MSNBC reporting that fire was IN Cheney's offices. They're now talking about doc destruction

[Stinky The Clown]

Saying that 'sensitive materials' may have been damaged or lost.

These motherfuckers.

[Billy Burnett]

1. Building Seven?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBOel-LyJ_E

[Renew Deal]

2. There's video at CNN

http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream2

[Liberty Belle]

134. Not anymore - they killed the link.

Bastards.

[liberalnurse]

3. I saw this coming.

I think we all did.:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

56. Oops, sorry, all the documents have gone up in flames!!!!

melted hard drives, oh dear!

[Arkansas Granny]

183. That must be the modern day equivalent to "the dog ate my homework".

[The Doctor.]

167. Ultimately even that cloud has a silver lining...

At the very least it means they still fear the machinations of government. They do not have ful control, and that's a good thing.

[man4allcats]

184. Agreed.

As soon as I saw a headline yesterday linking the fire to Cheney's office area I knew what was coming. There are only two things as corrupt as the executive branch of this administration: the legislative branch and the judicial branch. Canada is looking better all the time.

[Didereaux]

4. ..and still DUers ask which Repug is the least loathsome!

[DIKB]

49. When the best of them

is still a racist, darwinian-capitalist (libertarian), who thinks the Civil Rights Act should never have been passed. . . it's like looking for the most edible morsel in a septic tank.

[yardwork]

103. I'm very sorry for your loss.

I noticed your signature line, and I assume that he was your brother, husband, or someone you loved. I'm sorry.

[barbtries]

144. great analogy

eh. perfectly apt.

[Cobalt-60]

165. mmmm Septic Truffles

Breakfast of Rovians

[Xipe Totec]

5. I am shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

:sarcasm:

[kitty1]

122. So these docs don't have back up copies somewhere in case

something like this happens. Nothing on disc stored away. Hard to believe they wouldn't have duplicates made of vital papers like this and put in another location.

[Canuckistanian]

127. Bushies don't believe in digital technologies

Analog is king. Paper is God. Too easy to make copies with digital technologies.

If erasable tapes and flammable paper were good enough for Nixon, then by GOD, it's good enough for us.

[DianaForRussFeingold]

148. Yeah, one would think they'd have backup copies, just in case...somewhere?

Say, maybe a cave :hide: you know, just for safe keeping... ;-)

[radfringe]

6. yeah, the shredder short circuited... n/t

[ProfessorGAC]

35. Nah! It Overheated!

There was no fault in the shredder. It's just got too hot from overuse.
The Professor

[radfringe]

53. and bush didn't know about it until he heard about it on the news....n/t

[ProfessorGAC]

55. LOL! Good One (eom)

.

[radfringe]

57. he'll probably refer to it as SHREDtaneous Combustation

[catmandu57]

106. Well you know those Chinese shredders

aren't the best, someone probably used a lighter gage wire to cut corners. I bet dead eye custom ordered the power cords.

[Deja Q]

118. Or maybe it was made in China!

:hide:

[katty]

97. Whoops, sorry Up in Smoke!! sorry, no evidence...o well

this is so obvious

[knitter4democracy]

116. That's exactly what I said when I saw this.

There was an electrical short. I'd bet the shredders did it.

[spanone]

7. perfect!!!! you can hear them now....'sorry documents were destroyed in fire'.

[bullwinkle428]

8. Just heard Secret Service is stopping fire investigators from

examining the area! :mad:

(as heard on the Stephanie Miller show)

[fed-up]

15. I was hoping some patriotic firefighters would accidentally retrieve some documents nt

[Javaman]

28. sorry no, these "firefighters" were no doubt handpicked by moron* and/or chaney. nt

[Virginia Dare]

47. It seemed like every firefighter in the city was called out..

there was a constant stream of trucks heading that way for over 1/2 an hour.

[Javaman]

72. Oh I'm sure...

but having been a fireman, I know for a fact that any government building fire of any sort is always investigated and for the secret service to put a halt to an investigation is completely suspicious.

they know.

[Virginia Dare]

88. There are functioning fireplaces in that building..

I'm not sure if they are still used or not, but it would be an easy explanation. Of course a "few" file boxes may have been "sitting too close" to the fire.

