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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:13 PM
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Could the Repukes have a Secret Weapon?
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 06:20 PM by Mike03
Call me paranoid, but I'm suspicious that the Republicans have someone waiting in the wings to jump into this race. The reason I worry about this is because their slate of candidates is the most pathetic bunch of oligophrenics I have ever seen in my short life here on this planet.

They've got at least one completely insensitive, warmongering and probably senile candidate (McCain), at least one retarded candidate (Thompson), one candidate who is so corrupt that if he is the nominee he will be so badly beaten and disgraced by the race that he will never be able to return to public life again (Guiliani), and one demented Fundamentalist who may cultivate the support of the extreme far right but has no hope at all of winning any elections (Huckabee).

Either the other side has decided to just throw in the towel, or they have something up their sleeve.

Could it be a bogus "Independent" (like Lieberman) who is a Repuke in sheep's clothing. A few months ago I was worried about Trent Lott, but he's out of the way.

Naturally, I hope it's the former, but I fear it might be the latter, although I can't predict or even imagine who they might have jump into the race at this point.

How could any of their nominees beat any of ours? I have spun this a thousand different ways, and every time we come out the victors. But it feels too easy. What am I missing?

Or maybe, with any luck, it really will be this easy.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:14 PM
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1. Thank you for your concern.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:18 PM
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2. I can't think of one rethug who might be waiting in the wings to announce.
They know they are sunk after the dim one's trashing of our country and Constitution, and these are the best they can do imo. Anyone who might have aspirations to run for prez with any noble qualifications will probably wait a few years til the dust settles and the Dems try to right the wrongs.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:18 PM
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3. Damn good question.
Here's the scariest part, remember this election?
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/CT/S/01/index.html
Huge amounts of the republican base abandoned their own candidate because they thought it was so much more important to back Lieberman??? Now look at the financial spending in this election between republicans and us, we appear to be killing them...or ARE we??? Could it be that one of our candidates is a Lieberman? And if so, what if its not who we might think?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:19 PM
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4. Don't forget...
We've got at least one completely insensitive, warmongering and probably senile candidate (McCain), at least one retarded candidate (Thompson), one candidate who is so corrupt that if he is the nominee he will be so badly beaten and disgraced by the race that he will never be able to return to public life again (Guiliani), and one demented Fundamentalist who may cultivate the support of the extreme far right but has no hope at all of winning any elections (Huckabee).


And don't forget the guy who shares qualities with all of them: Ron Paul.

1. insensitive and probably senile
2. retarded
3. will be so badly beaten
4. demented Fundamentalist (just ask John Birchers) who may cultivate the support of the extreme far right but has no hope at all of winning
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:23 PM
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5. I don't really know how to deal with the Ron Paul issue
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 06:25 PM by Mike03
Some people here have a high regard for him, which I find totally inexplicable except for his stance on the war.

But to me he seems like the Republican version of Dennis Kucinich--he has a diehard following, very devoted and loyal, but not optimistic that he can actually win the nomination.

I stopped posting about Ron Paul because to my amazement, I got my ass handed to me by some people here. Some of his fans don't want to hear where he stands on ALL of the issues; they only care where he stands on Iraq. And they don't even care why.

He's a Libertarian.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:29 PM
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8. Paultards
Ronpaul's following is more akin to a cult than a democracy, making him more like Pat Buchanan than Dennis Kucinich.

And I could care less what the Paultards say. I laugh at them now; I will laugh at them after he disappears.

They'll grow up; they're Libertardians.
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Captain Angry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:28 PM
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6. My conspiracy theory.

And CIA/FBI/NSA/Blackwater... It's a theory, I'm making it up. Don't make me commit suicide by shooting myself in the head 3 times from behind.


My theory on how to put Jeb Bush in as president.

1: GWBush is killed / injured by a "terrorist" attack. Probably an Iranian, since that would fit their needs nicely.

2: Cheney ascends to Presidency, asks for Jeb to be nominated as VP out of respect for GW.
2a: Cheney attacks Iran.

3: Nobody says no, because they feel bad for the terrible thing that happened to GWBush.

4: Cheney eventually steps down due to health issues. Jeb ascends to presidency. (optional)

5: Jeb is now the incumbent, and has not had to do anything that could be used against him in the campaign.

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:28 PM
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7. No
they have no secret weapon. They just have a shitty lineup of candidates.

There's nobody I can think of they could run that would do better than any of the losers they've got now.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:31 PM
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11. Great!! I hope you are right, and that we can keep the White House
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 06:32 PM by Mike03
for the next eight years, and then maybe Gore will jump in and take the next eight.

