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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:23 PM
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"Huckabee Stands by Christmas Ad"...He denies the cross in the ad is a cross! It's a BOOKSHELF!
:rofl: So, he's a LIAR TOO! The cross isn't a cross! Bill Donahue is the one upset about this and speaking out!:rofl: OMG....this is too much.:rofl:


Huckabee Stands by Christmas Ad

Republican Presidential hopeful, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee takes qu...
By LIZ AUSTIN PETERSON, AP
3 hours ago

HOUSTON — Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee on Tuesday defended his Christmas ad amid suggestions that the ordained Baptist minister had gone too far mixing religion and politics.

The ad, which is airing in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, shows Huckabee in front of a Christmas tree as he says, "Are you about worn out by all the television commercials you've been seeing, mostly about politics? Well, I don't blame you. At this time of year sometimes it's nice to pull aside from all of that and just remember that what really matters is the celebration of the birth of Christ and being with our family and friends."

Huckabee is courting evangelical voters and other religious conservatives in his bid to win the Iowa caucuses Jan. 3. In Texas for a fundraiser, he said the ad was a harmless holiday greeting even though it excludes other religions.

"If we are so politically correct in this country that a person can't say enough of the nonsense with the political attack ads could we pause for a few days and say Merry Christmas to each other then we're really, really in trouble as a country," Huckabee said.

Catholic League president Bill Donahue said Huckabee went beyond wishing people a joyous holiday. Donahue said he was especially disturbed by the cross-like image created by a white bookcase in the background of the ad, saying he believed it was a subliminal message.

"What he's trying to say to the evangelicals in western Iowa (is): I'm the real thing," Donahue said Tuesday on Fox News Channel's "Fox and Friends. "You know what, sell yourself on your issues, not on what your religion is."

Huckabee said the bookshelf is just a bookshelf and shrugged off the controversy: "I will confess this: If you play the spot backwards it says, 'Paul is dead. Paul is dead.'"

He was joking about the Beatles' recording of "The White Album" and the urban legend that if a portion of the album is played backwards, the words "Paul is dead" is heard, a reference to the very much alive Paul McCartney.

http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/politics/2007/12/18/Huckabee.Christmas.Ad/
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:25 PM
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1. Huck and Donahue are both wackazoids. n/t
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:26 PM
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2. Riiiiight
:eyes:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:29 PM
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3. Can anyone post the pic in question?
I haven't seen it..
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:36 PM
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6. Neither have I, but i found this...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:36 PM
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7. Here's the ad link:
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:46 PM
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9. here
the soft lens and lighting makes it almost look like a burning cross.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:05 PM
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15. scary pic
"convert or die, heathen"

ugh.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:19 AM
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32. What's the difference anyway? He pulls Christ out of his pocket enough already
Fucking asshole. Another religious faker.
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CPschem Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:31 PM
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4. what a liar
n/t
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:32 PM
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5. why should anyone complain, the republican convention platform was
embedded with christian imagery.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:42 PM
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8. He's running for President of the United States, not President of Southern wacko nut job
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 10:43 PM by in_cog_ni_to
Evangelical Baptist Christians. He just alienated 70% of the country with that ad. Why shouldn't people complain? I thought it was insulting. Not everyone celebrates the birth of Christ or Christmas. He's an idiot.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:52 PM
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10. I stared at the picture for a solid 2 minutes. It was freaky and I had a mental
image of the Huckster that was VERY disturbing. He is a very scary man.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:54 PM
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11. LOL....I know. He makes my skin crawl.
:scared:
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:57 PM
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12. Like a malevolent Jim Nabors......
:puke:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:59 PM
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13. If Jim Nabors and Kevin Spacey had a baby
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:02 PM
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14. That's gonna haunt me......
:rofl:
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:07 PM
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16. sorry sometimes a bookshelf is just a bookshelf
I don't see it

and I'm also sorry-the Paul is dead line is way funny
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DUgosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:17 PM
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20. I thought it was a window pane
But Kevin Spacey and window panes reminded me of that scence from the American Beauty Movie.... so much for subliminal messages.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:18 PM
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21. It is very clearly subliminal imagery
Did you watch the video? It jumps out at you. Huckabee and his director knew exactly what they were doing.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:36 PM
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25. yeah I did and I paid close attention to it
it didn't jump out


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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:32 AM
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33. One doesn't even need to pay close attention to it. nt
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:01 AM
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28. They certainly did know what they were doing and now they won't own up to it.
He's outright lying in the faces of everyone who has watched the damn ad and saw the cross! How could so many people see that image and be wrong?:eyes:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:09 AM
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29. One cannot help but see it - it's VERY disturbing...
NOTHING is done by accident...

