aha! Cars are a dick fetish!

[boricua79]

A while back, I posted on another thread about how I thought that for many men, car power, speed, or the need to have sportscars or unnecessary SUVs or Hummers was more related to penis inadequacy issues. I got burned by DUers (obviously some who themselves had sportscars) who claimed that their love of sportscars had nothing to do with a sense of conquering the road and projecting the same biological sexual competition onto the road. The thread was about alternative engines, and I posted that I thought that research into engines should be more geared toward making engines efficient and energy/earth friendly...not to extract more power for Nascar races (i call them, Hamster races, because that's what they are...Hamsters running around a track) or power sportscars for the rich. My argument is that I wouldn't shed a tear for all car enthuiasts who were harmed by gas prices, and I argued that people should do what they can to reduce their gasoline footprint to the minimalist level they could afford, given their jobs or situations. Having sportscars or SUVs are unnecessary, to me.

And then I stumble upon THIS site. I searched for it after seeing and SUV on the road today coming back from work. The guy had a pair of these balls hanging from the bottom of the car.

So...what else do I have to bring to the table to prove that for many men out there, it IS about the dick!

http://www.bullsballs.com/suv/accessories.html

-

[BuyingThyme]

1. Those people embarrass me.

[givemebackmycountry]

5. They embarrass me too...

But, I'll take that Chevelle SS 396 in a heartbeat.
And I'll leave the balls with the previous owner.
Pull up to a stoplight in THAT and everyone knows you got a pair.

VVVVRRRRROOOOOMMMMM!

1st gear - screech!
2nd gear - screech!
3rd gear - screech!
4th gear - gone baby....gone...

[boricua79]

11. "Pull up to a stoplight in THAT and everyone knows you got a pair. "

Need I say more about the projection of sexual primacy on the road? :)

Don't get me wrong, givemeback mycountry. I'm not trying to get on your case about it. My intentions are not negative with respect to making an example of your comment, but, as a man, I wish other men were a little honest about what it all is about. Personally, I don't really spend a lot of time thinking about MY size or whether or not it is adequate, and maybe that's why I'm totally fine driving a used Honda Civic. And if I could get a smaller one, I would (but, sadly, my side-profession requires some space for transporting equipment).

And if I really needed speed, my Honda Civic does the job. Honda Civics are preferred cars for drag racing and street racers. I have lots of friends who love the Honda Hatchback Civic for racing.

[greguganus]

21. "I have lots of friends who love the Honda Hatchback Civic for racing."

Have you seen their penises? :shrug: :shrug:

[boricua79]

23. Nop, but i'll ask them to send you a picture of it if you leave your email NT

[greguganus]

28. You're the expert on this, not me. n/t

[boricua79]

39. if you say so, love... NT

I wasn't the one asking about looking at other guys penises, for the record.

[greguganus]

111. I got all night.....(well not really)...

YOU are the one saying fast cars/speeding is to compensate for "size"
YOU are the one who has "friends that race"
So if you don't have a link to a study that shows the two are related, then I presume you are talking from experience?

Yes those nut sacks are gross, but they are showing their ignorance, not their manliness or lack there of.

Are those that love roller coasters and other fast amusement park rides, those that try to break any speed record, those that sky dive, those that rappel, etc. also compensating for "manliness"?

Happy New Year!
:party: :party: :party: :party:

[boricua79]

114. maybe they are, who knows.

Some overcompensate through other ways.

[DS1]

2. It's always nice when morons indicate themselves so clearly

[DainBramaged]

115. Hear hear

[EOTE]

3. Many, but certainly not all.

I despise SUVs and big boats, but I love sports cars and 60s and 70s muscle cars. I spend a lot of time driving and I like that time to be as enjoyable as possible. I like cars that accelerate and handle well, it has nothing to do with wanting to dominate the road or prove my masculinity. If it were up to me, there wouldn't be any others on the road who I need to prove my masculinity to.

[boricua79]

4. so enlighten me...what is it about "acceleration" that excites you?

I'm just trying to find out if, at the base level, it isn't just another way of getting a high, rush...or getting off, pick your nomenclature.

[EOTE]

6. Ummm, I guess all of the above.

Yeah, it's a bit of a rush accelerating. I enjoy roller coasters as well, I guess it's very similar to that. Although when driving it's quite a bit more fun and interactive. I definitely care about economy as well, and that's why I choose very light weight cars. My current car weighs less than 2800 lbs. This not only allows for a high power to weight ratio for better acceleration, but it allows me to get near 30 mpg while still being quite quick.

[boricua79]

7. i wouldn't mind speedracers that much

if they were riding cars with good gas mileage...although, in this peak oil time, having joyrides that waste precious petroleum seems just so wasteful. Here in America, we can have joyrides...in the rest of the world, people have to pack themselves like Sardines into buses just to get to work...and that's if they're lucky. Others simply walk 10-20 miles daily. It just seems so wrong to me. Once renewable energy cars are developed, then I wouldn't really mind if someone wants to spend their money on some sports car for his whims...at least it wasn't using up a resource dear to humanity.

[EOTE]

15. That's why acceleration is a poor judge of a car's economy.

I commute by myself to work, so decided I should get something economical as I'd typically be the only one in my car. I know I probably give off the 'boy racer' image a lot even though I keep my car looking aesthetically stock as possible. Image means extremely little to me, comfort and performance are pretty much all I look for in a car. Some people may think it's wasteful for me to drive my car to and from work every day, but somehow single commuters in their Buicks, Lincolns and Caddies get a pass. A car's weight is a far greater determiner of fuel economy than gross engine output.

[boricua79]

22. i'm with you on the last parth

I'm not giving them a free pass and harping on you. ANd you seem to be a more concerned driver than most. But I still would hope car developments would be motivated more by a need to save the planet than just giving the Hamsters in their tracks a new toy to run around in.

[HughMoran]

79. Heh, mine is 3650 lb!

I would like to have a dedicated/stripped drag car that light :D Still, the car is driven only 2000 miles/year @ 20 MPG and very little fuel is used per 1/4 mi. run.

[EOTE]

140. Yours probably has a bit more than 230 whp.

But still, at less than 1.5 tons it allows me a quarter in the 13s, that's all I need for daily use. What's your drag car?

[HughMoran]

193. Over 400 RWHP here...

I get in the mid 11's :D

[EOTE]

200. Details man!

Make, model? Engine? Normally aspirated? Turbo, supercharger? Do you happen to have any pics?

[HughMoran]

74. Adrenaline rush, competitive nature

I race for the adrenaline rush - I am usually shaking at the starting line - it's a lot of fun. I also like winning :D

[jkshaw]

8. Looks pretty gross boricua

I went to the site, checked over their offerings, decided you have the right idea -- these toys are compensation for a certain lack. Can't understand it myself. Perhaps because I'm not only a girl, but a pretty old girl.

[RedCappedBandit]

9. "many" is pretty meangingless..

besides, whats the excuse for all the women out there who are interested in cars/mechanics?

[boricua79]

12. do I have to spell it out for you?

OVER OVER compensation for the same thing.

Wouldn't be the first time I've met a woman who wanted to "out man" the men in the room. And the sad part is that what is considered "manly" is almost always just crude, dumb, and unoriginal.

[RedCappedBandit]

62. ok...

Well, your response didn't really make much sense to me, but whatever.
Some men might try to "compensate" for something in owning a big or powerful automobile.. and some don't. I always find these posts kind of frustrating, because they're just so silly imo.

