Rudy Ghouliani was a fucking MAYOR!

[graywarrior]

A MAYOR! That's IT. Nothing more. And if he WAS anything more, I don't know about it so it means SHIT. Jesus, why does CNN keep yammering on that he has experience in security and terrorism? God, I can't wait til a dem is elected so Rudy goes away and marries someone else.


:rant:

[book_worm]

1. agreed and yet he's supposed to be some kind of foreign policy expert

per the talking heads on TV!

[uppityperson]

2. A fairly disliked person who happened to be mayor on one particular day.

They day security was shown to have failed and the communications system in the city he was mayor of failed. I don't understand why this is supposed to be good.

[EFerrari]

11. My sample of NYC residents said he was a DISLIKED mayor at that.

This @sshole is trying to make hay out of the deaths of innocent people. How can ANYONE not see that?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. And he was definitely a FUCKING mayor. That's mostly what he was known for.

Other than hanging out with mobbed-up guys like Kerik and fomenting police brutality. Foreign policy? Not so much.

[graywarrior]

6. And still at it, the fucker.

[Beausoir]

39. And, given the chance, he will continue fucking. He'll fuck teachers, the middle-class, kids,

soldiers, firefighters. The list goes on and on.

He's the ultimate Fucking Machine!

[fascisthunter]

4. And Not So Good at It

At least from what I've read and heard from friends in NYC.

[TwilightGardener]

5. Because all of the pundits and cable news companies were looking

for a new narrative that would shake up the election, and seized on Bhutto's death as an excuse to promote fear and to elevate the usual suspects.

[ThomCat]

7. All that asshole knows about security

is how to use it as an excuse to make life miserable for everyone. He loves barricades, random searches, us vs them attitudes, and full-on blitzes against any area that has brown people in it.

He was one of the shittiest, most arrogant and punitive mayors this city has ever had.
x(

Anyone who votes for that bastard deserves to have him as their president. I just wish they could take him without us having to take him too.

[acmavm]

8. He knew how to get the New York Police Department to walk his

concubine's dog. He knew how to get them to chauffer her and her friends all over hell and back.

He kept them pretty safe don't ya think? Isn't that security?

:sarcasm:

[sentelle]

9. experience

His experience at Security: He turned City Hall into an armed camp, way, way before 9/11.

Terrorism: you mean after the first WTC bombing (1993) and he didn't do anything that 9/11 happened on his watch.

Funny he should use those as his experience.....

[Sparkly]

16. You forgot the squeegee guys.

If "The Terrorists" attack wielding squeegees, he's ready.

[NoPasaran]

10. Correct on both counts!

Oh and 9/11!

[BeatleBoot]

12. And 9-11 happened on his watch.

Total puke city.


:puke:

[tchunter]

31. not only did it happen on his watch...

the situation was made worse because of his policies. Remember the emergency communication center was located in the WTC; and it's not like the trade center hadn't been a target in the past...

[graywarrior]

13. I think I hate the news media more than Rudy because they keep blowing him in public

[Swamp Rat]

14. He's not even human.

[MrCoffee]

15. but he looks AWESOME in a Yankees PD/FD hat...man can he ever wear a ballcap

grey...did you ever see City Hall with Al Pacino? Every time i read your thread title i hear pacino screaming "You're just a boss, Frank, I'm the fucking mayor!"

[C_U_L8R]

17. and he wasn't a very good mayor either

ask any new yorker
I wonder how 9ui11iani polls around here?

[AlCzervik]

18. he's a really tragedy profiteer though.

a regular pimp.

[graywarrior]

19. I hate this stupid ass toothy fuck smile. Asshole.

[Disturbed]

22. Roody was so smart that he had his Command Control in one

of the Twin Towers. A brilliant move, eh?

[leftynyc]

47. No - not in the towers

It was in WTC #7 - the smaller building that fell (48 stories IIRC). It also happened to be where they were storing some kind of fuel in case of emergency. How stupid was that?!!

And while he did clean up the city and I will give him some credit for that (crime rates had already started falling fast under Dinkins), on September 10, he wouldn't have gotten elected dog catcher. His police department (under the mob-connected Kerik) was out of control and the way he treated his wife and family was shameful. All so he could screw his whore of a mistress.