[Javaman]

91. ...

dickhead: errrr, flunky, move that storage box over there, it's in my way...

flunky: yes, mr vp...ummm...

dickhead: what is it now?

flunky: isn't that a little close to the fireplace?

dickhead: look, I say it's in my way and you move it, okay?

flunky: yes, sir...

the flunky moves the heavy storage box.

flunky: ooff!

dickhead: a little more...

flunky: but sir...

dickhead: shut the fuck up, move it!

flunky: yes, sir...

dickhead: a little more...

flunky, begins to say something but thinks better of it. He shoves the box.

dickhead: just a little more...good!

flunky: oh my god!! It's on fire!!! I'll get an extinguisher!!!

dickhead: the hell you will, those documents are toast there is no saving them now. heh heh..

flunky: you're laughing?

dickhead: never confuse laughing with rejoicing, you fool!! they are almost crisp...now you may call the fire dept! hahahahaha!!!!

flunky: you really are darth vader aren't you?

dickhead: thank you!

[Supersedeas]

99. the source of the fire may never be known

[HowHasItComeToThis]

130. I EXPECT THE MOST LOATHESOME ACTIONS

[Tansy_Gold]

9. Who gets to be the first to say

Reichstag?

[Clark2008]

14. I do, apparently.

I said it here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2496516&mesg_id=2496581

[Javaman]

29. Like someone actually needs to say it anymore...nt

[MountainLaurel]

104. Missed my chance, it seems

But I bet most of the people who know what the term means are thinking it.

[IDemo]

10. Somehow apropos for this crew to attempt to burn down the White House n/t

[LeftHander]

11. I believe Arson qualifies as a "high crime".....nt

[bdamomma]

66. destroying evidence would that count as an impeachable offense.

SOB's.

[ExPatLeftist]

162. Of course not!

There is only ONE impeachable offense - and that is getting a consensual blowjob...

[redqueen]

12. There's nothing they won't do to avoid being caught. They are criminals.

I wonder when we'll start treating them as such.

[Virginia Dare]

13. Would they stoop that low? Of course they would!

MOTHERFUCKING CRIMINALS!!!!:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[aquart]

16. Did the shredder short out?

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

170. His dog was sick...

or he's doing the Adkins thing. Whatever.

[tridim]

17. Is The Dick pulling a "Milton"?

[Dawggie]

101. Hey. I want that red stapler!

[Divine Discontent]

140. you can get your own...

or something like it... lol
http://www.cafepress.com/mystapler


ya know, hearing this story just screams criminality! They KNOW we know they're destroying documents, but they're doing it because they know if they don't their asses are grass - hello senators & congressional reps - can we PLEASE get high crimes hearing to at least LOOK into this awful mess!?

[Echo In Light]

18. Recall Ollie North talking about "shredding" during Iran/Contra cover up n/t

[helderheid]

19. WTF?

[madokie]

20. you reckon they the congress critters will wake up to whats going on now,

but something tells me not though

[Javaman]

31. oh look brittneys sister is prego!!

:banghead:

[tridim]

36. The BFEE is the only family more fucked up than the Spears family

TMZ should set up operations in DC.

[WinkyDink]

37. And DU has a thread about it!

[tavalon]

150. You think they don't know already, haven't known for quite a while?

That's precious, so sweet and innocent. I miss those days.

[Stinky The Clown]

21. Funny, ain't it? Bush's TANG records were also "destroyed by fire"

They've run **this** scam before.

These people make the Mafia look playful.

[SpiralHawk]

25. "Smirk, smirk, smirk." - Commander AWOL

[sinkingfeeling]

22. I call for an arson investigation! This administration makes me long for the crimes of Nixon!

[Virginia Dare]

26. Isn't that so depressingly true?

After Nixon we all thought no White House could be more loathesomely criminal. How wrong we were. Like cockroaches, they just went underground for a while.

[defendandprotect]

45. No --- after the pardon, it was obvious that things weren't going to be straightened out ---

Nixon was just ONE of those criminals who have occupied the WH and provided cover-ups.
He's the only one who they would have permitted to succeed LBJ --

[Virginia Dare]

46. It's been a slippery slope since JFK's murder...

the question is, when do we get to the bottom? Is this it? I certainly hope we can't get any lower, but you never know.

[defendandprotect]

60. Well, they're aging -- Arlen Specter still with us; should be in jail--!!

..but as we can see from Shrub, the younger generation is moving up and perhaps even more
brutal and ignorant than what we've had before?

