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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:22 PM Original message |
THE Single Most Important Issue Facing This Country- And None Of Them Will Touch It |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. Ironic, really, since you can't fight criminals with military might. |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. A classic essay on that point |
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Mr Rabble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Wow, you've bought into it hook, line, and sinker. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Well, of course. |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Nice straw man |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Let's just say |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. But we can't protect ourselves if we go bankrupt. nm |
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Mr Rabble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
29. You do seem to be missing the point. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I think the list would include |
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Mr Rabble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:41 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Rwanda? Korean war? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. North Korea invaded South Korea; the UN authorised the support of the south |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Rwanda? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Bill Clinton was fighting a proxy war with François Mitterrand? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Ha ha ha. That strawman is worthy of the 9/11 "debunker" crying out: |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Here's an expose on the French role from an implicitly pro-US position |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
41. I suspect you know little about the damage the MIC has done to America... |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
54. Protect ourselves from what? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:35 AM Response to Reply #6 |
28. The Chinese and Russians will pick up where we left off. You DO realize that, yes? nt |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. I sure do...n/t |
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Mr Rabble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. How on earth does tha metter here? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
52. Oh really? |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. I strongly suspect the majority of the expense is driven by profit |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. James Madison, Political Observations, 1795 |
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Mr Rabble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. Here is the money quote- |
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wundermaus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. Outstanding post! |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. If they do, they die |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
9. Strongly Recommended |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
10. Kucinich touches it. |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Yes |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
55. Hillary and Dodd |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
12. This isn't news. Go back to Eisenhower's little speech about the |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. It's old news |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Oh, I have a sense of the scope. Make no mistake. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Here's the Congressional part... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:33 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Bingo--Well played, that! Picture worth thousand words! nt |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
14. I think you are right and I think it is still useful to distinguish among the Top 3 |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
17. Only two candidates will touch this issue, I'll vote for the Democrat |
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USA_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
19. Excellent Post |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
20. this stuff is way over my head... |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
23. Wow. Those graphics are stunning. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
24. K*R Great post, great narrative with graphics. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
25. why do we still have troops in germany and japan? |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
26. It is the siphoning of democracy from the people... |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
33. Does that $623 billion include all of the supplemental spending requests that Bush will demand for |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. The Trillion-Dollar Defense Budget Is Already Here |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
35. which, in turn, is a subset of THE most important issue facing this country . . . |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
37. I wonder if those numbers include the contractors' blood money. n/t |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
38. It's expensive to "defend" an empire. Which is what usually ends them. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
39. Dr. Michael Parenti |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
40. The problem is that we live in an increasingly globalized world |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. The Globalization of Power |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
43. Thanks for this post. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
44. Let's frame the issue in another way |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
49. The real motivation is, as always, money |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. The main reason for the Soviet Union dowfall? |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Main reason for US downfall is going to be the same |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Ostpolitik, actually. n/t |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
57. Most important issue because it will consume all the others |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
59. Kicking |
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