[Initech]

20. Guiliani is a fucking asshole.

Seriously, I hope he loses the primaries and goes and fades into political obscurity. Even his own fucking CITY hated his guts until 9/11. What the fuck happened? Did he start taking genius pills and become the smartest man alive? What the fuck?

[doc03]

21. Tweety thinks the Pakistan troubles give

Rudy, Hillary and McCain a boost because of their foreign policy experience. If we need experiance I think Biden, Richardson and Dodd would get the boost.

[MrCoffee]

23. Tweety thinks those 3 get a boost every time the sun rises in the east

[spanone]

24. yet they talk about Obama's 'inexperience'...

we've lost the media...we may have lost it all

[graywarrior]

25. They're like flies on shit

They go into a frenzy when the smell blood and start saying reckless anythings to stir things up. God I hate them. Why to I listen to that crap?

[Zynx]

26. McCain actually called his bullshit on that one.

What exactly is Giuliani was nothing more than a mayor of a city. That's it.

[Parche]

27. And Bldg 7 fell on his watch

Without being hit by any planes...............hmmmmmm :grr: :grr: :hi:

[avenger64]

28. He ran his own fiefdom, bigger than most states. He reminds me...

... of the leader of a Renaissance city-state: colorful, bold, and with more than a touch of the tyrant.

[zbdent]

29. Reagan was an actor, and Dumbya was a multiply failed businessman

and yet, that was fine enough for the Repukes ... I mean, Ahnold was a ... gasp ... California actor ... and yet they used him for their gain ... (notice, a "real" Republican was on the ticket, and place a DISTANT, DISTANT third ...)

[Thothmes]

34. He met the Constitutional requirement for President of the United States

Thats the basis. Nothing in the Consititution calls for any experience at anything. Abe Lincoln was a practicing attorney. If being a two term governor doesnt count, how do we justify electing a two term Georgia or Arkansas governor.

[doc03]

38. You seem to be a kind of defensive

about Reagan and Bush to be on the Democratic Underground to me.

[Thothmes]

50. Not defending either Bush or Reagan

merely pointing out that they were elected to the Presidency because they were both two term governors in Texas and California. Nor am I attacking President Carter or President Clinton because their political experience was similar except that both two term governors of Georgia and Arkansas. I believe my original premise is that the Constitution does not specify any qualification for the Office of the President other than being born a U.S. citizen and being over the age of 35.

[doc03]

56. Bush wasn't elected, he was selected n/t

[Thothmes]

57. good point

[zbdent]

44. There's no constitutional requirement that the President practice any religion

(in fact, there's a prohibition on a religion requirement for holding public office), but that's not stopping the theocratically-minded Repugnicons ...

[Historic NY]

30. Rudy is a schmuck.........who would built a command bunker..

at the scene of a terrorist attack in 1993. Who would say he didn't believe/recognize the 1993 bombing of World Trade was a terrorist attack. DUH. Who would buy the FDNY radios that he knew didn't work but reissued them causing untold deaths of firefighters who never heard the order to get out. Who wouldn't have the courage to let his wife and the mother of his children know he was leaving her, he did it on television. Who would let 141 firefighter and untold civilians remains to be buried at the Fresh Kills landfill so he could clean up the city. Rudy was a hated man on 9/10/01 and people could wait for him to be gone.

http://www.rudy-urbanlegend.com/

[JerseygirlCT]

32. It's amazing.

Makes me crazy.

So he was actually resident when the attacks occured. This makes him a hero? This makes him an expert on terrorism?

His expertise before mayor, IIRC was in white collar crime, not terrorism.

He's an idiot. I'm just surprised more people don't see through him for the fraud he is.

[dorkulon]

33. To be fair, NYC is bigger than some states...

on the other hand...