Some people actually *enjoy* having a car they can be proud of and tinker around with. I drive a sports car. Its tiny, and has no power to speak of, actually. Its just fun as hell and i'm proud of the work i've invested into it. Saying people who drive SUVs are compensating for small genitals is just as absurd as some rethug shithead calling me gay for driving a miata!

[boricua79]

73. a Miata! Dude...youre...GAY!

LOL!

I'm just kidding...

I suppose people have to have their hobbies and likes...but is there alternatives to hobbies which consume and harm the environment? Just a question.

[RedCappedBandit]

84. Haha.. but to answer your question, of course there are..

and I have many hobbies, not just tinkering with cars. Of course, a lot of the work I do is on vehicles which I never *ever* drive. Its the same with a lot of people, I assume..
For all you know, I could be tinkering around with the most efficient vehicle in the world ;) (i wish I was.. heh)

..And for what its worth, a lot of car enthusiasts *do* find efficiency extremely appealing! What type of person do you think comes up with all these new ways to power vehicles?

[boricua79]

91. hhmm...good point

if it is for researching better ways to power things, I'm all for it.

[Book Lover]

97. If you think I am trying to be a man

because I like driving fast, you are many shades of wrong, young man. Looks like the guys with fake nutsacks on their vehicles aren't the only ones with some trouble understanding the nature of driving fast and free, like a bird on the wing. Or understanding women.

[boricua79]

117. yeah, I guess I don't know women..

boohoo...

if you say so.

Nice swipe at my balls there (pun intended). Missed...but it was a nice swipe.

[Book Lover]

123. See, this is exactly my point

I am not even trying to emasculate you. I am not interested in making you any less of a man. I am telling you that you happen to be wrong about something. Someday you will understand that it is OK to be wrong. You can't possibly know everything there is to know about people all at once. This happens to be one of those times. Right now, you have a chance on learning something about women, and people who like to drive fast - we are talking to you right now. You even asked for it - this is your thread! My advice is to pick up what you have in front of you.

[boricua79]

129. being wrong about something, and telling me that I don't know women

are two different things. When you try to tell me I'm wrong about women without even knowing what my success rate is with women, on anything (understanding them, relating with them, dealing with them, how many female friends I have, how many I've picked up in romantic settings, pick your category...), you are swiping at my balls and trying to get away with it. I've been given the "you don't know women" meme before and most often than not, it's the claim of exasperated women I've met who I've cased PERFECTLY, but don't want to admit it. Men are always supposed to be the ones who are troglodyte chauvinists who don't understand women. When we do call out women on the stupid things that are unspoken (e.g. why do we need to buy you a diamond ring...why are you still impressed by shiny objects?), we are right, but we don't get a "I guess you're right". We get burned for "not understanding them". Or how about not being able to ask a woman her age (I do it all the time because I'm not going to play the "let me delude myself on my age" game with a woman, but it's an unspoken taboo that you can't). I'm fine with being burned...it usually means I hit the woman where it hurts and they're covering for it...but it happens. In fact, I'll be very frank (burn away, so-called feminists): most of my female friends have been full of shit on so many issues. I could start with boyfriends they date who don't match their idealized goals in partners (wanting the good man...but actually dating "player" bad boys). I never leave a "talk" session with one of my female friends not feeling boggled about why they act the way they act. I understand the complex emotional and intellectual reactions they have to things in life and why they react that way, but I don't understand why they continue banging their head against a wall by taking the same actions again and again and again. Definition of insanity: doing the same things expecting different outcomes. I suppose I should add the corrollary: of course, not all women are like this.

As for learning from the thread, I'll learn what I think makes sense. In other posts, I think people are just trying to squirm by and cover for what is at its base a way of projecting domination of the road. Nobody really likes to admit that they want to drive fast to have something to compare with others.

Call me mysoginist, but I find most of the women I relate with to have different levels of bullshit. Some are benevolent and not very intrusive in our friendships...others mark the very core of the woman in question. The more intrusive it is, the less likely I am to keep the friendship or relationship.

As for the boys (because, of course, I MUST talk about the boys to give the appearance of fairness...lest I beckon the DU feminist wannabees), for the most part, most men I do meet are very simple-minded. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but at least we admit where we are. You never see a Joe Sixpack trying to cover up that status.

Anyway, big tangent, but I had to make a little course correction here to take care of this discussion.

[JuniperLea]

72. When I was in high school...

I helped my dad rebuild and restore his 57 Chevy... because I thought it would be cool to "talk cars" with the guys... it worked too. My daughter did basically the same thing, but with baseball. She knows more about baseball than anyone I know, male or female. She is the go-to gal on the rulebook! And guys love talking baseball with her too.

So, from a gal who has been there, it's to get the guys... no question.

[lvx35]

10. Hey, this is WOMEN's fault, not men. Top scientists agree:

http://blog.wired.com/cars/2007/12/women-who-find.html

"We doubt this came up last week at the United Nation's conference on global warming in Bali, but Britain's top government scientist says the best thing women can do to ease global warming is "stop admiring young men in Ferraris."
Yes, you read that right. Sir David King, a chemist at the University of Cambridge, says the world would be a greener place if only women didn't find men in exotic cars so sexy. Taken at face value, it seems outlandish - and some would argue chauvinistic - but King raises a valid point, even if it is obscured by the "sports cars and the women who love men who drive them are bad" tenor of his argument."

So stop admiring those golden testicles hangin' from the back of them trucks, ladies! ;)

[boricua79]

20. I can KINDA see the slippery slope

to biological male primacy - alpha maleness being associated with the man with the most exotic car.

The rough, stereotypical math would go:

In the natural world, the strongest, most fit man is the most attractive to the females

In the modern world, it translates to, the man with a combination of best personality and physical traits (confidence + "sixpack" body), coupled with the best job or outward examples of material wealth send an unconscious signal of "fitness". Thus, it is attractive to modern females....some who will prefer the car over the personality...others the personality over the car...still others the physical over the personality, etc.

I can, therefore, KINDA see the "stop admiring men with Ferraris" argument. But, global warming doesn't come from Ferraris. It's more about wasteful energy generation and wasteful car engines and horrible energy policy.

[lvx35]

33. Right. I think you can extend the argument to SUVs just as well.

Or big pickups, all the "manly" cars. The question is, can anybody HELP what they are attracted to??? Men are attracted to young, healthy women with the hips and breasts that are ready for breedin', its hardwired in. Asking women not be attracted to symbols of success and competence (the ability to keep them safe) might be as futile as asking young men to be attracted to grannies. I think what we really have to do is change our cultures so cars aren't the symbols of success and competance.

[boricua79]

37. hmm...I can agree

but then again, I, as a man, never had that much problem attracting females without having the car. Hell, I've been kinda poor for a very long time. i still drive a used car, but then again, i wouldn't buy a totally new one (waste of money). I admit that there is probably a group of women that are out of my league, but then again, I wouldn't want to date them (the model, Paris Hiltonish types). They may want to date celebrities or rich men with lots of material things, but I wouldn't want to put up with their vain, self-centered attitudes. So, within the circle of women that are within my reach (which is pretty much every other type of woman out there), I have never had much trouble relating iwth them. It may be that I project my own self-worth in my personality and self-confidence. Ultimately, I'd say men would do better to develop their game than buy a fast car. In fact, I'd take on a fast car owner who didn't have a personality on a challenge to pick up a woman anyday.

