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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:25 PM
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My money is on a Clinton-Edwards Ticket.
I think this because both have the experience of completing Presidential Campaigns. Hillary as a First Lady and has done so twice, successfully. Edwards, in retrospect, has been seen as the true strength in the 04 Kerry-Edwards Ticket. Edwards also wanted to fight the stolen Ohio votes too! I tend to focus on winning. This is my prediction for the Democratic Ticket after all the foreplay has been applied.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:27 PM
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Team Hillary will want someone "tough" with perceived foreign experience
I like Edwards, but I doubt she would pick him.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:32 PM
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3. I actually prefer Biden but I don't believe
he would accept a VP slot....So I narrow it down to Edwards. Maybe even Ted Strickland, the now Ohio Governor. He definitely does not have a passion for the slot, but might be persuaded if Huck, the alleged minister is the repug nominee. Strickland is an Ordained Minister, has a PhD in Psychology, has been a U.S Congressman....and won the Ohio Governor Seat against Ken Blackwell 45 minutes after the polls closed... 65% of Ohio republicans approve of Strickland.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:49 PM
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16. I think a Clinton/Biden ticket would be really hard to beat
very tough, solid ticket
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:54 PM
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18. Yeah, but they would prefer to set up a candidate for 2016,
and Biden won't do.
I think Wes Clark is a possibility.
Definitely a white male though (if Clinton gets the nod.)
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 07:00 PM
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45. What a disaster
We'd have to give up on all of the south and most of the midwest. That's a ticket with zero heartland appeal.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:27 PM
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1. I don't think Edwards wants to run for VP again
and I doubt anybody would choose him. He wasn't even able to help carry his own state last time.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:32 PM
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2. Your 1st point is correct. #2 is not.
There wouldn't be much excitement in having the same vp two cycles in a row.
However, Edwards got the 3-4% boost in NC that you would expect from a VP. I don't think Edwards would even win NC as a presidential candidate. They usually get @ a 10% boost, and NC is has @ a +14R partisan voting index.

Arkansas isn't as red (+8 or 9r I think) which would make would put it in play for Hillary, but not lock it up.

Some states are just too red for anyone to win. I think the idea of Bayh winning IN as a VP is a joke.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:35 PM
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4. Edwards can never again run as VP and nobody would have him.
He would be incessantly mocked as the perennial VP candidate, it would be a joke.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:37 PM
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5. I doubt that.............
It might be mentioned but it's easy to create festive distractions to that minor thought. Evidence of leadership will prevail.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:42 PM
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7. Minor? You don't pick a failed VP candidate to go on your
ticket.

It just doesn't make sense.

Playing the #2 guy for another candidate would also mean you need to parrot his talking points.

That means that Edwards could be shown schilling for contradictory issues for different candidates and be made a fool of.

The #2 spot just is not in the cards for Edwards and never will be again, if I'm sure about anything this election cycle, its that.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 07:02 PM
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46. If he doesn't win the nomination
the VP slot is his only chance for remaining relevant. Its better than being the perennial losing Presidential candidate by running again next time.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 10:23 PM
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57. No candidate would be crazy enough to pick him.
As his VP.

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:40 PM
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6. He keeps calling her corrupt, and a corporate democrat. He's running for the GOP VP spot.
He dreams of a McCain/Edwards ticket.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:47 PM
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11. Is your hatred of Edwards making you go crazy in the head? n/t
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:51 PM
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17. I pity the victims of the smarmy charlatan. You included, Insp.
It's not your fault you've been conned by an expert con man.
Just please don't drink any more of the snake oil he's selling.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:56 PM
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21. LOL!
Wow. You sound completely rational.



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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:15 PM
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32. ...
:crazy:
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:23 PM
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35. "Con man", LOL
Reading your sig file, I see you've been taken in by the biggest con man running. You ought to live out here in the Southwest, and then you'd know what a liar your precious Bill Richardson is. Like when he took credit for being the first border state governor to declare a state of emergency about the border crisis, when Janet Napolitano actually did so before he did. Napolitano has done a helluva lot more about the immigration crisis (within the scope of her legal abilities) than he ever will.