6. Rudy Giuliani

Charges: 9/11 Tourette's syndrome, compounded by compulsive lying. Despite the '93 WTC bombing, didn't act to put all first responders on the same radio frequency and chose to house his Emergency Command Center on the 23rd floor of WTC 7. Giuliani Partners consulting firm routinely did business with a Qatar ministry run by royal Abdallah bin Khalid al-Thani, a man whose farm has seen guests the likes of Khalid Sheikh Muhammad and Osama bin Laden. Wooed mistress and future wife with an NYPD chauffeur and trips to Southampton on NYC taxpayers' dime. Ruined the prospect of a Times Square tug-job.

Exhibit A: Stages phone calls from his wife during campaign stops-to show 'em he's got family values. Family values apparently do not include rudimentary put-it-on-vibrate cell phone etiquette. Invoked 9/11 to explain this.

Sentence: Victim of the next 9/11, which consists of two radio-controlled hobby planes smashing into his face.

http://www.buffalobeast.com/122/50mostloathsome2007.html

[IsItJustMe]

35. Yep, that's America. And Arnold and Ronald were actors. Go figure.

[graywarrior]

36. Hell, I post Rudy pictures in Jeff Beck threads. I should run for prez.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=7287460&mesg_id=7287460

[spanone]

37. and an unliked one at that

[CK_John]

40. NYPD has offices around the world, and a force larger than most armies of the world.

The NYC budget is like the 3 or 4 largest in the world. NYC has more different people of the world than any other. It is a Country within a State and within the US.

As home to the UN is is the most savvy political foreign policy state on the globe.

And it doesn't play well in Peoria.

[Bluebear]

41. But, but, he was AMERICA'S mayor!

:silly:

[deacon]

42. His statement on Bhutto was that of a complete asshole. n/t

[JVS]

43. What did he say?

[B Calm]

45. I'm surprised they haven't name an aircraft carrier in his honor. The

cons have a way of propping their politicans up on pedestals!

[Vinca]

46. The only connection Ghouliani has with terrorism is walking.

Terrorists can walk and so can Ghouliani. In fact, that's all he did on 9/11. Walk and walk and walk and walk. Why wasn't he safe in his bunker after such an attack and manning the command center? Because it was blown to hell. If that's good experience we're in big trouble.

[bklyncowgirl]

48. His bunker was blown to hell because he insisted on putting it under the World Trade Center

The experts said put it in Brooklyn, Rudy said no, Brooklyn's too far away. It should be close to City Hall--you know--like in the World Trade Center--that's the ticket. That way it's close enough for nooners with Christie, er I mean Judy--er I mean meetings with Bernie--er I mean meetings with the emergency service heads.

The main reason that we have that great footage of Guiliani hurrying down the street with the tower collapsing behind him is because he was stupid enough to put his command bunker in terrorist target numero uno and no one should be allowed to forget it. Maybe, just maybe, if the command and control center of NYC hadn't gone up in smoke some of those brave firefighters might have gotten the warning to pull out.

[lonestarnot]

49. I thought he had experience as a mad fucking hatter. I saw him

running the streets and he every time he opens his mouth it's 9/11 9/11 9/11

[burythehatchet]

51. I never forgave the asshole for taking my seedy Times Sq red light district away from me

EVERYONE who ever visited me from another country wanted to see Times Square. 9ui11iani turned it into Disneyland.

[JHB]

52. He has plenty of security experience:

He considers it proper police procedure:

1) to shove a wooden plunger handle up a detainee's anus and then down his mouth;
2) for undercover officers toshoot and kill someone with whom they have provoked a fight (without identifying themselves as police officers);
3) to open and release sealed records in an attempt to smear a victim of procedure 2;
4) for groups of plain-clothed officers patrolling in unmarked cars (thus resembling, to the naked eye, a bunch of thugs out looking for trouble) to open fire on any "suspicious person" who fails to telepathically read their minds and instantly know they are upstanding police officers looking out for the public good, and instead reaches for his keys, his wallet, or some other mundane item.

With experience like that, it's a wonder he's not already part of the Bush Administration.

[Seabiscuit]

53. You mean back then he was still sexually active?

He wasn't just a mayor, but a fucking mayor.

[Didereaux]

54. petty mayor and mafia ball player...nothing more!

[rAVES]

55. He is the master of ripping of constituents to pay for his lavish lifestyle

His ugly mouth is slobbering at the prospect of taking this to the national/international stage.