[lvx35]

41. Yeah, well you've got a good point there.

The thing is that the stuff that's hardwired in goes back to natural things, not things like cars. So if you do decently well with women, I'll bet you take care of your appearence, are decently fit, demonstrate signs of intelligence when you interact with them etc. This is the stuff that goes a million years as far as signalling a good mate, and thus its the stuff that's hardwired in to women. But I think what's also hardwired in is an attraction to people with a decent social status, and what that means varies. The bad news is we've set up a culture where social status is somewhat linked to things like cars, the good news is, that's all mutable, it can change. There are certainly women out there who would rather have a cool guy concerned with social justice than some prick in a ferrari, and this demonstrates that its mostly a mental thing. If we could get our values more strait as a society and stop bombarding people with advertizements, I'd bet that most women would be that way.

[AndyTiedye]

43. Having it be CARS instead of TRUCKS would be a Step in the Right Direction

Trucks used to be for haulin' stuff, not for picking up your girl.

[boricua79]

55. exactly...and I don't blame working truck drivers

if you need it for work, do what you need with it.

[nosmokes]

13. FCOL, everyone knows 'merkun males express their masculinity through

their right foot. Sheesh.

[BlueJazz]

14. It will be a mighty cold day in Hell ...... I hate that type of "Over Obvious Advertisement"

Sorry but it says HICK in 50 foot tall letters...

[boricua79]

24. my favorite is the "would you like a classy set of balls" ad line

that had me rolling.

:lol:

[rAVES]

16. Big Gun, Big Car, tiny little dick... and possibly no friends.

[AndyTiedye]

17. Needs a Bumper Sticker to Go With It

HELP! I Closed my Trunk on my Balls!

[jkshaw]

27. Ha!

Good one!

[Faygo Kid]

18. It's not just the balls . . .

[SalmonChantedEvening]

19. I drive a Hyundai Excel

Just sayin' :evilgrin:

[boricua79]

29. I'm with you bro! :)

HOnda Civic here...and never need to prove jack squat on the road.

I wouldn't really want to meet any women who actually concern themselves with penis size issues. Vampiresses...all of them! Let them meet one of these jackoffs.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

32. 14 years old and still gets 35mpg :)

His name is Atilla. :)

[taterguy]

34. Why not a bicycle?

I'm sure you have plenty of reasons but let's be clear: Your Honda Civic does use precious resources that you claim are needed elsewhere.

[boricua79]

36. We have to balance our lives with precious resource usage

I'm not asking people to take a pie in the sky, never use a car, approach. I need the car to get to my place of work. No subways where I live, and i work 20 miles from home. I also travel about 1 to 2 hours every 1 to 2 weeks, because I perform music, and I have to travel to gigs. I have to take equipment as well. so, I have no choice.

My attitude is: limit your usage to its bare minimum. I don't take joyrides...if I need to take of care of business, I consolidate trips and go shopping as part of one route of travel that ends at my home, etc.

I don't blame people for needing a car. I blame them for buying "non-necessity" cars (sportscars, SUVs, etc.). If they need a big car for job-related equipment, then i don't really blame them either.

[NeedleCast]

45. Reminds me of a story

Man asks a lady is she will have sex with him for a million dollars and she says sure.

Then he asks if she'll have sex with him for five dollars and she say "hell no, what do you think I am, a prostitue?"

Man says "We've already determined you are, now we're just negotiating price."

Hehe, I'm must busting your balls a little (no pun intended) but at the end of the day, there's a large group of people out there who really love classic/muscle cars and it has nothing to do with compensation for small penii. I was born in the 70s, child of the 80s and driver of the 90s but I still love classic cars. Chevelles, old Cameros and Mustangs, GTOs and my personal fave, the Toronado. This year I've been looking for a '68 Buick Skylark convertible that I can restore. Keep in mind that a lot of these "penis mobiles" are colloctors items and are rarely if ever driven.

Gas efficient or not, I love the cars and it has nothing to do with the size of "little NeedleCast." For some of us, it's just a hobby and an enjoyment of the asthetics of certain cars from a generation past.

[boricua79]

46. I like the cute story

and I can appreciate the hobbyist thing. I probably have a similar fetish with instruments. But, at least my hobby doesn't involve wasteful use of resources. Normal use is just fine...but wasteful is what bothers me.

[NeedleCast]

58. there's a lot you can do to be green

My whole take on the environmental impact thing is that if everyone did a little, no one would have to do a lot. I make sure to keep my heater turned down, unused lights off, electrical appliances I'm not using turned off, LED or florecent light bulbs. I recycle and even have a compost heap in my yard. So I guess when I get the muscle car I've always wanted, I can still feel good about my personal impact on the environment.

One other point I'll make...for hobbyists and racers alike...they keep their cars in PRISTINE condition. The engines are beautifully tuned. You love musical instruments, I love the music a perfectly tuned V-8 makes. This fine tuning keeps most of the cars in top running condition which means a lot of these machines get higher than expected gas milage. There are a lot of "high milage" older cars out there that don't get very good milage anymore because their maintinance has been neglected.

[boricua79]

67. I do what you do

unused lights, turn off my multiple cord at night (so devices do not eat electricity in "StandBy" modes), consolidate trips on my car, make only necessary car trips, keep heater down, use better light bulbs, etc.

That's really all I'm asking of people...that they examine their lives and make some adjustments.

[AndyTiedye]

54. Most of those Old Muscle Cars Wouldn't Be Too Happy With What Passes for Gasoline Nowadays

10% ethanol? No lead? Ewww. My old Moto Guzzi sure didn't like it, and I don't think these old classic cars do either.

[NeedleCast]

61. True

I have a few friends who re-build classic muscle cars and more often than not, the older engines are replaced.

[AndyTiedye]

And if its an Old Car, You Have to Worry About Passing the Smog Test, Unless it is REALLY Old

[Pavulon]

77. Exempt in some states..

Evil incarnate!


Nothing that a bit of this cant fix. Under the table.

[NeedleCast]

78. welllllllllllll, there are some ways around that

It's nice to have friends that live in states that don't have emission inspections.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

127. I can't stand that stuff.

Whatever it is, it's not gasoline.

I ran across this article. What's happening to his motors is happening to my motors.

An Inconvenient Truth: Green Motors Are Anything but Smooth Sailing

By Angus Phillips
Sunday, November 18, 2007; Page D06

After a lifetime of fussing around with balky outboard motors, I'm not going to panic at every little setback. Outboards are cranky by nature; they live and work in a hostile marine environment. If you're not prepared for a few unpleasant surprises, you'd better take up rowing or paddling.

But it's getting ridiculous. "A friend of mine who works on small motors has 25 or so just like yours lined up in his shop," said veteran outboard mechanic Scott Noyes, service manager at Shamrock Marine Service in Pasadena. "They're all doing the same thing."

The symptoms should be familiar to anyone experienced with outboards -- hard to start, then popping, sputtering, stalling and breaking down at speed. It could be electrical, as connections and relays get funky over time. But usually when outboards start acting up, it's fuel related.

And never has fuel been a bigger problem. The villain is E10, the ethanol-gasoline mix that is now standard issue at most fuel pumps as the government seeks to decrease air pollution and reduce America's reliance on imported petroleum.

[taterguy]

47. Sorry, I forgot that you live in a land where you have no choice about where you live

I'll never make that mistake again

[boricua79]

52. you want to pay my moving costs, buddy?

I've moved all over the Northeast...cities and non-cities.

I've decided to stay where I am because

1) better jobs
2) closer to family and job networking / friends
3) better area for my musical side projects.

A city like New York wouldn't do well for me...too much musical competition, too little jobs, high living costs, and crappy jobs.

