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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 08:36 AM
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Baby tax, sterilization needed to save planet, claims expert
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22896334-2,00.html

A WEST Australian medical expert wants families to pay a $5000-plus "baby levy" at birth and an annual carbon tax of up to $800 a child.

Writing in today's Medical Journal of Australia, Associate Professor Barry Walters said every couple with more than two children should be taxed to pay for enough trees to offset the carbon emissions generated over each child's lifetime.

Professor Walters, clinical associate professor of obstetric medicine at the University of Western Australia and the King Edward Memorial Hospital in Perth, called for condoms and "greenhouse-friendly" services such as sterilisation procedures to earn carbon credits.

And he implied the Federal Government should ditch the $4133 baby bonus and consider population controls like those in China and India.

Professor Walters said the average annual carbon dioxide emission by an Australian individual was about 17 metric tons, including energy use.

"Every newborn baby in Australia represents a potent source of greenhouse gas emissions for an average of 80 years, not simply by breathing but by the profligate consumption of resources typical of our society," he wrote.

"Far from showering financial booty on new mothers and rewarding greenhouse-unfriendly behaviour, a 'baby levy' in the form of a carbon tax should apply, in line with the 'polluter pays' principle."

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 08:40 AM
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1. Nah. We'll be dying in the millions. That should cover it.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 08:54 AM
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2. No prob. We doing fine with the sanitized holocaust called healthcare crisis
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:26 AM
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3. Let's start it immediately. Anyone identified as a Repug is immediately entered into the program.
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SharkSquid Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:27 AM
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4. Wow, eugenics much?
"Thank you Mr Hitler, here is your vegitarian platter"

-Eddie Izzard
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 10:46 AM
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7. How exactly is it eugenics?
No particular trait or traits is being favored or discouraged.
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SharkSquid Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 10:53 AM
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8. Except the traits that naturally tend to lend some people towards
Conservatism...

Or am I loosing my effin mind here.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:27 AM
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9. Awwwww
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SharkSquid Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 01:56 PM
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11. What the hell is that supposed to mean?
Is that not Eugenics? Stinks like it to me.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:30 AM
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5. So the only people who can have babies are the well off?
Another stupid idea......
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 10:03 AM
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6. I vote no on the baby levy and yes on earning credits for sterilisation
Any increase in family planning procedures is a good thing IMO, but punishing the poor and middle class for having children is ridiculous.

On the flip side, I would love to see the people who choose to not have children be treated with more respect in this society. The stories I hear from people who are childless by choice boggles my mind.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:39 AM
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10. Some RW think tank tool, I forget who
Claimed that childless people were "free riders" on society because we failed to dutifully procreate more consumers.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 03:58 PM
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12. Gross!
I guess I shouldn't be too surprised though.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:00 PM
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13. Why do people always seek to control womens' reproductive rights?
First it was fundies, now others are joining in?

Sheesh.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:23 PM
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14. sterilization is not gender specific
n/t
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:27 PM
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15. Yeah, that's so much easier than changing anything else.
Let's penalize breeders before corporations.
:eyes:
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