John Edwards has devoted his life to defending the defenseless, whether as a trial lawyer, running for office, or forming an organization to help fight poverty. Yes, Edwards has cast some bad votes, but at least he's man enough to admit it...and he doesn't go around taking credit for what other people have done.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:56 PM
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20. I know, I know, but you'd be surprised what a difference a day makes.
All can be forgotten if the prize is right in politics.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:13 PM
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30. Whatever you're smoking, you need to stop it
Edwards is farther left than Hillary OR Obama!
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:43 PM
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8. Funny, I thought exact opposite! nt
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:45 PM
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9. Yeah right
1st, I doubt Edwards would want to be a VP candidate anymore. 2nd, Edwards has railed against Clinton throughout the campaign. Clinton will probably pick Evan Bayh, Wesley Clark, Tom Vilsack, or Ted Strickland as VP. Of the candidates running for President the only one that has a shot to be her VP is Richardson.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:57 PM
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22. Not Ricahrdson for VP.
I doubt they would take the chance of trying to break two glass ceilings at the same time. Richardson somewhere in the admin though if he wants it.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:47 PM
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10. But usually after the foreplay
Someone gets screwed! Don't think for a minute that Edwards would succumb to miss smarty pants!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:47 PM
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12. John would NEVER play second fiddle to Hillary.Ever. He has made it obvious
what he thinks of her ties to corporate corruption.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:47 PM
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13. My money is on Clinton/Richardson
She needs him for the West, plus his congenial humor, foreign relations experience, and his status as a Governor neatly offsets her percieved flaws.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:00 PM
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23. I'd gladly vote for that ticket!
Unlike most supporters of 'second tier' candidates, I'm a realist.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:02 PM
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24. It's the ticket for me too
I'm rooting for it!

(plus anything that gets Horatio Sanz back on SNL would delight me --Hope Huckabee gets the nom too --more Kevin Spacey that way)
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:05 PM
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26. That's what I'm thinking.
Richardson brings foreign policy experience and is a draw for the Hispanic vote. It would be an excellent ticket.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:32 PM
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40. Ah yes, the all-important Hispanic support
Remember the last elected official that the Hispanics supported? His name was Alberto Gonzalez. :scared:

We don't need the Hispanic vote. We need the votes of the majority of Americans, who are AGAINST illegal immigration. What Richardson has actually done to fight it in NM won't be enough to overcome the PERCEPTION that he will coddle illegals. So many other Hispanic Dem elected officials have coddled illegals, that they've created a new stereotype: Democrat + Hispanic = Amnesty for illegals.

To paraphrase an old saying, a perception is halfway around the world by the time truth puts on its boots.

Besides, unless he's a DLC'er, Richardson doesn't stand a chance of being picked by HRC anyway, so the question is moot.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:48 PM
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42. We don't need the Hispanic vote??
This election is going to be very close. We're going to need every vote we can get.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:20 PM
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34. My favorite President is out stumping for Richardson!
President Bartlett, who resembles an Ohio native, Martin Sheen.