[taterguy]

59. No, I don't want to pay your moving costs

I'd just like to remind you that we all live in glass houses

[boricua79]

65. yeah, I can't criticize hummers and wasteful carfs

because I refuse to huddle up in a small apartment in NYC and use a subway as the only way to live life.

Good argument there :sarcasm:

[taterguy]

80. You can say Hummers are bad but I don't quite get the distinction between necessity and luxury

I don't "need" to get in a car and occasionally drive 150 miles to get to this spot, but I do it because I want to and it's good for me.

So who am I to judge how others get their jollies?

And just for the record I'd never live in NYC either.

[boricua79]

83. the irony, anyone?

150 miles wasting gas and polluting the environment...

to reach a pristine natural spot endangered more by your wasting gas and othes like you.

IRONY !!!!

[taterguy]

128. Why is that wasteful? Seriously

Spending time at that spot helped me land my dream job, a job that's less than two miles from my house that I ride my bike to almost every day.

[boricua79]

130. I guess it had financial benefit for you

but don't you see the irony of needing to "get out" to a natural place and spending so much gas money and polluting the air with the exhaust...actions that will one day turn THAT natural place and others into smog-covered deserts?

That's like eating horribly the entire day, just to go to the gym to "get in shape".

[sentelle]

176. I've lived in NYC

I've ridden the subways to get to work before. Still there are skads of SUV's even there.
I now live just outside Seattle, and while you don't have as much of that SUV crap here (everyone seems to drive subarus), you still have some.

The problem is not just the over-compensation, but the aggressive-offensive driving that comes with it. Where they attempt to intimidate everyone in front of them, so they can barrel down the freeways at 80+ mph.

SUV's were never designed to do 80+ MPH safely. Off-road vehicles generally don't do more than 40 MPH, while off-road.

Personally, I always loved a good tight suspension, quick manuverability, and the ability to take those turns crisply.

Then again, I commute on a Bicycle (yes, even in the rain).

[AndyTiedye]

48. How About This Sportscar?

http://www.teslamotors.com/

[boricua79]

53. Now that is a cool sportscar

and the best part is that it's non-polluting. THat's the type of car I wouldn't midn on the road.

[NeedleCast]

66. Just shows people find different things pleasing

I think it's okay, but I'd much rather have a 60/70's era "muscle" car. I like the fact that they were (generally) bigger and vastly simpler. No computers, just machines. Strange that I like them, because I work with IT and love computers, just not in my cars.

Give me a Toronado or a Chevelle over that death-box any day!

[Pavulon]

68. The generated power pollutes

unless it comes from a clean source, like nuclear.

If it is generated by coal, just a movement from one tailpipe to another.

[boricua79]

69. unless the electric power is generated renewably

whatever research and development is done, should be done with an eye to renewable energy sources. That's my argument.

[Touchdown]

104. They sell that car with Roof mounted solar panels.

Enough to charge the car and some left over for the house. It's an option, like everything in cars, but there it is. Your argument also carries no weight, because 200 coal fired power plants' emissions are MUCH easier to regulate than 200 million cars.

Every time electric cars come up, someone still brings up that same bullshit argument.:eyes:

[EnviroBat]

151. I hear ya TD...

Yet they never seem to state an alternative to the very thing that just might save us from economic collapse...

[IDemo]

197. About time to post this again..

Debunking the Myth of EVs and Smokestacks

[EnviroBat]

150. Love it love it love it!

My favorite car. I can't wait till they become affordable.

[Pavulon]

51. Thankfully this distorted view

is not forced on us all..

the amount of oil burned by vehicles is a tiny fraction of the petroleum used. Insulating your home goes much farther.

This wastes more fuel than a FLEET of hummers.

Plastic balls are tacky and stupid but being free to spend money on a vehicle of my choice.

[boricua79]

56. I think I would agree with you

if you're argument is that larger homes are wasteful. I would make the same argument about cars as I would with homes. Don't buy a wasteful-size home. Buy what YOU need, in terms of your family size, your profession, space requirements, etc. If a one room does it for you, live in that. If a 4 room house is needed, get that.

The operative word is NEED...not DESIRE.

[Pavulon]

64. Sorry, I am free to buy what I desire

expensive guitars, german sports cars, new england victorian era homes that cost a small fortune to heat. Personal responsibility are great inflicting them on me..BAD.

Desires make life fun.

[boricua79]

70. and in some cases, life short for others

Maybe it's because I've been poorer than others in my life, but I found hobbies and things to collect that were low cost and never harmed anyone. I'm am usician, I collect music, i like playing chess, I play video games, I do exercise, I play sports, i enjoy time with friends and families...none of my hobbies or desire infringe upon others or harm the planet. Why can't people develop hobbies that do not harm others or the planet?

[Pavulon]

92. Responsibility is great

I drove shit cars that left me stranded. I payed my way through a state school. Work hard and save and invest. Now I drive decent cars that start in the morning.

So buying a car that is fun is reasonable.

[boricua79]

94. I have a used Honda Civic...77K

works like a charm. Starts in the morning. Paid $5100 for it.

No need to waste money or unnecessary gas.

I was a smart car buyer.

[Pavulon]

Ha Got you beat

have a 82 240D. 363K miles. $2500. Dont drive it all the time. Use to drive it a good bit.

I do have lots of tools and enjoy fiddling with it to make it run. Spent lots more than the purchase price on parts and at the machine shop..

I drive newer (safer) cars now but it is a great car.

Honda and toyota do make great cars.

[boricua79]

103. 363k? Wow...hat tip to you.

that's quite the extension of car life there. that's the way it should be. My respects.

[Pavulon]

116. Good for an honest million miles (few pics)

all you have to do is keep rebuilding the top end. There are plenty out there with million miles or more. Some parts are still stamped W. Germany. Fixing interiors is where the money gets spent. They are tractor simple. The trade off is bad acceleration, and stinky loud diesel. It does not run like a modern E series.

"Diesels last longer than dinosaur bones" is true.

I put 150 on it, rebuilt it after 75000. It is good for 300 more.

However they are picky and not a great daily driver. Your honda fits that bill better.

Subaru and old saabs last forever as well.



This is a great car.. There is a DIESEL CIVIC coming to America!

[NeedleCast]

25. Chevelle SS

That is so sexy. The balls need to come off, but that is a beast of a car and looks like it's in cherry condition.

[EnviroBat]

177. Like this one...

[Captain Hilts]

192. Looks like it's in "cherry" condition?!

[LiberalFighter]

26. How old are the drivers in the photos? Probably immature dickheads.

I doubt they are married with kids.

[boricua79]

30. I called my girlfriend today

and as a joke, I asked her what she would think if I ever came home with one of these attached to my civic.

She adores me and wouldn't EVER leave me.

First time in her life she said, "honey, I'd find a nice way of letting you know that it's the balls or me.".

That was all the convincing I needed! hahaha. :)

[TheCowsCameHome]

31. I saw one of those stupid things with only one ball.

The driver must've gone thru a nasty divorce, or something.

[greguganus]

35. Or surgery! n/t

[boricua79]

38. hahaha...

or a "bumpy ride"! Tata, shing!

I'll be here all week folks...don't forget to tip the waitress.

[AnnieBW]

49. He took his ball

And went home.

[Edweird]

40. Cars ARE NOT a "penis substitute"

These people with the "nuts" are surely lacking class and style, no doubt. But owning a fast car is no more an indicator of penis size than bombing down the side of a mountain on a snowboard, skydiving, shooting, boxing, or even riding the thrill rides at the fair. The whole "penis" thing is, in my opinion, merely a "progressive approved" bullying tactic to shame others for enjoying certain objects or activities. Some people may like things you do not. It's called diversity. It's a good thing. And neither person is automatically superior OR inferior because of their preferences.

