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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 10:57 AM
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Bush's poll numbers are up a little - I just don't get it!
I kind of watch the poll number for Bush - from Pollingreport. His numbers are kind of up again. Fox has him at 36% (Fox is always high). But he is still around 33%.

That just makes no sense at all to me.

Worst adm. ever. I can hardly wait to see how history treats this bunch of corrupt yahoos. This whole corrupt government that we are blessed with right now. Inept, corrupt, arrogant, I can't really think of any more words. I just hate them.

First time in my life I feel like my govt. is the enemy. Can't believe a word they say. Am afraid to say what I really think because I have no idea what might happen to me. I could just disappear into some secret prison somewhere.

This is such a dark time in our history. And Bush is still at 33%? Unbelievable.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 11:05 AM
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1. We will never ever manage to educate the ignorant 20%.
Edited on Sat Dec-29-07 11:11 AM by LynnTheDem
Never. 20% thinks the Sun revolves around the Earth.

Then there's the richest 10% who of course support any republic government;"rightwing" comes from the UK's House of Lords, where the entrance is the right wing of the building. The House of Commons is the left wing entrance. The rich elite are rightwing. Only fools and idiots who aren't filthy rich are stupid enough to vote rightwing against their own best interests. We have that 20% in spades to add to the 10% filthy rich.

Then there are at least 3% of the deeply criminally disturbed types...oh wait, never mind, they're currently the US government.
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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 11:07 AM
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2. Democrats should remind people of his crimes...
...and use the word IMPEACH more. We are failing.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 11:07 AM
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3. Stupid People Are Having Children
Edited on Sat Dec-29-07 11:09 AM by Moochy
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 11:10 AM
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4. Must be Xmas love spilling over into the polls.


:shrug:

One thing remains, however ..... he is still the lowest rated pResident in history.
He may have taken an upswing since that time but that will never change.



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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 11:12 AM
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5. It's stubborness
People at the extreme just can't admit they were wrong. They have an "us vs them" mentality and think that Bush is just being unfairly attacked.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 11:12 AM
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6. Isn't it scary that 1/3 of the population is either stupid, greedy....
...selfish, ignorant, or all the above?

We joke about splitting the Country up but it makes you wonder if it would truly be the best thing.

We would be happy and the Repugs would be happy..(Well, until their entire system collapsed)
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 11:14 AM
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7. TERROR TERROR TERROR!!!! after the Bhutto's story I predict they will go even higher
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:09 PM
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10. Another brown person dead - Bushites like that
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 11:28 AM
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8. NEVER underestimate the ignorance of the repuke sheeple who get all info from FAUX News and their
Edited on Sat Dec-29-07 11:29 AM by in_cog_ni_to
RW fundie wacko nut job church leaders. Actually, it is beyond belief there are people in this country who still support ANY repuke. Just look at what they have done to our country! Do they really want to live under an American Ayatollah? My husband says they DO. They LIKE being told what to think, how to live and what to do because they're too ignorant to figure it our for themselves. They WANT a Theocratic country.....as long as it's THEIR party that's in control.

If Bill Clinton had done a fraction of what these thugs have done, he'd be sitting in a Federal prison somewhere. Damn hypocrites....ALL OF THEM!
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:06 PM
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9. I know lots of people that haven't a clue anything is wrong...
none... There is nothing on the news that they watch that makes them think there are any problems. Yes they hear some issues and it is the loney left, the Bush haters. other than that things are just ok.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:31 PM
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11. It depends on the questions asked, and to whom..n/t
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indypaul Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:29 PM
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12. Believe Molly Ivins told us:
Twenty per-cent of the people think Joan of Arc was
married to Noah.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:40 AM
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17. LOL! That's perfect. n/t
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:11 PM
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13. That number correlates roughly to the estimated number of fundies in our midst...
I've seen a lot of estimates that put the fundie population at about 30 percent overall (although I can't find any right now), with significant regional variations. So if you're in a group of 10 people at the store or bank or ..., statistically, three of them will be religiously insane. Comforting, eh?

A 2003 University of Michigan study concluded that the US "...remains one of the most religious nations in the world."

