Clinton voted with the republicans against a bill proposed by dems to stop the use of cluster bombs

[Windy]

From this website http://bloggy.com/mt/archives/005777.html quoting an AP story

The Senate on Wednesday rejected a move by Democrats to stop the Pentagon from using cluster bombs near civilian targets and to cut off sales unless purchasers abide by the same rules.
On a 70-30 vote, the Senate defeated an amendment to a Pentagon budget bill to block use of the deadly munitions near populated areas. The vote came after the State Department announced last month that it is investigating whether Israel misused American-made cluster bombs in civilian areas of Lebanon.




http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00232

And from this site:

http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/headlines07/0227-07.htm

Be informed in your choice for president.

[ORDagnabbit]

1. cause she hasnt met a war yet she wouldnt vote for.....nor it seems a weapon she doesnt like

[peacebird]

2. yet another reason that I do not want her to be our candidate

[Individualist]

3. DLC loves the military industrial complex.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

4. Quite the humanitarian, isn't she? And, her pal Lieberman. K&R

[emilyg]

14. Lieberman is Obama's best friend. Did you forget?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. So?

Did Obama (not my candidate) vote against the bill?

[progressivebydesign]

20. He probably didn't show up or voted "present"

so he can attack Hillary later about it.

[Windy]

31. Um...read the post and links...he voted "Yay"

Get some substance behind you snark please

[Windy]

5. No HRC supporters with a cogent rebuttal? Care to support her position?

the silence is deafening!

[Marrah_G]

6. Wouldn't it be more productive to post the good things about your favorite candidate?

[Windy]

12. No. these things need to be pointed out. This is yet another example of mistakes

The electorate should know who they are casting their vote for. this is not negative politics. This is stating the facts. If you agree with her position, fine, if you don't, then you have to take this into consideration when it comes time to case your vote.

[HughMoran]

24. Thanks for keeping us informed

We would have no idea how evil Hillary was otherwise...

[John Q. Citizen]

23. Only if you believe adults need rose colored glasses to get through the day....

[JeffR]

7. FWIW, so did Dodd and Biden

and I'm the farthest thing from a Clinton supporter you'll find here. Just wanted to add this for accuracy's sake, though.

[Windy]

13. And that you for pointing that out

They all voted that way so that they could avoid offending the AIPAC. (the isreal lobby)
Not too impressive.

[JeffR]

15. Not impressive at all

Actually, the vote by Senator "It Takes a Village" didn't surprise at all. I certainly expected better from Dodd, and hoped for better from Biden.

[eridani]

27. That totally sucks

Very disappointing after they did so well standing up against FISA.

[sam sarrha]

8. i heard they were old munitions an 10 to 20% of the bomblets dont explode till a child plays with em

[BobRossi]

9. That is just Hillarious.

She just never disappoints the DLC.

[sandnsea]

10. Kennedy, Kerry, Wyden, Obama - yea n/t

[leftchick]

11. she took the AIPAC side

yet again.

http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4803

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Not only is she willing to support military assistance to repressive regimes, she has little concern about controlling weapons that primarily target innocent civilians. Senator Clinton has refused to support the international treaty to ban land mines, which are responsible for killing and maiming thousands of civilians worldwide, a disproportionate percentage of whom have been children.

She was also among a minority of Democratic Senators to side with the Republican majority last year in voting down a Democratic-sponsored resolution restricting U.S. exports of cluster bombs to countries that use them against civilian-populated areas. Each of these cluster bomb contains hundreds of bomblets that are scattered over an area the size of up to four football fields and, with a failure rate of up to 30%, become de facto land mines. As many as 98% of the casualties caused by these weapons are civilians.

Senator Clinton also has a record of dismissing reports by human rights monitors that highlight large-scale attacks against civilians by allied governments. For example, in the face of widespread criticism by reputable human rights organizations over Israel’s systematic assaults against civilian targets in its April 2002 offensive in the West Bank, Senator Clinton co-sponsored a resolution defending the Israeli actions that claimed that they were “necessary steps to provide security to its people by dismantling the terrorist infrastructure in the Palestinian areas.” She opposed UN efforts to investigate alleged war crimes by Israeli occupation forces and criticized President Bush for calling on Israel to pull back from its violent re-conquest of Palestinian cities in violation of UN Security Council resolutions.

Similarly, when Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and other reputable human rights groups issued detailed reports regarding Israeli war crimes during that country’s assault on Lebanon in the summer of 2006, Senator Clinton insisted they were wrong and that Israel’s attacks were legal. Furthermore, though these groups had also criticized the radical Lebanese group Hezbollah for committing war crimes by firing rockets into civilian-populated areas in Israel, exhaustive investigations have revealed absolutely no evidence that they had used the civilian population as “human shields” to protect themselves from Israeli assaults. Despite this, Senator Clinton, without providing any credible evidence to the contrary, still insists that they in fact had used human shields and were therefore responsible for the death of more than 800 Lebanese civilians.

Senator Clinton has voted to send tens of billions of dollars unconditionally to Baghdad to prop up that regime, apparently unconcerned about the well-documented reports of death squads being run from the Interior Ministry that have killed many thousands of unarmed Sunni men.

[K Gardner]

16. Thank you for this info.. n/t Bookmarked.

[rodeodance]

17. and guess who else voted with the Repugs--DODD!!

[Hippo_Tron]

19. Not that this isn't important, but it should've been pointed out much earlier in the campaign

This happened over a year ago.

[Name removed]

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[Hippo_Tron]

22. It's a hit post that are symptomatic of all camps on DU

They usually go something like this

Clinton supporter: Donnie McClurkin

Obama supporter: Hillary is friends with an anti-gay minister too

Clinton supporter: you can't defend Obama's position, just attack Clinton therefore I win

OR

Obama supporter: Kyl-Lieberman

Clinton supporter: Obama didn't show up to vote

Obama supporter: you can't defend Clinton's position, just attack Obama therefore I win

That said this is a legitimate issue that should've been discussed earlier on in the campaign.

[Windy]

32. Don't confuse politics with legitimate issues regarding the candidates

If there weren't differences, why campaign? Why vote?

[rhett o rick]

25. How is posting a voting record considered trashing? nm

[Orsino]

29. Really, it could only be trashing if it weren't true...

...or if Hillary had shown any regret for her vote.

[Windy]

30. I apologize for "digging up" senator clinton's own record....n/t

[Yuugal]

26. Thanks Senators

Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Inouye (D-HI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Schumer (D-NY)

Thanks senators, for finding the strength to sell out humankind yet again. I don't know where this world would be without people like you to make it all possible.

[Perry Logan]

28. Just to put this into perspective: even Joseph Biden had doubts about the amendment.

"For Biden, who chairs the Foreign Relations panel to which the bill was referred, having jurisdiction over cluster bomb curbs may complicate the issue. He voiced support for the principles of the amendment last fall but called for an Armed Services Committee hearing on its effects on the military."
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/headlines07/0227-07.htm

[Windy]

33. And that's a shame...

They are too influenced by the israeli lobby.