I personally am an adrenaline junkie. I love the endorphins. I don't drink (often) or smoke or do drugs. But I am a complete idiot on a mountain bike and will think nothing of hitting speeds upwards of 45 mph going downhill over terrain that would scare a billy goat. I've owned fast cars, motorcycles, big trucks.. all the so-called "small penis indicators", BUT, I am , according to all the statistics I can find, somewhat above average. Nothing "porn worthy", but not small by any measure.

edited to add:

And Freud replied "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar"

[boricua79]

50. not size, projection

It's very possibly that many fast car drivers are big penis men. Doesn't men they're not trying to overcompensate for insecurities or attempting to project their sexual prowess through their cars.

Good luck with the 45mph on rough terrain...I would be deathly scared...mostly because I don't want to die. And it's not about size. It's about projecting your sexual identity on others on the road. You may very well be "hung". Who cares really...not any women that would interest me.

And cigars are dicks...Freud was trying to explain his own unconscious dick fantasies away...big brown dick, George Carlin calls them.

[Edweird]

63. Again with the "they are insecure".....

I'm not saying it's never happened, but it sounds like you've pretty much decided that anybody who likes things you don't understand or enjoy has some kind of defect.

"Guys with fast cars are compensating"
"Redheads are easy"
"insert other stereotype here"

see how that works?

Stereotyping is wrong no matter how justified you may feel about it.

[boricua79]

76. i disagree profoundly!

redheads are not easy at all. They tend to be very inquisitive...and cockblock guys attempts to pick up their friends a lot! Blondes on the other hand... :)

Someone once told me that stereotypes are half-truths. They become stereotypes because enough people fill the characteristics. I don't need to question every single person out there on why they like their cars. But, more often than not, my assumptions will be correct. That's enough for me.

[Tejas]

124. this "denial" thing of yours...

Ever owned a fine example of American engenuity?
Ever admired the craftsmanship involved?
Ever worked on one with your bare hands?
You looked at what a '70 Hemi 'Cuda is bringin' nowadays?
Tried buying insurance on one?

No, your type doesn't understand the investment potential much less anything concerning engineering marvels created right here in this great country. The only thing that can cross your mind is that same old tired line about "penis-this" "penis that" speil.

Would you seriously have us believe that females who build hotrods and muscle cars have a penis-envy problem too?

[boricua79]

131. American cars being great?

I'll stick with Japanese. Haven't bought an American in my life. The only American car I semi-owned (owned by my girlfriend at the time) broke down at 150,000 k (transmission issue). Never will buy an American car after that.

[Tejas]

144. Maybe your girlfriend should post, being as she owns and you don't

I see where your penis-this/that comes from now.

;)


(hey, just funning with ya! now go be a man and go change her oil, chicks dig that!)

[boricua79]

155. :)

don't give me ideas...I've been kinda bored today at work. Might need a change of oil myself. :)

[blues90]

42. I can tell you being a male that you are right

I don't care how anyone tries to justify their passion for a car or SUV including these raised up Pick up trucks with huge tires or the 4 door crew cabs with dual rear wheels that it is all about some insane status symbol .

I worked for many years at dealerships and most all the men who climbed out of the huge trucks were short little shit heads who think they make an impression and the ones who owned the high horse power cars where complete ass holes with the largest mouths when they had one little problem trying to reach the speed the add said they could .

Fuel economy is one issue but speed is quite another , where on the roads today can anyone use 400 HP and rapid acceleration , what , to get around a car that's in your way which is what most of these people do and as you stomp on the gas for the speed down goes the mileage there is no way around this .

The auto companies know this , this is why the mustang is back with the cobra name and look .

These power car drivers are the reason people get killed and it's high time these power cars and raised trucks are banned from the roads .

Go to a track and speed your fool heads off but stay the hell off the roadways .

People get a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt , well what good is a belt if your cars roof is sheared off by some gladiator truck yet there is no law to prevent these things from being on the road .

A car is for transportation , this is what it was designed for but along comes the fool who builds the street race car and then justifies it with good gas mileage , big deal , you people miss the point and you are liars when you say it is not an ego issue , I'll bet you don't even know why you have these things since it's always the same pat answer when you are asked or attempt to justify it .

People with the HP are just as dangerous and out of control as the drunk driver or the fool with the cell phone in the ear . Beside this you really only make the insurance companies rich .

Ego maniacs .

[Pavulon]

60. Ban it all

house over 1500 sq/ft. You are a resource hog. We should all live in modular boxes.
watch cost more than $12, you selfish bastard..
attend a private college?, my god you are an elitist bastard.
Do you have anything that stands out? Well , ban it.
Fender guitar, ban it.

A prius cost more than a mustang. A lotus has 170 or so HP and will out accelerate the majority of 400 hp cars.

You post is surprisingly ignorant for an adult.

[blues90]

75. Your post has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at all .

I could care less what someone like you has to say about me . Your comments mean nothing . Do yourself a favor and keep pumping that gas pedal .

[Pavulon]

86. Diesel Pedal

I daily drive cars that run b20. 40 mpg not a problem. Better than hybrid in all ways than a hybrid. Including safety.

When someone starts screaming ban it smacks of ignorance. It can impact me.

This is what you end up with when you ban anything with soul..

[blues90]

99. No machine on earth has a soul

People need to sacrifice something in order for everyone to survive . Let change ban to remove the waste and squander of make these things illegal to drive on the roads where they have to purpose or function or place .

Simply because someone has the desire to build something and sell it does not mean it is the best idea or even safe . Just like these enormous car stereos . I don't want to spend the rest of my life repeating myself because someone drove themselves deaf and their kids as well . Noise is a form of pollution too .

Many products are bad ideas .

[boricua79]

101. not to mention that they're horrible, musically speaking

my brother listens to hip hop on his 1000 watt speaker system on his car. The bass tones are overamplified, while sometimes, certain bass guitar frequiences are not amplified well, and the treble/mid range is destroyed by the overbearing bass.

Who wants to listen to acoustically imbalanced music.

Backwards music settings for backwards people.

[blues90]

110. I've seen wiper blades and doors vibrating from these things

The human ear can only hear a certain range of HZ and volume . I can just picture the tiny ear drum and the three connecting bones trying to keep in place fighting 12" woofers . They have warning lables on ear buds .

[Pavulon]

102. YOu will ban my poor 240d?

it is old, and stinky. But only has 63HP. How do you decide what to ban?

MOMA disagrees with you BTW.

What about a loud stereo playing jazz?



the 320 is eletist and snobby. We should all drive ladas..

[boricua79]

106. loud jazz?

who could complain about making sure that music of substance actually gets heard. I would wish that I would get a set of young kids blasting Jazz next to my car. I might even roll down the window and tell them to turn it up!

[frylock]

105. sayyyyyyyyyy... nice lada

[Pavulon]

121. The bastard child of communism..

How the same people who managed to build the simple functional ak-47 and migs could make such a turd is amazing.

Soul. Someone posted no machine has soul..

[boricua79]

82. a watch that costs over $12 dollars won't destroy the environment

or run you over on the road.

I attended a public college...never felt inferior to a private college student. In fact, I relish the moments to debate with them.
Fender guitar...why ban that? Is that REALLY that wasteful?

[Pavulon]

87. requires an amp

that draws power. That is a waste!! Ban all non acoustic guitars. Sorry, banning cars based on brake horsepower is equally dumb.