About 46 percent of American adults attend church at least once a week, not counting weddings, funerals and christenings, compared with 14 percent of adults in Great Britain, 8 percent in France, 7 percent in Sweden and 4 percent in Japan.

Moreover, 58 percent of Americans say that they often think about the meaning and purpose of life, compared with 25 percent of the British, 26 percent of the Japanese, and 31 percent of West Germans, the study says.



As to the alleged social benefits of religion, a 2005 study published in the Journal of Religion and Society concludes that a high level of religiosity doesn't correlate with a healthy society.

It is commonly held that religion makes people more just, compassionate, and moral, but a new study suggests that the data belie that assumption. In fact, at first glance it would seem, religion has the opposite effect. The extensive study, "Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies," examines statistics from 18 of the most developed democratic nations. It reveals clear correlations between various indicators of social strife and religiosity, showing that whether religion causes social strife or not, it certainly does not prevent it.

The author of the study, Gregory S. Paul, writes that it is "...not an attempt to present a definitive study that establishes cause versus effect between religiosity, secularism and societal health." However, the study does show a direct correlation between religiosity and dysfunctionality, which if nothing else, disproves the widespread belief that religiosity is beneficial, that secularism is detrimental, and that widespread acceptance of evolution is harmful.

Surveys show that many Americans agree "their church-going nation is an exceptional, God blessed, 'shining city on the hill' that stands as an impressive example for an increasingly skeptical world." This assumption flies in the face of the actual statistical evidence that Paul examined.


OK, we're stuck with the highest level of religiosity seen in the industrialized world, on a par with those stone-age tribes in the Amazon that occasionally get "discovered" by some anthropologist grad student. So what? Well, there's this from the 2005 report...

All of the subsequent results that compare religiosity against dysfunctionality show a basic correlation between the two, though anomalies exist. Paul’s second figure (Figures 1 and 2 here) shows a positive correlation between religiosity and homicide rates.

The United States is a strong exception, experiencing far higher rates of homicide than even (strongly theistic) Portugal, while Portugal itself is beset by much more homicide than the secular developed democracies. Hardly a "shining city on a hill" to the rest of the world, Paul writes that, "The most theistic prosperous democracy, the U.S., is exceptional, but not in the manner predicted. The United States is almost always the most dysfunctional of the developed democracies, sometimes spectacularly so, and almost always scores poorly." This deviates immensely from what most Americans consider to be common wisdom: that religion is beneficial. "But in the other developed democracies religiosity continues to decline precipitously and avowed atheists often win high office, even as clergies warn about adverse societal consequences if a revival of creator belief does not occur."


Well, gawd bless America, 'cause nobody else seems to want to.


wp
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:29 AM
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14. People who still support Bush piss Kool-Aid...
I just told a cousin of mine that yesterday. :evilgrin:
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:32 AM
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15. The war is out of the news.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:39 AM
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16. Haven't you heard?
Things are going SOOOOO WELLL in Iraq...
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:38 AM
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18. The more evidence gets destroyed the higher his ratings.
As long as his supporters think he is to smart to get caught they like him..They seem to like the Crime Bosses of America...makes them feel good about their own questionable behavior..
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:41 AM
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19. There are plenty of nut jobs who still like him.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 10:31 AM
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20. Nazi/Soviet-like propaganda works, and our nation has been reprogrammed
These 33% have been distilled for either their gullibility and fear, or their callous cruelty.

It is the same that tyrants always do, but they have never had such sophisticated advertising and marketing tools with which to sell their mental slavery before.

These 33% eventually and if it goes this way, and I believe it will within two, perhaps three decades and maybe much sooner, staff the camps and apply the tasers. At least 16.5% will. The other 16.5% will be like the Good Germans in the Village of Auschwitz, cleaning the greasy soot off their windowsills every morning without a thought as to what it is or how it got there, just knowing that Der Fuhrer is God's Chosen to Lead them from the degenerate Liberals and Jews.

It is quite clear and quite frightening (as well as enraging).

There is literally now no limit to the depths in which that 33% will sink with the tiniest permission from authority to do so.

Don't believe me? There's two decades of scientific research to back it up in my first signature link.
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