That Other party will NEVER live this administration down. Bush has been a disaster for them, from which they will never recover.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:30 PM
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9. I agree a new Rep could jump in at any time
and carry the whole thing away. We've seen how soft Giuliani's support is, with him dropping like a stone in Florida. It's amazing to me, really, that more people don't get in just to take a shot at it. I take it none of them think a Rep will win in November.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:31 PM
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10. Yes, they might re-animate the Gipper
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:32 PM
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12. Yes, but it's not a candidate.
I'm waiting for the barrage of lies, character assassination and made-up stories aimed at which ever Democrat wins the nomination. Repuke think tanks have had months to prepare for any scenario, along with their usual amount of unlimited financial resources to implement whatever action needs to be taken. Just wait.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:33 PM
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13. Just to add: Gingrich was another person I was worried about,
but it looks like he is out as well.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:39 PM
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14. Hagel and/or Bloomberg
maybe? Bloomberg will actually try to insinuate that he's somewhat "Democratic" if he runs as an independent. Hagel could join him (long shot). Otherwise I can't see anyone there to save them.... Powell? I doubt it. I think they're just toast.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:47 PM
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15. Bloomberg's planning to run, according to his aides today--he's
putting a media strategy together, apparently. I don't know if he'll take Hagel as VP or someone else, but that wouldn't be a secret weapon FOR Repubs--it would work against them, especially if they nominate Huckabilly.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:51 PM
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17. If Bloomberg jumps in as an Independent, that's when
I think Gore might jump in.

Yesterday I posted on this possibility.

But I would be shocked if Bloomberg came in as a Republican (how I hate typing that word), but he might well come in as an Independent teamed up with a centrist Republican, which would be very very disorienting for the election.

Could that prompt Gore to jump in???
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:56 PM
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19. I wish you were right
but I think Gore is out. I think his Bali speech was the clearest signal yet that he has no interest in this game.

Now, things would get really interesting if both Bloomberg and Paul ran as Independents. Toss Cynthia McKinney in to spice things up and you've got a circus show free-for-all that can only help the Democrat.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:48 PM
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16. The secret weapon I worry about is
some new method to miscount or corrupt votes and steal another election...

I'm not thinking in terms of a new candidate entering the fray so much, but more to Republicon desperation mounting so high that they will resort to *anything* to manipulate events and manage the outcome. (terror attacks, assassinations, financial crisis, martial law, "for our own safety")

Plus, they've always got the Supremes to decide for us.

(I hope I'm being hysterical and irrational here, but these guys seem to have no limits.)


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Solar Power Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:57 PM
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20. True...a new way to steal another election..
Yes, that is it.......look they did it in 2000, and 2004, why not 2008?
......It has been said, never underestimate your opponent.....

Here at this forum, and across the country, that is exactly what seems to be happening.
...... We, all the candidates, all of us, should be acting as if we are 20 points behind..then we may win..
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 06:53 PM
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18. Yeah, vote stealing machines, what more do they need?
:shrug: It worked well for them in 2000/02/04and
06 to a certain extent and I am sure they are in full theft mode for 2008. Or maybe it's just my paranoia showing through? :silly:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:00 PM
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21. A secret weapon?
Like causing chaos and using their superior resources to take advantage of it?

Nah... No one would ever sell weapons to both Iran and Iraq to get them to fight each other, destablizing the region, making it ripe for us to walk in and take the oil.

The sarcasm is meant generally, not at the OP'er.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:23 PM
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22. Maureen Dowd said it best a few days ago
"Democrats have an embarrassment of riches (in candidates). Republicans just have the embarrassment."
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:25 PM
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23. You have reason to be paranoid ! I keep thinking the same thing..:-)
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:33 PM
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24. Good thoughts, something to think about & as you say, their slate of
candidates is pretty pathetic, like the way you described them. The Lieberman thing is certainly plausible, Bloomberg, don't know what he is going to do yet, still wonder what that meeting with Obama was about.

Regardless, you could be on to something as far as someone else getting in because there is room for someone that has something to offer and it is none of the ones running on the republican ticket right now.
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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 07:38 PM
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25. They already shot their secret candidate wad with Thompson
Who pretty much just rolled over and went back to sleep.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:00 PM
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26. The not so secret weapon is the compliant, or rather co-conspiritor, MSM.
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 08:02 PM by abq e streeter
They can spin just about anything and anyone the way they want, and millions of uninformed people will fall for whatever they're told. I already saw Huckleberry on the CBS morning show and the "journalists " " questioning" him could not have fawned over him any more than they did without falling to their knees and committing the one and only act that's actually impeachable. They'll have their story line of lovable straight -talkin' Hucky or whatever they decide the story line will be on whoever its needed for. Hopefully, enough people have FINALLY figured out what a crock the MSM has become, that their BS won't be accepted by enough people to matter, but if there is a secret weapon, I think this is it, and not to be underestimated.
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