for him to say it's just coincidence is assinine...

this was well planned and thought out from the get go...
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:11 AM
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30. I must say I agree
Though the lighting may raise some eyebrows.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:39 AM
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35. We're talking about a target audience who believes angels appear on toast.
Not to mention the fact that he says "Christ" in the ad.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:41 AM
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38. Nothing in a politcal ad is 'accidental'
Think of the millions that are spent to air it
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:07 PM
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17. a man without a concious is a scary thing
a man with a concious but one that is subverted and has perverted the meaning of religion and of humanity is a dangerous one. One kills without thought. One kills with rightious conviction.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:08 PM
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18. Why have the camera move at all?
And who is the "we" he spoke of--did he have a mouse in his pocket?

:eyes:
rocknation
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:12 PM
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19. Lies make baby Jesus cry.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:20 PM
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22. I suddenly feel the need to go to Confession to this guy...
Bless me Father for I have sinned. I have voted for democrats all my life and intend to keep doing so". Amen.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:21 PM
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23. It's pretty obvious it is some kind of shelving. n/t
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:57 PM
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27. I thought it was a window grill....disguised as a cross, when I first saw it. I never saw a
bookshelf until I heard him say..."a bookshelf is just a bookshelf." I had to go look for the "bookshelf." That was deliberately shadowed to look like a cross. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing and now he's lying about it.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 09:21 PM
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48. There's stuff sitting on the bookshelf on the left hand side
IIRC.....Christmas decorations.

He probably did do it on purpose but it IS a bookshelf.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:24 PM
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24. Bullshit...Christmas is about one thing. FUDGE.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:04 AM
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31. Did someone say FUDGE???
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:41 AM
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36. Ugh. What a creepy picture.
Why am I hearing Colin Clive yelling, "It's alive! ALIVE!!!" in my head as I look at it?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:52 PM
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26. An answer in two parts
1. Huckabee is full of crap.
2. Donahue is the last person to tell anybody to "Sell yourself on your issues, not what your religion is".
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:35 AM
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34. This is one fight I wish both opponents could lose.
Bill Donahue just might be my least favorite person to watch or listen to. Horrible, horrible, person.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 08:37 AM
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37. Remember the podiums at the '04 Repub convention
They had subliminal cross images, too. (Gets off shiftless lazy ass and does her own research) Here's one!



:headbang:
rocknation
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:00 AM
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39. As much as I hate to do it, I have to give Huckabee credit for one thing...
That "Paul is dead" joke is pretty funny.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:18 AM
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41. Maybe he had a snappy comeback already prepared
knowing that he'd NEED one. I think it's Huckabee's credibility that's dead.

:headbang:
rocknation
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:08 AM
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40. I saw a screen capture from the commercial in question...
I saw a screen capture from the commercial in question. I didn't pay much attention to it, but the set design, lighting and camera angle made it more than obvious that a Cross was part and parcel of the message in that commercial.

I will admit that his "Paul is dead..." response was pretty sharp, though. Gotta keep up those claims of plausible deniability, y'know.
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vireo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:21 PM
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46. I wonder if he was thinking of Ron Paul
At least subliminally.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:24 AM
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42. OK, kill me, I gotta admit....
I did giggle for a nano second about Paul Is Dead...

:crickets:
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:28 AM
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43. It is a book shelf. But it's also a Christmas ad.
I don't see why this would bug Donahue so much. It's not like Huck's trying to hide the Christianity slant. He mentions Christ by name. This is getting silly.
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:33 AM
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44. The first time I saw the ad
I turned to my husband and said that it was patently obvious the filming had been done so that the background bookshelves formed a cross. Huckamuck clearly shows in this ad who his constituency is and would be.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:57 PM
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45. True, but he's making the same mistake the Rethugs made with Terri Schiavo
This may be turning on the evanglicals, but they're WAY outnumbered by Christian moderates--and this kind of showboating turns them off.

:headbang:
rocknation
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:39 PM
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47. All Christmas ads are lame. nt
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:30 PM
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49. all the "floating cross" tinfoil hat peeps are on crack...
What a big load of shit, "floating cross" when I heard this I expecet to see a tansparent cross actually floating above his head on one side or another, not to be confused with a panning background. What a dumbass claim....what next the Christmas tree has the all seeing eye on top?
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:35 PM
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50. Hey! It's the letter "t" for
ummm... :shrug:
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