Cheney and Rumsfeld, I presume, are the originals ---

As we can see now --- only Nixon could have succeeded LBJ --

Had RFK made it -- or later, Muskie, McGovern we might have been able to investigate and move these people out.

Things have just gotten way more complicated as the criminal acts and the need for coverups has grown.

Now we're dealing with the threat of a privatized military!!!

[coalition_unwilling]

109. It's been a slippery slope since Lincoln's assassination, imho. I tend

to take the Gore Vidal "long view" though.

[ooglymoogly]

128. Bingo that is when our government lost all credibility

by not asking any hard questions and just let it slide...murder most foul...and the interminable cover up after cover up. The shadows have gotten very practiced at it....they seem to realize they are to unspeakable for any anyone to speak about and will never really delve for the horrendous truth.

[bdamomma]

67. Cheney has been planning this for a long time

isn't it way past the time to impeach his a$$.

[FVZA_Colonel]

As much as I was shocked by this claim when I first heard of it, the crimes of the Bush

Administration are truly worse then Watergate. For all of Nixon's paranoia, megalomania, and downright evil policies even he was never so reckless with national security at its most basic level.

[FVZA_Colonel]

93. Self Delete.

Accidental double post.

[Beetwasher]

23. This Was Predictable

Like clockwork.

[tavalon]

151. Yep, Reichstag, check.

When is the night of the long knives. Damn, don't these cockroaches know any other playbooks?

[thereismore]

24. I bet the fire was inside his man-sized safe. That mo-fo. Independent Prosecutor Now! nt

[Javaman]

27. LOLOLOLOL!!!

I guess pelosi and reid need to have it engraved on a bronze plaque that chaney needs to be impeached.

I've gone passed pissed to being amused at the comical absurdity of the whole situation.

[Beetwasher]

30. Indeed, It's Beyond Beyond At This Point. It's Farcical In It's Obviousness

It's a cartoon. This can't be reality, no one would beieve it.

[Vilis Veritas]

176. Reminds me of this quote...

"Life doesn't imitate art, it imitates bad television."

Woody Allen...

[me b zola]

32. That was the first thing that I thought of when I heard about the fire

...and I imagine that 95% of DUers thought the same.

[MidwestTransplant]

33. Shredder overheated.

[Marr]

34. How can they block fire investigators? This very well could be the scene of a serious crime.

Arson is a crime with serious consequences.

[tridim]

40. Blocking an investigation is a crime as well, no?

Start arresting Secret Service.

[tbyg52]

186. Since when has this gang suffered any consequences for blocking anything?

Always hoping for a miracle, though.

[Vinca]

38. Cheney should have known they needed an asbestos-lined trash can. nt

[The Backlash Cometh]

39. No effing way will I believe this was an accident.

Time to confiscate his mansize vault.

[Rambis]

41. Maybe he spontaneously combusted

devils do that you know:evilgrin:

[Reader Rabbit]

81. Nah, Satan stopped by to check in on his minion.

He got pissed when Cheney wasn't there and farted sparks.

[flyarm]

42. color me not surprised..i thought of that immediately..and the friday court date..

..by the White House Attorney's..hell these bastards have killed over 1 million people and destroyed mesapetomia..what is a building that is only from the 1800's..big deal to them..and remember they have refused to give docs to the National Archive..they don't give a rats ass about anything but covering their own criminal asses.

fly

[WorseBeforeBetter]

177. Exactly. WTF cares about the Cradle of Civilization?!

That's one point I always go back to with any wingnuts I encounter--the destruction of Mesopotamia. Their response is usually along the lines of "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Eye-ran." And as long as the Maladministration's collective asses are saved, the OEOB means nothing to them, either.

[Junkdrawer]

43. Now..let's not make DU look silly...

just because Cheney's office catches fire when it looks like he might lose a court fight to keep the documents secret is NO reason to suspect that there was deliberate document destruction.

After all, Cheney is just a humble civil servant trying to serve the American People as honestly as he...

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Sorry....I just couldn't keep in character...can I try that again?

[momster]

74. Take 42...Roll 'Em!

Sure, Junkdrawer. Take all the time you need. We know it's a tough line to say with a straight face.

God, I miss the Daily Show!

[tavalon]

152. I say go for it.

You had it until the middle of the first sentence. Give it another go!

