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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 10:09 AM
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Why isn't this NY Times article about Giuliani's lies on the front page
instead of being stuck in the Metro section. Yes it's about his incredibly NON-transparent time as Mayor here in NY. But it's really about the big lie he told in Iowa.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/15/nyregion/15about.html?_r=1&ref=nyregion&oref=slogin
Since the national edition of the Times does not include Metro, they are more or less sweeping this under the carpet.
Sure they published it, but we New Yorkers know he ran the most opaque Mayor's office we've had. This is something the rest of the country needs to know.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 10:42 AM
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1. The Media have their ways of getting whom they want to be
elected.

I give you GWB. Practically non-stop positve coverage

This can be accomplished by where the story is placed, or
even whether it is carried.

More importantly --Watch to see if TV Media even pick this
story up and how much coverage it is given on TV.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 10:48 AM
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2. Here's some of the article. BURIED by the NYT because they're repuke shills? Just guessing.
:eyes:

<snip>
In a debate among Republican candidates this week, Mr. Giuliani was asked what promises he would make about running an open White House.

“I would make sure that government was transparent,” Mr. Giuliani said. “My government in New York City was so transparent that they knew every single thing I did almost every time I did it.”

That was a daring claim, considering that prying information out of the Giuliani City Hall required teams of lawyers with the persistence of mules. To cite three of the most prominent examples, he tried to block the release of different batches of public records to the city’s Independent Budget Office, to the city’s public advocate, and to the state comptroller. He was sued on each occasion. He lost every time. He appealed each decision. He lost every appeal.

“So,” Mr. Giuliani said during the debate, looking toward his presidency, “I would be extremely open.”

Just not yet.

Since leaving public office at the end of 2001, Mr. Giuliani has made many millions of dollars, but will not say exactly how, or from whom. He has filed the disclosures required of presidential candidates, and these show he made money through speaking engagements, a partnership in a law firm, and shares in 12 consulting and financial businesses. During an interview on “Meet the Press” earlier this week, he said he could not reveal more.

“I couldn’t put out a list of all my clients,” Mr. Giuliani said. “There are confidentiality agreements that surround the relationship that businesses have with law firms, in particular. In some cases, with security firms, so I can’t do that.”

The question was put to a spokeswoman for his campaign on Friday: Has Mr. Giuliani asked his clients to release him from the confidentiality agreements?

The campaign did not answer.

The Giuliani companies have provided services for the Saudi national oil company, for the emirate of Qatar and for a data-mining business that wanted a federal contract, according to recent reports in Time magazine, The Wall Street Journal and The Village Voice.

Qatar, a small petroleum state, is a delicate place for an American presidential candidate to do business. Its emir has built up good relations with the United States and has played host to American military forces, but elements within his government also gave shelter to the man who planned the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Those sympathizers probably tipped off Mr. Mohammed when Americans were hoping to seize him in 1996, according to the 9/11 Commission report.

AMONG those who invited Mr. Mohammed to Qatar, the commission said, was Sheikh Abdullah bin Khalid al-Thani, now the minister of the interior.

When asked by Tim Russert of “Meet the Press” about his company’s relationship with the interior minister, Mr. Giuliani responded: “The relationship is with a, a ministry that does training.” A ministry, Mr. Russert pressed, headed by Mr. Thani?

No, Mr. Giuliani said. <snip>
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:52 AM
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7. He has made $52 MILLION since 2002.
Assuming he didn't pile up wealth in his public service career, he must have made it all in the last five years. Kind of amazing. Really makes you wonder who paid it to him and for what.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 12:04 PM
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9. Yep. I say take a look at the Saudi, Dubai and Qatar checkbooks! n/t
Edited on Sat Dec-15-07 12:04 PM by in_cog_ni_to
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 03:11 PM
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10. Yep,
GOP candidates taking money from foreign governments linked to terrorism is just business. Dem candidates taking money from Move-On is treason.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:00 AM
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3. Jim Dwyer is a reporter on the Metro beat.
That's why his article is in the local section. My question is why this story was given to him and/or not made a national story. At some point an Editor should have seen this as a bigger story, or maybe they did?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:02 AM
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4. why did the WaPo put the CIA/Justice dept. story off the front page? complicity with the adm.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:51 AM
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6. Hey this is about the NY Times!
Start your own thread!:-)
Seriously though, the WaPo has a history of supporting the Bush War. This is not a surprise.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:54 AM
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8. just pointing out our complicit media on all fronts
:toast:
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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:49 AM
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5. Because they're wimps
Even though it is impossible to not choose sides in the current ultra-polarized environment, they think they have to preserve their reputation of journalistic "objectivity" and neutrality, such as it is. Putting the article on the front page would be called a political attack by the wingers.
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