Jonathan Turley on Olbermann: "The idea that the President is not involved is ridiculous"

[Hissyspit]

Turley concerning destroyed CIA tapes: "I can't imagine" that this isn't a need for an independent review.

Hayden's 'protect identities' excuse "a classic" strategy to avoid prosecution. "It is absolutely ridiculous" to say that this is not a compelling case for independent review.

"A least six identifiable crimes."

"The Dems-may-have-known revelation is a shocking revelation"

[babylonsister]

1. How many years of this crap must we endure? It's exhausting, I tell ya!

:hi:

[Hissyspit]

20. Video HERE:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x75250

[Hissyspit]

21. Correct quote is: "The Suggestion the President is not Involved is Ridiculous"

In the interest of accuracy.

[Solly Mack]

2. No one could ever convince me that Bush wasn't involved

Of course he was

[thepurpose]

3. Since there is an ongoing investigation. I can't comment on this post.Hee Hee.

[H2O Man]

4. Nominated.

Turley is always worth listening to.

[Hissyspit]

5. One smart guy. n/t

[Usrename]

28. He was the only scholar to testify for impeaching Clinton.

Of all the Constitutional scholars who testified before Hyde's kangaroo court, he was the only one who felt that the case rose to the level of an impeachable offense.

He kept harping about "the rule of law." Over and over. If it weren't for him, we might not be in this mess.

[frogmarch]

6. K&R

At least SIX!

AT LEAST six!

[Postman]

7. These past 8 years have been surreal to say the least.

The Bush Adminstration are children playing with loaded weapons. How is this country not destroyed yet?

[thepurpose]

12. Since there is an ongoing investigation. I can't comment on this post. However we will leak

later how its the democrats that want to destroy this country. But I just wondering what this has to do with Cuba and missles? I mean you have Cuba and you have missles what that has to do with President Putin who the President has a very respectful relationship with..... Oh give me a second I will ask my husband and get back to you.

[Postman]

14. I'm not getting it.

WTF are you talking about?

[thepurpose]

15. If I was in the WH press briefing room that is the same question I would pose.

[Hissyspit]

18. Poster is mocking Dana Perino and her arbitrary inability-to-comment defense and her ignorance of

the Cuban missile crisis.

[Atman]

19. The freepers and sub-freepers always get around admitting wrong-doing

By saying that no one has been convicted of anything, and that there aren't even any investigations going on, and if there are investigations going on the fact that they're being run of an old friend of Bush's doesn't actually demonstrate a conflict because unlike Democrats, Republicans are above scandal. You can't stand the fact that Bush is just a brilliant leader.

*whew*

This sorry-ass game is getting old.

.

[Blackhatjack]

8. And this is why we need a 'fighter' from outside the Washington beltway LIKE EDWARDS....

If there are Democrats hung up in this mess by what they knew or did not know, there will be natural turf protection policies in place which will frustrate efforts to get to the truth.

Put EDWARDS in the Oval Office, and watch them scatter as a revamped DOJ goes after these criminals.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

9. Turley said 6 to 12 crimes, on Randi's show today.

Six to twelve separate crimes.

[AlCzervik]

10. I love Turley, too bad his segment wasn't longer so we could have avoided Milbank.

not a fan, i feel like he's always trying to excuse republican assholery.

[malaise]

11. Bushed!!!

KO rocks.

[Olney Blue]

13. Turley consistently delivers a scholarly indictment of the Chimp's assault on

the Constitution.

[Joe Fields]

25. Turley and John Dean: a great one-two punch.

[Olney Blue]

27. Indeed.

[spanone]

16. Kick AND Recommend

[gratuitous]

17. Considering the track record of this administration

It's a lead pipe cinch that involvement in this crime goes all the way to the top. But we mustn't investigate, lest we look partisan and give the perfumed courtiers of the press like David Broder a case of the vapors with our shrillness.

I'm with Babylon Sister: This nonsense has gone on for far too long. It's time for contempt citations for non-cooperative witnesses, jail time for the recalcitrant and articles of impeachment for their bosses. This is obstruction of justice, cut and dried.

[babylonsister]

22. "We mustn't investigate." Where/when have I heard those words before?

And then, when the deed is done (Plame, anyone?), this wh has nothing to do with it. I'm sick of them getting away with everything they should be responsible, and in jail, for.

[jillan]

23. Write and call your Senators and ask them to support Biden's asking for a special investigation.

Jay Rockefeller - chairman of the Intel. committee is trying to hold it up.

Put the pressure on!!

[Horse with no Name]

24. SIX PEOPLE need Attorneys

This saddens me.
We know it will never happen.:(

[L. Coyote]

26. Add a few more co-conspirators, maybe Ashcroft and Gonzales

Also involved were "lawyers within the White House and the Justice Department" according to this article. Given war crimes were being covered up, there seems a high likelihood that the discussions involved the AG and Bush's legal counsel, Ashcroft and Gonzales.

It is time to call this what is is, a Bush Junta "conspiracy to cover up war crimes."

====================================
Lawyers Cleared Destroying CIA Tapes
New York Times By MARK MAZZETTI and SCOTT SHANE - Dec 11, 2007
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/11/washington/11intel.html?hp


Lawyers within the clandestine branch of the Central Intelligence Agency gave written approval in advance to the destruction in 2005 of hundreds of hours of videotapes documenting interrogations ....

The former intelligence official acknowledged that there had been nearly two years of debate among government agencies about what to do with the tapes, and that lawyers within the White House and the Justice Department had in 2003 advised against a plan to destroy them. But the official said that C.I.A. officials had continued to press the White House for a firm decision, and that the C.I.A. was never given a direct order not to destroy the tapes.

“They never told us, ‘Hell, no,’” he said. ...............

Discuss at: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3097311

[EVDebs]

29. "The Dems may have known" but couldn't tell because of national security oaths...

The 'state secrets' stuff means we're going to end up chasing our tails. Ultimately karma will out; in the time being we can only stand jaws to the floor at the hypocrisy.

Washington's Final Address To The Nation, read every year to Congress, needs to stress the 'foreign entanglements' and 'partisanship' warnings a little bit more next time around. The numbskulls in the GOP have sooooo damaged this country... it's hopefully still repairable.

[pnwmom]

30. The Dems-may-have-known revelation isn't a revelation at all.

It's a self-serving insinuation. Where's the evidence of what a couple of the Dems supposedly were told?

And the Rethugs controlled both the House and the Senate. What could any of the Dems have done with any classified information that disturbed them?