[defendandprotect]

44. Right --- It's Cheney starting to pack up and he's probably taking the advice he gave Nixon ---

put all the tapes on the front lawn of the White House and burn them!!!

[balantz]

48. It's just fucking amazing watching this cabal at work.

[Le Taz Hot]

50. Reichstag anyone?

:scared:

[kineneb]

113. great minds...exactly my first thought, as well n/t

[rockybelt]

51. Right now on MSNBC

The crawler says that the Secret Service says there is no sign that the fire was intentionally set. WTF is the secret service doing investigating the cause of a fire. Oh yeah, they're experts at that sort of thing aren't they? They just accidentally poured gasoline in a shredder and damned if it wasn't struck by lightning. Damned the luck.

I can hear the shooter now telling Congress he was just getting all those emails and memos packed up and ready to deliver them. Damned the luck

Come on Kucinich and Wexler, get those impeachment papers printed on asbestos and start the process today!

[spanone]

52. how would they know at this point?

[Lone_Star_Dem]

64. When they checked Cheney's hands he wasn't holding a can of gasoline?

This early on that would be about all they've had time to investigate.

[rockybelt]

94. You think they may be covering something up?

Nah! This forthright administration wouldn't do anything like that would they? Nah:shrug:

[tavalon]

155. Perish the thought!

What would make you think something so, so , er, treasonous?

[tavalon]

154. How did they know the 19 hijackers so quickly?

They play us like were stupid.

[Wednesdays]

168. Unfortunately, there are enough Americans who ARE that stupid.

:cry:

[WorseBeforeBetter]

179. Didn't they claim to recover one of the hijackers' passports?

Who in God's name would believe that a paper passport could survive that inferno? Oh, wait... I know the answer to this one...

[hisownpetard]

54. I'll bet they interviewed the firefighters to make sure they were Bushies, before letting them

near the scene.

This is getting too surreal.

[rucognizant]

163. Of course!

I remember hearing, yesterday, that the firefighters had to be Accompaniesd by secret service which slowed the process of fighting the fire initially!

[Bluebear]

58. "We were JUST organizing everything to comply with the subpoenas too!!!"

I can hear it already.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

59. The San Diego fires started in Portreo, where Blackwater wants their

training grounds. Where the city counsel was facing recall for allowing Blackwater to come in. Where, after the fires, that city counsel was recalled anyway (by paper ballot), and a new anti-Blackwater board is now in place. Portreo is a pretty conservative place; very quiet, laid back, with tough, back country folk living there.

I wouldn't put anything past the Neo-Cons in the frantic efforts to hang onto power. Fires, mysterious deaths (Pat Tillman), memory loss, lost documents). Desperate people without consciences are capable of horrific things.

[bdamomma]

61. what thugs destroying evidence isn't that an impeachable offense?

[tavalon]

158. Who ya gonna impeach?

The mean old fire? Plausible deniability.

[undeterred]

62. I'm surprised a plane didn't fly into it by accident.

[tavalon]

159. Who could ever imagine that a fire could destroy important documents,

irreplaceable documents!:eyes:

[debbierlus]

63. Disgusting.....How fucking OBVIOUS can you be?????

It is pathetic. These people are the WORST kind of criminals. And, that is what they are...through & through

EVER crime under the sun. And, what do they get for it. Driving around in limos with every perk in the world as they
plot more destruction.

And, the American people just scratch their heads? What can we do? There are only 300 million of us & a thousand of them.

Surreal.

[bdamomma]

69. I find your last comment most telling,

"There are only 300 million of us & a thousand of them".


we could cause some damage couldn't we??? oops, just thinking out loud.........sigh

[rockybelt]

96. Ve do not like for you to think, peasant

You vill do vhat ve say!

[progressoid]

65. Shredders overheated and caught fire.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

68. Couldn't manufacture some Arabs and an airplane in time I guess.

Fucking crooks.

[havocmom]

119. There's still time for them to find a passport or two

belonging to suspected terrorists.

[Ezlivin]

70. Don't worry! They'll assign the crack investigators who worked on the Anthrax Attacks

They've got the "best" men on the job, no doubt.

Hell, in a couple of decades we'll hear about the results of their exhaustive investigation.

[tridim]

75. TOP... men.

It doesn't matter what the official exuse will eventually be, it's obvious to me that Cheney is among other things, an arsonist. That's what we've come to.

