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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 09:01 AM
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Poll question: Did Gore fight in 2000
for the Presidency after the election?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 09:07 AM
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1. No. And Dems didn't fight for him the way R's who hated Bush fought for him, such as Baker. nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 09:16 AM
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2. To the people voting that he didn't fight at all, I think
we live in different universes. And I don't think I imagined David Boies and the weeks and weeks of court battles.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 01:11 PM
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7. You gotta fight outside the lines too, and that's where the Reps beat us. nt
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 09:23 AM
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3. Having fucking Lieberman waving the white flag didn't help any.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 01:31 PM
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13. Absolutely true. I really wonder which side he was on even *BACK THEN*... (NT)
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 09:28 AM
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4. Well, of course Gore fought.
The case went to the Supreme Court. It isn't his fault it's packed to the hilt with right-wing knuckledraggers. It was the spineless piece of shit Democrats who refused to back a challenge AND the MSM for their constant drone of "let's move on" and "get over it." Need I remind everyone that KERRY even said, in 2003, "get over it" with regard to the 2000 stolen election. I don't know what else people expected him to do.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 09:30 AM
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5. Once the Supreme Court made its decision there was no where else to go
What did you expect, him to call people out into the streets to overthrow the evil Government?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 09:42 AM
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6. no. I believe he fought, albeit making some tactical errors, but
as I've just been informed on another thread that either he didn't fight at all, or that he took a deliberate fall, I was curious what others thought.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 01:26 PM
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10. What tactical error did he make?
To my knowledge he did everything within the law to fight this disputed election, because he respects the Constitution.

Anyone who says he didn't fight at all or took a deliberate fall is full of shit. He fought that disputed election longer than anyone else in history has ever fought an election.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:32 PM
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17. He pushed for selective recounts, for one.
The recount he wanted might not have given him the Presidency, while a statewide recount would have.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 04:31 PM
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22. The way I understand it, Florida State law didn't allow for a state wide recount,
only in the counties where they were having problems, although Al Gore did ask Bush twice to agree to a state wide recount. That was the case until the Florida Supreme Court ruled for a state wide recount, only to be immediately overruled by the U.S. Supreme Court.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 03:35 PM
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20. Gore had no way of knowing at the time...
as none of us did how badly he'd been punked. If he had, or if we had, perhaps calling people out into the streets would have seemed an appropriate course of action. It still hurts, and we'll be paying the price for a long time.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 01:17 PM
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8. Yes, and even though the Supreme Court stopped the counting
a group of several newspapers, including the New York Times, did conclude that he lost by about 500 votes, I think.

Now, there was a problem in Florida about a full access to the polls, mostly by minority, but I don't think that he could have done anything about that.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 01:30 PM
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12. The Time count was bogus
That count was based on only recounting 3 Florida counties and not the undervotes in the whole state which was the final order of the Florida courts and the re-count the Supreme Court stopped.

The Media Consortium hired the National Opinion Research Center to examine 175,010 ballots that were never counted in Florida. The investigation took 8 months and cost $900,000. No matter what standard for judging ballots is applied, Gore wins.

http://elandslide.org/display.cfm?id=181
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 01:19 PM
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9. He fought for weeks, all the way to the fucking Supreme Court.
He couldn't have fought any more, short of outright armed rebellion.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 01:29 PM
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11. How can anybody say he didn't fight--he took it all the way to the Supreme Court
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 01:30 PM by book_worm
I didn't like the decision but they are the final decision. I don't see how anybody could have done more than Gore did. Of course there are those on DU who would have advocated not following the court order and taking the mobs to the streets except there wouldn't have been any mobs. The 7 people who say he didn't fight at all on this poll (so far) are complete idiots.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 03:41 PM
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21. I thought that team bu$h took it to the Supreme Court?
:shrug: I believe Gore did all he could, but he was up against team bu$h, specifically James "the votes have been counted and recounted" Baker and the "Liberal" media. :banghead:
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 01:34 PM
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14. Gore made one fundamental mistake...

Instead of cherry picking just a few counties, he should have demanded that ALL of the counties ballots be recounted.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:28 PM
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15. WE didn't fight hard enough, but hindsight is 20/20...n/t
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:53 PM
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18. "Nobody was willing to take a bullet for Al Gore."
That's what a young anarchist buddy of mine said when I asked him for his thoughts on why the US coup succeeded and the attempted coup in Venezuela failed.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 03:33 PM
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19. The citizens of the U.S. really have no idea what tyranny looks like..
so it can walk up and smack us all in the face and we wouldn't know it. I guess that's exactly what happened.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:31 PM
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16. Yes, he did everything he could
Contesting the votes in Congress would not have done jack shit to change the outcome.
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