=

[boricua79]

93. what if you power your amp

by electricity generated renewably (solar panels on the top of my house..windmill on my lawn, etc.).

Yay, I can have my fender!

[Pavulon]

95. I want you to have your fender

a 61 stratocaster...

I want the poster to have their jag. My friends to have their victorian house in NE.

They bring happiness to them. Some people are "car" people, some are "art" people (not mutually exclusive mind you) being able to work and afford something you want is cool.

Tacky rubber nuts are redneck, but dont harm me.

[boricua79]

98. and just for the record

I thought the nuts were so funny when I saw them on the SUV today. they are tacky...but the whole premise of making the sexual connection so obvious was so funny to me. It just screams, "yeah, my car is my imaginary dick" to me.

[EnviroBat]

153. Niiiice Strat....

57?

[Tejas]

178. Here's your clue

We have these things because they are examples of craftmanship, quality, and are marvels of engineering. They tick, they tock, they make cool noises and some of them are a pleasure to skin your knuckles on.
Like a fine piece of furniture, much to your chagrin, some things are just plain built well and it shows...and you can't stand it.

Then again, your "I DON'T CARE / I COULD CARE LESS" bits pretty much show you not only wouldn't understand, but don't want to in the first place. Good luck with that.

[EOTE]

179. Wow. That's an amazingly ignorant reply.

I don't even know where to begin. First off, I can tell you that I'm a good deal less dangerous than the bulk of drivers on the road. I haven't been in a single accident and I can tell you without a doubt that I'm less likely to get in an accident with my car as it is now (with about 50% more HP than stock and with larger rotors all around) than when the car was stock. You are also showing your ignorance when you claim that performance cars are about ego. My car shares the same body as an economy car (Golf/GTi) and I intentionally left it looking stock so I could avoid attention. In spite of the modifications made to my car, I still get near 30 mpg hwy. I'm not justifying my car because of its fuel economy, nor do I need to. The only one to which my car needs to be justified is myself. I'm forced to spend a good amount of time in it, so I'm going to drive something I enjoy. And believe it or not, my car spends time both on the track and on the street. It's amazing, but modern cars are capable of dual use.

Idiots with such uninformed opinions are just as dangerous and out of control as the fascists who want to ban smoking from every location outside of one's home. Or the fundies who want to ban homosexuality. See how easy it is to throw around uninformed blanket statements?

[ThePowerofWill]

44. So what? I have a set on my truck.

A tiny little Toyota 4 banger. Mine are on my truck to remind the world many of you can kiss my hairy bean bag. I'd walk around with my own hung out in public if i would not get arrested.

[emilyg]

57. I don't think the world cares about your family jewels.

[ThePowerofWill]

184. You missed the point.

The balls are there too tell you i don't care what you think. More or less the same applies here.

[HughMoran]

81. lol

you're funny!

[boricua79]

88. and what would that do

if not invite someone to come give it a good kick.

But you know, I'm intrigued...why the need to put them on your car, or to walk around with your balls dangling outside your pants?

[ThePowerofWill]

185. Wanna kick'em fine.

Same rules apply with those balls as the ones on my car. If you want to try kicking them fine, but you just may get kicked back. in reality i'm sure some bright quick thinking individual might decide it's a fine day to give my trucks lil' balls a kick.

As for your second question. Well i often have gotten made fun of by the bigger boys and their huge trucks. I put my balls on my little 4 banger to show we might be small, but we can hang too. Also a nice set of hangin' balls tend to make some uncomfortable, i like that. Reason being if your so uptight some plastic balls bother you, you most likely need offending.

[TheCowsCameHome]

142. Better buy a cup for them. They'll make the truck tip down in the back

[ThePowerofWill]

187. Hehehe....

Hadn't thought of that.

[DavidDvorkin]

71. Sometimes a car is just a car

-- Sigmund Freud

[boricua79]

89. and sometimes you're just an old perverted intellectual

Me to Sigmund Freud.

[WinkyDink]

85. My husband insists my desire for a Jaguar X-KE is more than love of a good car.

I don't know why he says that.......

[boricua79]

90. hahaha...i feel for your husband

that's one...LONG...hood...

tata, shing!

thank you, thank you...i'll be here all week....

[democracyindanger]

96. So all the women that buy SUVs

must suffer from penis envy. Thanks for clearing that up.

[boricua79]

100. No, all the women buying SUVs are just dumb

my brother's girlfriend included. She bought herself a new Mitsubish SUV...gaz guzzling.

for waht? she doesn't work in any field that requires space. she's single...no kids. What the hell did she need a NEW, 30,000 Mitsubish car for? She barely makes a living as waitress on tips!

The "feeling" of safety? Please....

Soccer mom status? Please...

A small car can usually fit 4 people comfortably, 5 regular comfort, 6 forcing it. Why do people need to buy SUVs?

They could, however, be suffering from feeling conquered on the road by men, so they overcompensate with driving some SUV...as if THAT would stop the other men on the road from driving they way they want to.

[dropkickpa]

122. Misogyny much?

Nice one. Being a woman who loves old american "heavy metal" cars, I am offended that you think it's all about the dick. Or that it has something to do with either wanting to fit in with the "guys" or getting a guy. I think they are beutiful machines.

I PREFER to drive trucks/vans/SUVs because instead of practically laying down to drive as one does in a car, I am sitting upright and have a better view of the road, and, being 5 feet tall, I usually have a much easier time reaching the pedals in higher profile vehicles without having to do adjustments to the pedals.

I don't drive anything, because I cannot afford a vehicle and because I have good mass transit available to me.

[boricua79]

132. oh...it's you again...

Love your skull pic.

lady, use a pillow or cushion...problem solved with "small" cars. My girlfriend is 4'9 1/2"...she drives the very exact car I drive. Never a problem seeing the road.

GOod for you that you mass transit. I only wish my life professions allowed to just travel without equipment. I need the car for mostly that...and because there isn't much mass transit where i live. I don't live near cities.

I'm not the one who wrote about "fitting in with guys". That was actually another female on this thread, who said that it WAS about that (for her, at least).

[dropkickpa]

143. But you are the one

that wrote that girls that buy SUV's are dumb.

Good for your girlfriend, I can't drive with a pillow, it's far too uncomfortable and doesn't solve the legs not reaching the pedals thing. I refuse to scoot my seat so far up that I risk serious injury or death from the airbag in the case of an accident.

[boricua79]

152. in that case

if it's an issue related to unusual physical traits (not reaching the pedals), than I think it becomes a NECESSITY, and not a DESIRE. Therefore, I wouldn't really have a problem with it. I'm sure, however, that there must be gas efficient cars that are designed for your body type.

[DainBramaged]

107. Most of us are confident in our dick size to not need to satisfy your fantasies

What a dumb-ass thread. I guess any sports is dick size compensation to you? Another fly speck who thinks they know or understand horsepower. :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :spank: :spank: :spank:

[boricua79]

109. where did you get that I fantasized about dicksfrom my thread?

and stop spanking me...that's so gay..

anyway,

When you're hanging plastic balls from your car, you're overcompensating for something.

And you understand horsepower, right? I, the little flyspeck tremble at the sight of your huge balls!!! Whoooohhooo...aaaaaaaaahhhhh...scary!!!