[Ezlivin]

80. Firestarter 2: This time it's executive privilege

N/T

[bbgrunt]

71. holy smoke

[tridim]

77. Naw, holy smoke is what comes out of Huckster's ass. nt

[Arugula Latte]

73. No words ... No way to grasp their perfidy.

:wow:

[OneGrassRoot]

76. You have GOT to be shitting me. Would even they be that obvious??? n/t

[bdamomma]

78. they have been getting away with shit for a long time

do you think these thugs even care anymore, and when will they be confiscated and rounded up as criminals, that is the question, until someone does it, they will keep on doing their dirty illegal crimes.

[magellan]

114. Sometimes the best place to hide a thing is in the open

Do that and most everyone thinks "It must be coincidence. They'd never be THAT obvious!"

Oh yes they would.

[tavalon]

160. Apparently, yes.

Frankly it scares me how very little they are trying to cover up their shit these days. They're barely even phoning it in.

[tridim]

79. Took a hit for the team and visited FR..

There is no late breaking news thread about the fire.

Now why in the world would FR not want to discuss this event? Hmmm.

[Bigmack]

82. Fire Update!

News sources report that immediately before the fire, VP Cheney's dog broke into his office and ate all the relevant transcripts.

[debbierlus]

85. Too funny!

:rofl:

[Sean Stuart]

83. This fire might have been caused by terrorists.

Can I have my own Fox show now?

[opihimoimoi]

84. "Evidence??? What evidence.....All we know is we had a FIRE...."

",,,,,and it was,,,,TOO EASY".............

[alfredo]

86. His ceremonial office, not his work office.

[Occulus]

102. Perfect place to "store" something he doesn't want in the WH, parhaps? n/t

[alfredo]

107. If they still had incriminating evidence, then they are not very good

criminals. Remember, it only took Ollie North 24 hours to shred all the evidence in Iran Contra. Meese gave him 24 hours after his announcement of the investigation before he moved to secure the evidence. How long has the three successive AG's given the bush junta?

[KitchenWitch]

87. Those "people" are brazen.

Please let those people get what they so richly deserve.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

164. won't happen, Kit.

their very aggressive, brazen approach scares the shit out of our democratic leaders. The problem is not that they have goals and will do anything to get there, it is that our leadership has the collective spine of freshly over-cooked Flying Spaghetti Monster, but without the meatballs.

[book_worm]

89. Oh, what a coincidence!

[chemenger]

90. As the Church Lady (Dana Carvey) would say

"Well, isn't that special?"

Is the fire department going to investigate the site for possible arson? And where was Dick Cheney around the time the fire started?

Why wasn't Georgie forbidden to play with matches?

[immoderate]

92. They don't have sprinklers?

How quaint...

--IMM

[marmar]

95. SHOCKING...SHOCKING I TELL YA!

And watch them MSM lap up the spoonfed bullshit like bottom-dwelling fish.

[kineneb]

98. Reichstag Feuer, wieder mal?

Wouldn't put it past the bastards.

[malaise]

100. And you are surprised because

:shrug:???

[zanne]

105. HE HAD A METH LAB? nt

[Mme. Defarge]

108. Other possibilities ...

1) Dick actually didn't survive his recent medical procedure and they had to do something with the body, or

2) Premature cremation?

[BrklynLiberal]

110. What a revolting development this is! I am sure that only the most incriminating documents happened

to be near where the fire started....a mere coincidence, no doubt.:wtf:

[hunter]

111. Remember the Hoover administration, 1929...

The last real bonfire was way back in 1929 on Christmas Eve, when the West Wing was gutted by a massive conflagration. President Herbert Hoover had to leave his Christmas party to oversee the removal of important papers from the Oval Office. (But the Marine Band played on, and the First lady kept the party going.)

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1696435,00.html

Merry Christmas!

[Lugnut]

112. I'm shocked

:sarcasm:

K&R

[walldude]

115. Pardon me while I go find the guy who thought everyone was

being paranoid..

[havocmom]

117. If we are really just tin foil fools, there would be catastrophies and accidents

that didn't benefit cheney, at least once in awhile. When they all go in his favor....

Reminds me of a cheating cheapskate I once worked for. Every two weeks, on payday, at least one of the staff had their check shorted. When asked about the errors, the boss always feigned innocence and eventually fixed the shortage, but the error was ALWAYS in his favor.

