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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:30 PM
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2004 JOE VS. 2008 JOE

2004 JOE VS. 2008 JOE
Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 4:02 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: 2008, Biden
From NBC's Mark Murray

DES MOINES, Iowa -- Four years ago, this reporter covered a longtime Democratic US senator from the Northeast named Joe -- Lieberman -- as he knocked on doors a day or two before the New Hampshire primary. Supporters and aides chanted, "Go, Joe, go" as he moved from house to house.

There was just one catch, though: From memory, the number of TV cameras and press was larger than the Lieberman supporters following their candidate, and they had a hard time finding Lieberman voters who would come to the door.

Today, another longtime Democratic senator from the Northeast named Joe -- Biden --who's running in the middle of the pack of his party's presidential field walked into to a popular downtown brewpub here, and the place was packed with a few hundred supporters. (The campaign later put the number at more than 500.)

"We want Joe!" the crowd chanted as the candidate entered the restaurant. "We want Joe! We want Joe!"

"What a great crowd. God love ya," Biden told the audience. "Good morning, Des Moines. Holy mackerel!" He then joked that if someone had told his grandfather that -- many years later -- his grandson, on New Years Day, would be in a bar packed with people who were all sober, he would have replied that that person was crazy.


More: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/01/542618.aspx
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:33 PM
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1. I haven't wanted a long shot to win this badly in decades...c'mon America 'sport JOE!
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:37 PM
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2. This country needs Joe Biden not the infantile bickering
coming from Obama and Clinton.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:37 PM
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3. This country needs Joe Biden not the infantile bickering
coming from Obama and Clinton.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:43 PM
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4. I've been undecided, but I sure wouldn't mind seeing a President Biden.
:hi:
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Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:50 PM
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6. This Country needs Joe Biden BADLY! He's got it all.
And he could use a donation to even out the $ difference between him and the media-annointed "frontrunners", no matter how small, from those of you who "wouldn't mind" seeing a Biden Presidency :P in these dire times.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 08:45 PM
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11. I want to see this underdog surprise everyone on caucus day
The frontrunner's all leave me cold. I have sent Joe a small donation. It's all I can afford with food and gas prices the way they are.

Kick and recommended.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:45 PM
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5. You got it! Go, Joe, Go. God love ya! When an underdog is
the best of the field, you've got a Seabiscuit on your hands.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 09:44 PM
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14. Iowans love the underdog. Go, Joe!
Dang! It may just happen!!! I want to say so badly, "Joe was right!"
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:51 PM
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7. God love Biden! He is so funny. And I believe he will surprise alot of people on thursday.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 10:43 PM
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15. Here is the funniest thing I think he has said to date...
""I've had a great relationship . In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian Americans - moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."


That guy isn't afraid to say anything!
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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 09:38 AM
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16. You know what?
"Joe was right!" And the Delaware Indians and Pakastanis like and respect him.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 08:06 PM
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8. Biden 4 Prez! nt
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 08:15 PM
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9. Actually, Joe 2004 is more progressive than Joe 2008 on consumer bankruptcy issues and abortion
rights and supporting really crappy Bush-appointee judges.

I think Joe 2008 is probably better on most other issues.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 08:21 PM
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10. K&R! nt
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 09:12 PM
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12. ((((BAM))))
:-)
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 09:43 PM
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13. Wow! Great comments. I am really getting excited now.
I was before, but I felt like we were struggling uphill and there was a possibility it wouldn't happen as I wished. Now, I am so excited at how Biden is exploding all over the Internet. Even a longtime Republican diehard told me tonight that he could go for a Biden-McCain election battle. He likes Biden.

Get me my smelling salts. Me thinks I'm having the vapors...that's with a Southern accent, mind ya.
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