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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 04:58 PM Original message |
A serious question for GD... |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. You seen Dr Strangelove? |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. no |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. He's hard to catch |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. I heard he vacations there |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. Damned if I know -- and I was around at the time. |
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LiberalEsto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. To Stop Communism |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
30. Well, that was the cover story |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #30 |
60. Not really so long. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. There must have been money in it. |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Thats what I thought too... |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
46. According to Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine, the military did test new ideas. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #46 |
68. Remember the "Civil Defense Drills?" |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Ridiculous, wasn't it? |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
62. Your post and the post you responded to reminded me of Eisenhower's fare well address warning |
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left is right (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. My 8th grade history teacher told me it was that the communist |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Odd |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. I might be wrong here, but didn't the French move out and the US move in... |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Yeah |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Read this book: |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Thanks for the recommendation |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 08:19 AM Response to Reply #8 |
34. The "pueblo incident" was in Korea |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
37. The USS Pueblo was captured by the North Koreans in 1968 |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Oh |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
9. MONEY. There's a TON of money to be made when you have a war. nt |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Do you think that was the sole reason? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
67. I have a friend who argues that all wars are about money |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
10. You won't get flamed. |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
12. Communism, an idealistic economics system was viewed as a pathogen that needed to be quarenteened |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Was it that bad in the 60s and 70s? |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #14 |
48. "Communism" as it was popularly understood in the U.S. at the time was deeply feared. |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
15. Domino theory, advancing communism, unending supply of |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
16. On my take, it was part of a global chess game, turned deadly, based on the |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. (aside) And to be fair. Not all French influence in the country was a negative, apparently. |
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existentialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
18. "Why Vietnam?" (the title of one of LBJ's speeches) |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
50. Kennedy was rejecting post WWII attitudes |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
19. We were lied into that war, too. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
20. In order to protect and further enrich American corporate interests in SE Asia. |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Those lessons were not learned |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
22. The important thing to remember is that we fucking flat out LOST, BUT NOTHING HAPPENED. |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Sad but true |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #22 |
49. I've often reflected on the same facts. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #22 |
63. Except, of course, for those communist insurgencies throughout the South Pacific. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
24. We fought the Vietnam war to protect capitalism. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 02:17 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Exactly, this whole issue and the accompanying mass murder of millions of innocent people |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 02:34 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Yes, Ho Chi Minh was more socialist |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
33. So the military industrial complex could profit and grow? |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
35. My draft board ordered me to |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
36. Read Halberstam's book The Best and The Brightest |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
38. 20+ years of daily payouts to the Defense industry. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
40. To save us from "yellow dwarves with switchblades" as LBJ said. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I'm curious |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Sure. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Thank you. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
42. To stop the Communists. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
43. Dominos |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
44. It was the product of the military-industrial complex. n/t |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. That's it in a nutshell |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
45. LBJ wanted to show he was tough... |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
51. We had to preserve the purity of our essence. |
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formerrepuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
54. There hadn't been a major US military action in more than a decade (Korea); |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
55. My mother told me "we are fighting them over there so we don't have to fight |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
56. An Unwarranted Fear Of Communism |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
70. Very good points, and the ego thing is definitely true |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
57. to kill them darn commies! haha |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
58. Reason |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
59. Started out small, then we got enmeshed |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
61. Rubber and Communism |
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brazos121200 (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
64. I've been told that part of the agreement at the |
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Trailrider1951 (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
65. Money, honey |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
66. Don't flatter yourself...it's embarrassing |
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