He even looked like cheney.

[mountainvue]

120. As soon as I heard about the fire that

was the first thing that crossed my mind. What's this motherfucker trying to get rid of now?

[Sam Ervin jret]

121. WHAT? WEREN'T ALL THE IMPORTANT PAPERS in the MAN SIZE SAFE?

Or hadn't the V.P. emptied the bodies from the weeks work to make room?

[Donnachaidh]

123. anybody check that fat fucker for a zippo?

I'll bet they'll find liquid accellerants. :grr:

[City Lights]

124. How conveeenient.

:nuke:

[DCKit]

125. Beats the HELL out of "But Ms. Pelosi, the dog ate my homework." n/t

[Pacifist Patriot]

126. My assumption from the first prelimary reporting of the incident.

[Raster]

129. only a fool would not see something like this coming. cheney*/bush* will spend their last days

...in office "sanitizing" anything and everything incriminating. And if the bush* family is true to form, we can expect some very suspicious "suicides" to go along with the fires, shredding, accidental deletion, claims of national security and executive privilege. Anything to obscure evidence and make it harder to prosecute.

[TankLV]

131. Wow - just ANOTHER amazing COINCIDENCE that BENEFITS the WAR CRIMINALS!

Just simply astonding...

I'm way past demanding impeachment - I want to see the whole gang swinging at the end of a rope like Mussolini

[Initech]

132. Words cannot describe my hatred for Bush and Cheney.

And yet the media will focus instead on Britney Spears' sister getting pregnant. :banghead:

[mwb970]

161. I despise both of them with all my heart.

These two are by far the worst crooks I've seen in the White House during my lifetime - and Truman was president when I was born! The fact that they have been able to get away with every single thing they have wanted to do as a stunned nation just sits and watches as if it were something on TV is absolutely infuriating. Pure evil, acting in the open for seven years and counting, with nothing whatsoever done about it by anyone anywhere.

We can't impeach. We can't outvote. We can't override. And so this sociopathic, deeply sick administration, representing a small minority of (un-)Americans, just rolls on and on year after year, destroying everything in its path. It's maddening.

[Arugula Latte]

133. No one could have predicted they'd do ANYTHING to cover their asses.

:grr:

[ScooterFibby]

135. Check out this photo of Cheney - that's a guilty smile...

// Flames did not reach Mr. Cheney's office but it sustained smoke and water damage, according to his spokeswoman, Megan Mitchell. He usually works inside the White House itself.

Fire Department spokesman Alan Etter said smoke was coming from telephone or electrical equipment, but the cause of the fire was not yet known. There was no indication of terrorism. //

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/story.html?id=183933

[goclark]

136. The terrorist was Cheney nt

[tabasco]

137. Anybody that doesn't realize the Bush admin is a criminal syndicate

is stupid as a box of rocks.

[Mnemosyne]

138. I'm surprised the dick didn't wait 24 hours to report it. n/t

[Hidden Stillness]

139. WHY is There NO Democratic Response to ANY of Their Destruction of Evidence?

When does destruction of evidence finally become an impeachable offense, again? They showed the fire on "Countdown," with that annoying guest host, and the flames were so powerful and raging, that you know it must have been made up of thousands of papers...The line they all gave for the cause of the fire was "faulty electrical wiring," and so apparently, the one room was wired completely differently than was the rest of the building, or maybe only that one room in the whole building had electricity, or, something. I just heard something a few days ago about the huge increase of the number of paper shredders used by the Bush White House, and the huge increase--by the millions--of the number of papers shredded and destroyed, many times the number of any other Administration, but I can't remember the exact multiple of the increase.

They do not even bother to cover up or disguise these things anymore, because nothing will ever happen to Harry Reid's "dear Republican friends." One laptop computer after another with the personal information of millions of people, is "stolen" from this or that Department, then--magically--it reappears; hugely unlikely if it were really stolen by a non-Administration person. Then, when Rove has all the data, it is "found" again. How many computers, with all their data, have there been, alone? How many millions of secret-classified documents, that were publicly available before? How many break-ins to the computer messages of Democrats and their staffs, such as when the break-in at Sen. Dick Durbin's computer was traced back to McConnell, Republican leader of the Senate? Destroyed videotapes of CIA torture; blacked-out sections of the Sept. 11 report, complete refusal to testify at Committee hearings on all topics, every topic. Isn't complete and total destruction of evidence, and no explanation obstruction, and impeachable?