[EOTE]

180. I'm guessing Dain does.

If you're interested, it's (Revolutions Per Minute * lb/ft of torque (rotational force))/5252. And is it really necessary to use gay in a derogatory sense? What I think you're very slow to realize is that, to the great bulk of car owners, hanging rubber testicles on their car is about the most gauche and disgusting thing they can think of. Yet you seem to believe that people who have an appreciation for fine vehicles would be intrigued by the prospect of car gonads. I can assure you that far less than 1% of vehicles on the road have these, so why are you even starting a discussion linking the two? If some schmuck put a GWB '04 sticker on their electric guitar would I assume that all guitar players are small dicked shrub supporters? That would make just as much sense as what you're suggesting.

[TankLV]

108. I love it! One of my friends has one - I want to get a pair but I'm too lazy to order them...

I think they're a laugh riot!

[boricua79]

113. they are funny, I'll admit

they're also tacky and I would never place them on my car and they're still overcompensating.

But, I must admit I did giggle for a while when I saw it on the car today.

[TankLV]

118. Now I think I'll get a pair just to piss off the "holier than thou" assholes on this thread...

But first I have to get a "round-to-it"...

One of my co-workers just gave me an expanding fork - telescopes to over three feet long - I'm always going "oo - that looks good!" when we go out to eat and pass other tables - now I can sample some!

Hee hee hee...

Life's to short not to laugh at things or take things to seriously - complaining about the balls is about 2000 down on my list of complaints - if it even makes my list!...

[boricua79]

133. i'm with you on it

I just wanted to clarify that I thought it was about the penis, and that these balls kinda prove it for me.

But they are funny to see dangling from cars.

[artv28]

112. Muscle cars

Not everyone who owns a muscle car is a freeper with balls hanging from their bumper. I have a 2006 GTO that gets 25 mph on the highway. I take public transportation to work and a full tank of gas last me a month. As far as my penis size goes: "I think that you think that a certain something is not all that it could be, when in fact it is is all that it should be, and more!" - George Costanza from the shrinkage episode.

[boricua79]

119. that episode is CLASSIC

I still cringe when the women giggles at him. Ugh...bitch!

[Deja Q]

120. An inverse of a fetish. Those who have one big thing usually compensate for having a smaller thing.

SUVs say it all.

So do hummers, but that's too much a double entendre for 9PM...

[boricua79]

134. what movie is that scene with Raul Julia from?

off topic question?

[Snarkturian Clone]

139. Overdrawn at the Memory Bank-

a PBS-made movie that took place in the future city of BosNyWash. Mostly stock footage.

As far as cars go, I don't give a shit about them.. frankly I don't see what the big deal is about cars. I drive an old Honda Civic and it does me just fine-- but if people want to buy these bigass badass cars I don't really have a problem with it unless I'm surrounded by them on the highway and can't see shit.

On the whole penis thing... I know this one dude that had a muscle car, and according to what I've heard he's got quite the large unit as well.

[boricua79]

163. and he wants to project that large size on others

some do it out of overcompensation and fear...others do it through overconfidence in their manhood.

[mvccd1000]

125. Someone has to buy the new cars that become used cars for you...

I refuse to buy new, though. Personally, I've bought at least five of my last 8 cars from the junkyard. I love being able to take something that someone else thought could not be fixed and turning it into a dependable driver. My favorite?

1967 Olds Cutlass Supreme convertible: found it in the junkyard, fixed it up, and have used it as a daily driver for over ten years.

My other daily driver is a 1992 supercharged Bonneville with 255,000 miles on the clock. There is no way I would ride around in an old Civic when I can drive something like the B-ville with 10-way power leather seats, heads-up display, power sunroof, and a supercharger, that still gets 30 mpg. I'd have to be insane.

[boricua79]

135. hey...suckers born every minute

I figure some moron will do it for me...there's never a shortage of those in this country. Like my brother's girlfriend...who bought the new SUV just to feel "safe" and "spoil herself". Ahah...here's to her spoiling herself with that 30,000 car loan!

[cherokeeprogressive]

126. My Dick is not Large, nor is My Sexual Prowess Laudable from the Rooftops.

I have counted amongst my daily transportation everything from a Pontiac Trans Am to a Kawasaki Ninja 750R with a '67 Volkswagen Type II thrown in for good measure, just to mention a few.

My personal belief is that man's relationship with machines is one of evoluntionary proportions. Wrap your mind around that. Machines will eventually rule the day, thanks to man. There might be some tough times in the middle, but MACHINES will eventually be used to at least attempt to right the wrongs we've perpetrated on this planet.

Evolutionary indeed. The fact that you spend more time looking at fake testicles hanging from the bumper in front of you than you do looking in your rear view mirror marks you as someone who does not fit the definition of "... the strong survive". You've been distracted by meaningless messages analagous to circles on a butterfly's wing simulating eyes. While you're staring at those balls and getting angry, I'll be zooming up on your ass in my VW Bus (with the 2180, dual Webers and .09 distributor, not to mention the freeway tranny) and consuming you like so much open highway. It's what we predatory, penile challenged, seriously self-esteem lacking males do.

I don't know if you've ever turned a wrench or not, but those of us who have developed long ago a healthy respect for machinery that's well designed, constructed, and powerful. We've climbed a rung on the evolutionary ladder and understand that at this stage, humans will not survive without the aid of machines. Surely, future machines will be unrecognizable when compared to those of today, but they'll be mechanical marvels nonetheless.

I love a fast car for the same reason you might love a good rollercoaster: It's a fucking rush. And when for what it's worth, when it comes to going fast in or on a vehicle, I'd prefer to do it with no one else around. What would you say about me now; that I'm trying to live some sexual fantasy by going fast by myself on a road engineered most likely by a man?

You're wrong, and your stereotype doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

[boricua79]

136. hey, that last question of yours is intriguing

as for your machine fantasies...dude, I have better things to do than tinker with machines, give them kisses, call them cuddly names, and imagine the future day when that very machine will put me on their knee and spank me silly.

Have a nice day.

[JVS]

190. In the future there will be robots!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dvoX8gOFQc

[Perry Logan]

137. This explains why cars break down so much.

[laylah]

138. I have seen those

in my neck of the woods and find them disgusting.

[Ohio Joe]

141. Of course they are

Its why I bought mine :)

[Tactical Progressive]

145. I fell in love with cars when I was eight or nine years old

I can't see how that could have been sexual projection.

[Orsino]

146. I'm a Prius driver, for whom mpg's are the new horsepower.

Sure, you'll get scorched if you insist that for all men, sports cars are penile replacements. Only a fool would deny that this is a big factor, though.

[dysfunctional press]

147. what about all the women driving big suv's? do they desire huge vaginas?

:shrug:

[dailykoff]

148. put-put envy.

"Put a Dodge in your garage."

[EnviroBat]

154. I guess it would depend on the definition of "huge vagina".

Woolly like a Mammoth? Or cavernous, like tossing a hot-dog down a hallway...

[boricua79]

159. the biological logic does not translate

big vaginas are not considered signs of sexual prowess or "fitness". Sadly, big penises are.

For vaginas, wouldn't the opposite be true (the tighter the better?)

Anyway, I think anyone driving an SUV, unless they live in offroad mountain areas or do construction work, is just moronic and wasteful.

[JVS]

191. they wish they had penises, duh!

[Evoman]

149. That's tacky as fuck.

Dude, I don't get it either. I drive a 91 Dynasty (and by drive, I mean it sits in my parking spot and sometimes I forget I have it). I bought it from an old lady for 2500 bucks.

Somewhere along the line, I missed the "status symbol" lesson. I also had no problem with the ladies, and I've got myself a pretty damn good one now.

[boricua79]

158. I used to think money and looks meant everything

then I realized personality was more important. Mystery and all those pickup artists have it right, BTW. It's a very counterintuitive game of cat and mouse that builds attraction in ladies...not cars and clothes.

