My thoughts on this so-called "war on Christmas"

[BushOut06]

We all know the routine. Every year, we hear stories from around the country about how evil local governments are trying to stamp out Christmas. You usually hear something like "In California, a town denied the Holiness Baptist Church's request to erect a 40' tall nativity scene in front of City Hall," or some nonsense like that.

Fact is, if anyone is waging a war, it's these overzealous Christian fundie types. For them, Christmas is an excuse to get as much in-your-face as they can possibly get, and an excuse to trample all over the U.S. Constitution. They know damned well that the Constitution prohibits official displays of religion. "But this is CHRISTMAS" they say. The idea that there may be people of other faiths (or no faith at all) who don't celebrate Christmas is totally foreign to them. But they're not content with mere Christmas displays. No, they want to force upon us the TRUE meaning of Christmas. Which is what, really? The birth of the person around whom their religion is based. And if you have a problem with government promoting the birth of Christ, then there must be something wrong with you, according to these people. Why, you must be a goddamned athiest commie!

Most people have no problem whatsoever with people celebrating the birth of Christ privately. If people want to have a nativity scene in front of their church, so be it. But why must they insist on cramming their religion down everyone's throat? I think we all know the reason, it's part of their larger agenda to turn the entire nation into a Christian theocracy. These are the same people who argue for prayer and creationism in public schools, zealously enforce "morality laws" against strip clubs and adult bookstores, and continue to think that homosexuality is a mortal sin. The same people who want government to display their religious symbols howl in protest whenever they see a Wiccan pentagram in public.

[Evergreen Emerald]

1. My daughter has a teacher who will only say "Merry Christmas"

and brags about it. She said she hopes she gets arrested for it because she is fighting the war on Christmas. I told my daughter, the next time she tells her "Merry Christmas" to respond: "Happy Hanuka."

They are too stupid to see that Happy Holidays is inclusive, respecting all religions and holidays of the season.

[Red Zelda]

2. I prefer "Happy Santa Claus's birthday!"

[acmavm]

3. Happy Holidays is the correct way to great people at this time of year.

Respect for people's beliefs is not only the intent of the founders of this country, it's the way decent and spiritual human beings think and behave.

[BushOut06]

4. Ah, another paranoid delusional fundie

Getting arrested for saying "Merry Christmas"? I bet some of these people would love to get arrested for something like that, if only to "prove" that they are being persecuted. I think they like to get together and regale each other with tales about how they're "suffering" because of their faith.

[treestar]

11. And they are so stupid to even say that, because there is no

way they will ever get arrested for it.

:rofl:

To them persecution is not being able to force their religion through government. It's so ridiculous.

[blondeatlast]

5. It takes a fdelusional psychotic to read something more into a polite

good wish. I say Happy Holidays exclusively--I know eople of virtually every faith and no one is offended by it.

I'm a self-labelled Christian alarmed at how very many delusional psychos use my faith as their disease.

You've absolutely nailed it.

Happy holidays, everyone, and peace, prosperity, love and happiness to all.

[mac2]

6. Religious cronyism

Ever since Bush took power the religious groups are more active and powerful than ever trying to remove our democracy for a theocratic type society. He uses them for his power and division. Bush should be impeached for taking our tax dollars without Congressional or citizen approval. He gave favored groups billions over the years.

Religious oversight organizations (Americans United for Separation of Church and State, etc.) have taken it to the federal courts but is has been thrown out and ignored. The Supremes who gave Bush power in the first place are treasonous. They look out for their own religious self interest. To be so is a terrible thing for a judge who should represent all Americans. They should be removed.

What is this illegal tax money for? Select Faith Based Charity organizations whose clergy do deals with the President and Congress. The poor and needy still are not being helped. Facts are they are worse off. In a time when the poverty rate is up because of "Conservative" political agenda the poor are even more numerous.

The new buildings on private university campuses, hospitals, churches and in towns can be seen every where. The towns may be 90% this or that but right in the middle of it all is a church building or facility not of that denomination. Like in Baptist Charlotte there is a huge Catholic cathedral. Or a huge Catholic hospital right in Baptist Asheville, NC. In my town of largely Catholics a huge non-denominational Protestant church. No one goes there. It is unconstitutional and not at all something which should be an agenda in a democracy.

As a tax payer I am outraged. I don't approve of many of the "only our religion is the right one" religious organizations. Seems many Americans agree since polls indicate a large number don't approve of our government's direction. That includes religious funding and agenda.

In my neighborhood there are big crosses on homes and front lawns for Xmas. Why? They want the commercialism of Xmas gone. They are more "religious". I hate to say it but crosses are for the death and suffering of Christ for our sins at Easter not to celebrate his birth. It should be a time of joy and love.

Congress people are falling all over themselves with religious agenda and message. They are disobeying their oath of office to defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic. Powerful religious organizations want democracy and freedom of other religion removed for their own self interest. This is a platform of our society and democracy that everyone can be free to think and worship as they like. It worked for over two hundred years without religious strife and wars...until now.

The war against Christmas is just another lie and propaganda from the White House Neo Cons. Power through fear and chaos (like taking away Christmas and killing unborn fetus). The elite don't have to be religious (only look and talk like it) but the masses have to be so they can be controlled (Leo Strauss on the elite should rule).

We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the
American public believes is false."
--- William Casey, Director CIA (Quote from internal staff meeting notes
1981)

William Casey died on 911 at the WTC after surviving the blast and then going back into the building to help others. Who says Bush is keeping us safe? These are issue and events we should be discussing not that Christmas is in danger. It's not. Our way of life and democracy is in danger.

The church organizations and their corruption may be the reason they need our tax dollars or they won't survive. Bush needs them for his Fascist state. I know one thing for sure, they aren't good citizens. They are distroying the democracy which made them wealthy and free.

The only action Americans who want their democracy and freedoms to survive should demand religious organizations who interfer in our government lose their tax free status. The Constitution does not give them that privilege which they have abused.

[flyingfysh]

7. Christmas has a first-class surveillance system

After all, Santa Claus has a huge list saying who's naughty and who's nice. How else would he know?

[mac2]

12. Santa's list

He'd know most our Congress and President have been very BAD!

[Perry Logan]

8. DEATH TO CHRISTMAS!

[flyingfysh]

9. Christmas has an air force

Would you really want to be around when 8 reindeer fly overhead?? Yuck! Given all the destinations they have to cover, their speed must be well above supersonic.

[mac2]

13. Air Force for Chritmas

Maybe the AirForce could have used Santa's radar to stop those planes on 911? Seems NORD failed or was ordered to stand down...the military guy in charge was promoted.

[Bitwit1234]

10. So since the goof balls can't explain how

Christmas started out as a "Pagan" celebration, and the celebrate it, we ought to ignore them and do the heck what we want to celebrate.

[mac2]

14. I agree

Many haven't even read their Bible. They certainly don't know the history of it and that there isn't just one Bible. King James "revised" it his way. He who has the money rules!

I read where they think Christ may have been born in the fall sometime. The Roman church changed the calendars, etc. So who knows?

[iamahaingttta]

15. Jeshua ben Joseph was an Aries.

Saturnalia is the celebration of the returning Sun.