[TechBear_Seattle]

173. What?! You expect them to challenge the Junta?!

You are either woefully ignorant of the current Democratic "leadership" or just plain :crazy: .

[darthchaosofrspw]

141. Cheneygate?

One could only hope for the Dick Tator to be impeached and sent to Alcatraz (of course Alcatraz would have to be re-opened).

[FREEWILL56]

142. That's about as good as my dog ate it.

They are responcible to keep them and provide them when asked to do so. It can be said that if they weren't playing games in the first place and coughed them up then this fire wouldn't have done anything and there's no proof of that being the case either.
edit to add:
Add charges of contempt and obstruction of justice too.

[SlingBlade]

143. Democratic Underground Makes the LA Times

WASHINGTON -- A fire in an electrical closet near Vice President Dick Cheney's ceremonial office forced the evacuation Wednesday of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building next door to the White House -- and sparked Internet chatter speculating on nefarious activities in the vice presidential suite.

The vice president was in the White House West Wing when the fire broke out about 9:15 a.m., White House officials said.

The fire was contained to the closet, but the elaborate floor of mahogany, white maple and cherry in the vice president's office was under water, White House Press Secretary Dana Perino said. Thick black smoke "fairly filled" the second through fifth floors, she said. It billowed from an open doorway and cast a pall across the White House's north lawn.

Perino was conducting a briefing for reporters, taking questions about the CIA's destruction of videotaped interrogations, when firetrucks arrived next door. Smoke was pouring through a corridor of the Eisenhower building, and flames on the second floor could be seen briefly from the White House grounds.

Almost as quickly, the fire took on a political cast.

The website Democratic Underground lit up with comments and questions from readers: "Too many documents to shred," nradisic posted at 9:48 a.m. "What records are being 'cleaned up?' " asked Botany, two minutes later. "What all is going up in smoke?" asked gratuitous, at 9:53 a.m. :toast:

Read More:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-fire20dec20,1,4485454.story?coll=la-news-politics-national

[Swamp Rat]

146. Geaux nradisic, Botany, and gratuitous!!!

:applause:




:D

[sakabatou]

147. w00t! Free press!

[Stewie]

185. Why the beer clinking?

They're obviously making fun of DU. They post the DU comments, and back them up with a "humorist," a conservative calling them insane and then an "official" statement noting no documents were lost.

[Tatiana]

187. Great job, DU! n/t

[barbtries]

145. he'll do anything

to stay out of jail. break any law. burn down the white house. blow up the world. the man is crazy. it astounds me that he continues to hold office let alone is allowed on the street.

[rambler_american]

149. Above the law, beneath contempt

The lack of integrity is matched only by the lack of shame. They don't even care that we KNOW they are crooks, because they destroy evidence with impunity. These people are all about destruction...WTC, Constitution, reputations and lives of their critics, any and all evidence of their actions. And nobody can do a damn thing about it. It's time, people. Grab pitchforks and torches and descend on DC.

[tavalon]

153. They really do think we're that gullible

The sad thing is, there are about 30% of this godforsaken American populace who is just that stupid, or distracted.

[Tyler Durden]

156. Yes. They do.

[radfringe]

157. my theory - shredder overheated... n/t

[many a good man]

166. Great Oliphant cartoon!

[paparush]

169. Pelosi now has another out..Impeachment can't be on the table if the table burned to ashes...

[whistle]

171. "...fire was IN Cheney's offices", exactly how many offices does Cheney have?

...And where are these offices? And why would sensitive records from Cheney's offices not be periodically taken to secure storage vaults where they would not be open to wanton destruction? :wtf:

[yellowcanine]

172. Tricky Dick Nixon is cackling from his corner of hell.

[HeeBGBz]

174. What blatant bullshit

I bet the asshole gets away with it.

[graywarrior]

175. He's practicing for when he burns in hell.

Bastard.

[npincus]

178. I'm sure Veep is disappointed there were no casualties.

[nightrain]

180. hope those firefighters were also looking for "Un-American, suspicious materials" nt

[focusfan]

181. thats what i thought when I heard it on the news

i know they burned that office to cover something up. 

[Pierre.Suave]

182. I said it before and I will say it again...

Give me the Marines, and I will clean up this entire mess.

That is the only way.