[Evoman]

164. No doubt. I'd have to say most guys are freakin morons when it comes to relationships.

Not that status symbols like nice cars won't work...they many times do. They are just super expensive and attract the wrong kind of person.

Lol...my best advice to people is always "learn to play an instrument, learn to do some art, or learn some magic". It's stupid and amazing how a simple card trick can get you a shit load of attention, especially at the bar.

[Echo In Light]

168. Women are no "better" at it, but cultural/gender propaganda supports the unreality

Show me a guy doing something demonstrative, arrogant, ignorant, etc, and I'll show you behavior that gets guys laid.

[Evoman]

170. Certainly not better.

Look around (even on this board), and you'll have proof of that. Women, on one hand, are luckier because most guys are fucking easy to pick up, and what they are looking for isn't as seemingly complex as women (though this is a generalization). However, on the other hand, women have it bad because many men are dangerous and desperate. That being said, I think most people are walking around in the dark when it comes to relationships and attraction.

[Echo In Light]

171. Ans from there go on the Large Print instruction of the corporate culture, its "values"

[Echo In Light]

156. Americans are very macho/militaristic.might = right sort of people

It hearkens back to the old why do women prefer jerks? thing. Many Americans absolutely adore their macho gladiators, be they of sports, of business, of celebrity. Nice guys lose here. Both genders know it yet few openly acknowledge it. Most spin a host of rationales and justifications for their glorification of competitive pride, greed, and the Jerks who "succeed" within that framework.

[boricua79]

161. when it comes to attraction and the psychology associated with it

pickup artists like Mystery, David DeAngelo, and others have it right. I've experienced predictable results based on the psychology and methods they outline. They usually begin their Ebooks or lessons with a history of male/female psychology, right down to how modern dating and courting relates to ancient, biological impulses, etc.

Buying bigger cars is an attempt at trying to be alpha malish, even if it is unconscious to the one attempting it.

[Echo In Light]

165. Sure. And what's crucial isn't that the status symbol has been attained, but...

That the ambition and drive is there to attain it in the first place. That makes one not weird or unusual. It's about obedience and cultural uniformity also. Loving and hating what others love and hate via cultural {corporate} instruction, that's the point. It's this sense of normalcy and familiarity which serves as a vehicle for the underlying psych variables.

[Evoman]

166. Hehe....for every king, merchant or tyrant who used their power and influence to

attact mates (male OR female), their was always a Casanova or Richelieu (rakes and seductors) who would could do it better by understanding psychology. We're fooling ourselves if we don't think today's world is eerily like those old days, with kings, courtiers, and rascals.

[boricua79]

174. exactly

and Mystery and new Seduction types do not falsely take credit for it. They themselves pay homage to earlier psychology and experts as being the source of their ideas. They only improve upon it by updating the base psychology to today's conditions. Mystery has a "Mystery Method" series of videos out there that can be purchased (or downloaded illicitly, if one looks on Torrent sites or Limewire).

[redqueen]

157. I'm female and I like sports cars and muscle cars.

I think it's more about the individual's own reason for liking them. For some it obviously is compensation (or overcompensation in some cases), but for many others it isn't.

[KansDem]

160. This reminds me of an incident several years ago...

I pulled up to my bank and went inside. When I came out, a huuuuuge truck, one of those kind with front and rear seats in the cab and a bed about a block long, had pulled up and parked on the driver's side of my car. Well, I was trying to get to my door and had to contend with big mirrors that stuck out on both sides by navigating around them. I muttered to myself, "Big fucking mirrors...," then saw the tires (they looked like tractor tires), then muttered to myself, "Big fucking tires...," and as I opened my door (had to careful not to hit the truck with my door), I muttered, "...on a big fucking truck." Well, I didn't know the window on the passenger side of the truck was down and the owner/driver was sitting inside. I crawled into my car then heard a "Hey!" Since, my window was rolled up I didn't pay any attention since the sound was so muffled. Then I heard "Hey!" again as I was rolling down my window and backing out. I looked up and saw a little man with a baseball cap that looked to be twice the side of his head looking at me and saying, "You got a problem?!" The sight of this pipsqueak in his macho truck was so hilarious I burst out laughing and pointing at him. He didn't say anything else as I pulled out laughing hysterically.

I later thought that if I were sitting in my car in a parking lot and someone walked by and said to himself, "Fucking ugly car," I would simply shrug my shoulders and ignore it. I mean, it's just a car! But apparently to some of these pencil-dicks, their car/truck is their life.

[boricua79]

162. You did the right thing

though kicking his ass would probably would have been more satisfying.

[cgrindley]

167. Go ride your recumbent bike, you dirty hippy (nt)

[Echo In Light]

169. LOL "dirty hippie," and proud of it :)

[cgrindley]

182. To me the idea that a powerful machine equals a penis

is itself not really that flattering to women. It more or less argues that penis = power and vagina = weak.

[boricua79]

175. is that to me?

I'm a hippie? First news to me.

Go put balls on your car, you overcompensating neanderthal

[cgrindley]

181. That's where you're tragically mistaken

I drive a baby blue convertible beetle. So there. My car is practically a vagina.

[EOTE]

189. Dude, why do I want to have sex with your Beetle?

You get a few masculinity points if it has the 1.8T under the hood though. It's got lots of potential if that's the case. BTW, has anyone told you that you look like Jesse James?

[AngryAmish]

172. Freudian nonsense

Freud is superstition. It is not science.

[Thirtieschild]

173. Sometimes an SUV is a necessary evil

After our road ate the oil pan on our Accord while we were driving something like a mile and a half an hour, we got a used - very used, 198,000 miles - Toyota Land Cruiser. It's big, it's comfortable, it gets terrible mileage (18 mpg on the highway) but it's high enough to master the boulders and gulleys on the road, and it has four-wheel drive, which we have to have in the winter. We drive the Subaru whenever possible and I'm pretty much able to limit driving the Toyota into town to once a week. Have to drive it every so often or the mice will make themselves too comfortable in the engine. I'd drive a Prius if it could manage the road, but it can't. So - sometimes the behemoths are a necessary evil.

[AndyTiedye]

194. You Might Want to Look at the Ford Escape Hybrid

There are some places a Prius isn't meant to go. That scraping sound coming from underneath the car is a dead giveaway.

The Escape Hybrid gets 29 mpg on the highway. Union-made in the USA.

[Eurobabe]

183. Oh that is GROSS, I have seen that once before and wondered WTF

that was all about...gawd, am I naive or what?

FWIW, I am a female, and I love sports cars, but I don't hang balls off of mine. :hi:

[npincus]

186. LOL- I must be a lowbrow, 'cuz I laughed....

though hubby said, "Gross".

:rofl:

[ThePowerofWill]

188. Since i'm here, i'll ask this.

What ya got against us guys with small packages anyway? Why do we need ridicule, we only have what we were given.

I guess i'll go back to my fun house mirror where my 5' height and 3" penis size look like 7', and 10".

A little bit dick obsessed if you ask me. Maybe more so than those you are trying to denigrate.

[lumberjack_jeff]

195. Except for the balls and the red paint...

that Chevelle looks just like mine.

Whatever.

You don't have to approve, you just need to stay to the right.

[mvccd1000]

198. You don't have to approve, you just need to stay to the right.

Best line in this whole thread!

Thanks, lumberjack. :)

[lumberjack_jeff]

196. self delete - dupe

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[Swamp Rat]

199. MOPAR RULES!

:D