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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:23 PM
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36. Chauncey Gardner
was my favorite fictional President.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 07:08 PM
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49. He certainly brings a good package of experience.
When I see him on news spots and in debates, I feel a warm glow from Richardson. Kind of like a favorite Uncle.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 07:20 PM
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50. I agree
even reminds me a little of Mayor LaGuardia at times. (not THAT I'm that old --I've seen films)
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 07:24 PM
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51. I hear ya!
I had to snicker a bit.........I can relate.:rofl: :hide:
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 07:24 PM
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52. I think you're probably right.
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:48 PM
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14. I'd put my money on that
As the Democratic ticket that is never, ever going to happen. Edwards is going for President or bust, I doubt he'd want to be the VP nom again, and especially not for Clinton.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:48 PM
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15. I'd actually like that ticket a lot.
I don't know if JE would consider it, but I would love to have the two on a ticket.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 05:55 PM
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19. Edwards/Clinton maybe
John won't run for VP again.
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Rock_Garden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:04 PM
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25. I think we've all had enough foreplay, right?
During a recent tv interview, Bill Clinton said that he thought Hillary's best running mate would come from her current field of competitors, but he wouldn't give a name. Drove me crazy.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:37 PM
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41. Let's be honest, they ALL are terrific candidates.
I love them all.:loveya: That was an easy prediction.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:08 PM
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27. Edwards wanted to WAIT to concede - and Kerry agreed once the provisional
Edited on Sat Dec-15-07 06:09 PM by blm
ballots changed - they waited and conceded the next day.

Did Edwards ever explain to you what legal evidence he had to make a case in court? Because there are several newspapers in North Carolina who have asked him about this internet myth that he wanted to fight the election results and he has yet to oblige them.

Maybe if you explain Edwards' position on that they will accept YOUR explanation.

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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:11 PM
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28. I don't know. Edwards could not bring the south for Kerry.
I think that Clinton needs someone strong on foreign policy. But, no more senators! We need to keep the democrats in the senate!
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:50 PM
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43. Edwards would be a good choice.
that way she can fool the American people into not thinking she is Bush Lite. Foreign policy experience. You might mean saber rattling to make up for the fact she has not male genitals and a plan to feed defense contractors their due.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:11 PM
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29. NO WAY would she pick Edwards
He cares about the poor and is pro-union, adamantly against ripoff trade agreements like NAFTA. A DLC'er wouldn't touch him with a ten-foot pole.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:14 PM
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31. I'll take that bet.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:18 PM
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33. Gen. Wesley Clark will be the Dem VP candidate no matter who wins the nomination n/t
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:28 PM
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38. Wouldn't mind that
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:29 PM
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39. I'm not a betting man, but
That would be my prediction at this point as well.

We could do a LOT worse, too. I tell you what, I should
be seeing him in about 2 weeks. I'll ask him flat out,
and he won't tell me a thing, but I'll try to read between
the lines.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:28 PM
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37. Clinton may make an acceptable VP, I doubt
if anyone would pick her though.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:59 PM
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44. Clinton/Clarke is much more likley.
No way would she pick Edwards. Biden would be a good choice but he wouldn't accept it.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 07:04 PM
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47. Clarke/Clinton could work but he could do better n/t
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 07:04 PM
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48. Jeepers! It sure is refreshing to talk
with respect for one another.

Oh, it feels sooooooooooo good!:thumbsup: :grouphug: :loveya: :kick:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 07:29 PM
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53. Sorry - I don't vote for pro-torture candidates
Hillary not only refused to sign a "no-torture pledge" from the American Freedom Campaign, but now she's on record in the New York Daily News as saying she'd authorize torture in some sort of wacky Jack Bauer/24 scenario.

No, thank you. I want a Democratic President that actually obeys the Constitution.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 08:05 PM
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54. That sounds possible
Although, I am hoping that they will change the formula and that the nominee whomever that may be chooses someone from outside the field of candidates.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 08:50 PM
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55. Mine's on Edwards/someone else
I think it will be Edwards in the top position and someone else in the vp spot. Why should or would Edwards settle for running as veep again.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 08:56 PM
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56. I can not imagine any Dem ticket that would make me sicker
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:31 PM
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58. Well, that's trying to attract opposites I must say.
Corporate and anti-corporate. Covers all bases.
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CANDO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 12:18 AM
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59. She won't get the nomination.
end of story
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 12:25 AM
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60. No. He won't want VP again (nor would Hillary) and if he couldn't carry NC for Kerry
he couldn't carry it for Hillary either.
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