November. If you think it was Republicans who delivered Iowa to Obama then you just have a case of sour grapes. What will your arguement be if Obama wins in NH and SC? and other states.

[in_cog_ni_to]

22. I heard that Obama was only 4 points behind Hillary in NH...BEFORE the caucus started.

IF he would win the Iowa election, that would wipe away Hillary's 4 point lead and Obama may very well WIN NH! Then we go to SC where he will win HUGE. This is going to be AMAZING! I'm excited for Barack! Imagine...we could actually have an African American PRESIDENT! THAT, in itself, makes me PROUD to be a Democrat.

[peacetheonlyway]

16. that's my suspicion

throwing the race for the weak guy so your even weaker Rethug candidate wins.

i'm pretty shocked the conservative farmers went for obama.

i think the biden/gravel/kucinich stragglers made the Obama race.

makes one wonder if kucinich threw in for edwards if this would be a different night.

[UTUSN]

19. Yip, and Tweety has been LYING all day about this, saying it means

that whoever these Rethugs (and "Independents") are voting for means this candidate HAS APPEAL to "the Center and (Rethugs)," meaning that these Rethugs are doing this for SINCERE REASONS.


This is an old gimmick for the Rethugs, to pack into primaries to swing things towards the candidate they think is the weakest.

The Rethugs will be voting RETHUG in the general election.

[ZenKitty]

24. Helloo?!?!

You think? lol Sorry, hope I don't come off as snotty to you...just feeling a bit deflated tonight.

Make no mistake, this is a game of chess that is of the magnitude few can comprehend. It's just the same old game with a different deck of cards.

Ashamed as I am to say it, he will never EVER be elected in the general election for a myriad of reasons. THAT is why republicans would love to see him on the ballot.

Just my thoughts...

[bullwinkle428]

25. Serioulsy doubt that was the case in my precinct - Obama's group

was absolutely, utterly, completely dominated by age 25 and under types...I'm nowhere near cynical enough to believe that these were Republican operatives!!! :tinfoilhat:

[defendandprotect]

27. OK . . . guess I have to believe it --- !!!

[defendandprotect]

26. Yeah -- didn't want to be the one to ask that, but I don't quite buy the Obama win ---

[Duer 157099]

28. After looking at these stats, now I don't think so

at least not to any great degree.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#val=IADEM

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#val=IAREP

3% of registered repubs voted for dems -- and only 44% of those went for Obama, which is less than half, so it wasn't well organized if it even was a tactic.

Interestingly, only 1% of registered dems voted repub, but they don't show any actual breakdown -- shows zero for all candidates.

13% independents voted repub, most of which (29%) went for Paul.

20% independents voted dem, most of which (41%) went for Obama.

That sort of convinces me that any manipulative element was marginal.

imho.