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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:29 AM
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I love older computers, and was looking at...
Wikipedias entry on ENIAC- the beast that started it all. What caught my interest was the original programmers. Who ever said girls can't do math is full of it. Scroll down to "Programmibility" and read about the 6 original programmers of the origninal computer. There is a link for all six.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:35 AM
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1. I once worked
for a lady who was one of the programmers on the Whirlwind machine ... Ellie was her name. Smart. Tough. Really a very cool person.

Whirlwind Computer
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:37 AM
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2. If you ever get to San Francisco
their museum of science has an awesome "Evolution of the CPU" display (at least I assume they still have it, I haven't been for a few years) where they have CPU's lined up under a magnifier, in chronological order, so you can see exactly how each generation of processor got smaller and faster. It's an impressive exhibit that has stayed with me for a long time..
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:44 AM
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3. Want to buy a KayPro 2X?
I have one you can have, if you want it
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:45 AM
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4. Not really...
but if you got an Apple IIc maybe we can talk :)
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:58 AM
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6. not sure what my uncle had, but
it sure was an old mac.
wonder if he still has it.
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intheozone Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:15 AM
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9. I have one of the old Apples,
I can't remember the name of it. It is the one with the computer and 9inch moniter in one, has its own carrying case. I think it is from the late 80s or early 90s. It still runs as far as I know. Of course, I haven't had it one for a while, I have it in storage.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:27 AM
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10. We got an Apple II keeping company with the toilet paper rolls
In the bathroom closet.
Seriously. Circa 1980 maybe???

You can't live without it?
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:28 AM
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11. How about an Apple II+?
Two Big (140K) floppy drives and a honking 64K of RAM. Still have it and the original box it came in.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:49 AM
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5. In 1843 Augusta Ada King, Countess of Lovelace, wrote the first computer program
"Ada was one of the few people who fully understood Babbage's ideas and created a program for the Analytical Engine. Had the Analytical Engine ever actually been built, her program would have been able to calculate a sequence of Bernoulli numbers. Based on this work, Lovelace is now widely credited with being the first computer programmer."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:58 AM
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7. I'm a latecomer to computers,
but I post these for y'all, who have been in on this from the grass roots...salute!




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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:33 AM
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12. lmao!
:P

Too funny!

My SIL is a programmer and earns great money.

I could barely get past Basic let alone Basic II. :(

BUT I did earn a degree in Computer Technical Support...

and I'm a 'gurl'! :D
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:12 AM
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8. And let's not forget Grace Hopper - my heroine
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 01:18 AM by RamboLiberal
Rear Admiral Grace Murray Hopper (December 9, 1906 – January 1, 1992) was an American computer scientist and United States Navy officer. A pioneer in the field, she was one of the first programmers of the Harvard Mark I calculator, and she developed the first compiler for a computer programming language.<1> Because of the breadth of her accomplishments and her naval rank, she is sometimes referred to as "Amazing Grace".

In 1943 she joined the U.S. Naval Reserve on active duty and was assigned to work with Howard Aiken on the Mark I Calculator. At the end of the war she was separated from active duty with the Navy, remaining in the reserves, but she continued to work on the development of the Mark II and the Mark III calculators (early computers). It was while she was working on Mark II that technicians discovered a moth in a relay — a bug in the computer. Hopper pasted it into a log book (now in the National Museum of American History at the Smithsonian Institution), noting it as the first actual case of a bug being found.<3><4> Erroneously, some have cited this incident as the genesis of the term bug, but the term was already in wide use.<5>

She later returned to the Navy where she worked on validation software for the programming language COBOL and its compiler. COBOL was defined by the CODASYL committee which extended her FLOW-MATIC language with some ideas from the IBM equivalent, the COMTRAN. However, it was her idea that programs could be written in a language that was close to English rather than in machine code or languages close to machine code (such as assembly language), which is how it was normally done at that time. It is fair to say that COBOL was based very much on her philosophy.

In the 1970s, she pioneered the implementation of standards for testing computer systems and components, most significantly for early programming languages such as FORTRAN and COBOL. The Navy tests for conformance to these standards led to significant convergence among the programming language dialects of the major computer vendors. In the 1980s, these tests (and their official administration) were assumed by the National Bureau of Standards (NBS), known today as the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_hopper





Myself I trained and started as a computer programmer back in 1971 when punch cards still dominated. In fact a revolution to me was the 96 column card and the new "mini" computers like the IBM System 3. My best programming teacher was a woman who was with Control Data. Yet in 71 I had to look for jobs under male help wanted. Once I got a foot in the door it was no problem from then on to get a job on the minis since there were a ton of small - medium businesses who were getting their first computers and needed programmers like myself to program their business applications. And it's strange that it's still somewhat of an industry that is still somewhat dominated by men. Maybe now its the geek factor.

System 3 and 96 column card.





For mass storage, the System/3 used a single-platter disk, roughly the size of a large pizza; initially each platter held 2.5 MB of data. Standard configuration for storage was one or two fixed disks, each in a separate pull-out drawer, which typically held the operating system and user-developed programs. Additionally, each fixed disc could have a removable cartridge disk attached; these typically contained the data-files associated with various applications, for example Payroll, and users frequently had a number of them. Thus the low-end systems could support a maximum of 10 MB of online storage (two fixed, 2 removable), although in practice this was very expensive and not always common.

Offline storage was available with the purchase of an external tape drive which read and wrote standard IBM tape content.

System printing was typically via line printers or bi-directional dot matrix printers. A modified selectric typewriter was often used as a console.

The System/3 came standard with a RPG II compiler, and used a version of Job Control Language called OCL.

The System/3 and successor models (System/32, System/34, System/36 and System/38, then the AS/400 and iSeries) are generally referred to as minicomputers or in IBM terminalogy "midrange systems"—in contrast to IBM's more traditional large mainframes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System/3

I remember we had stacks of those pizza platter disks and how you had to squeeze to get all the info you wanted on them. I ocassionally marvel that my cell phone has more storage than stacks of those pizza platters.
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