How did the Air Forse nuke incidence correlate to the admission that the whitehouse

[madokie]

was told about the impending NIE back in August

[Horse with no Name]

1. I can't say for sure

but did it provide cover in the news cycle for the language to change? What was the timeline?

[librechik]

2. That was one of my first questions, more or less.

did Cheney get wind of the NIE release and try to force a confrontation, only to be stopped at the last instant by somebody somewhere in the military?

It is an even more haunting incident, given the new info.

[madokie]

4. with chimpco being the vindictive asses that they are and all, plus being war criminals

I don't put anything past them. they must hold on to power no matter what and thats what scares me the most. the boys are going down and they'll do anything it takes to keep from doing that. America watch out 'cause there's some rough seas ahead

[Horse with no Name]

5. A coup attempt that failed?

Very possible.

[madokie]

9. the hair on the back of my neck tells me thats true

when I entertain the thought, hell its giving me the heebeejeebee's now

[Horse with no Name]

11. We have a President AND a media

who chooses not to ask questions.
That is what provides cover for incidents like this.

[madokie]

16. the president part we can deal with I feel but I'm not sure we can do what needs done concerning our

media of which a democracy depends on so much. I see it as on a par with voting in importance and I think so did the framers. We have no choices but to get it right this time

[jwirr]

18. I am also afraid we are going to have trouble dealing with the

excessive power of corporations in our government. Can they be curtailed?

[loudsue]

21. That's it in a nutshell. Corporate owned voting machines, corporate media.

We are in such deep shit until we get that straightened out.

K & R

[Marie26]

15. I think Bush was briefed on the NIE on Aug. 20-23

The White House's press secretary released a statement on the updated NIE on Aug. 23, 2007. What I find puzzling is that the White House's statement fails to mention any of the NIE's findings on Iran's nuclear program. The statement says that the new NIE "will inform the recommendations to be made by President Bush" when he returns to Washington in September. Yet he now claims that he didn't even know about the NIE's findings. Bullshit.

Statement by White House Deputy Press Secretary Gordon Johndroe on National Intelligence Estimate

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
August 23, 2007

"The National Intelligence Estimate's updated judgments show that our strategy has improved the security environment in Iraq...The judgments in the NIE confirm that Iraq's security forces are improving their performance and that bottom-up political engagement and security initiatives have made a difference and offer the best prospect for improved security over the next six to 12 months. The NIE does conclude that the Iraqi security forces have not improved enough to conduct major operations independent of the coalition on a sustained basis in multiple locations, and that the ISF remain reliant on the coalition for important aspects of logistics and combat support. ....

Today's key judgments also confirm that Iran and Syria are still supporting and arming militant groups inside Iraq. The NIE states, and I quote, "Iran has been intensifying aspects of its lethal support for select groups of Iraqi Shia militants, particular the JAM." Most troublesome, the use of EFPs supplied by Iran has risen dramatically, and it is taking an increasing toll on our troops. While Syria has taken some action, it has done so because of the threat to its own stability, and has begun to support non-al Qaeda in Iraq groups to increase its influence inside Iraq.

The full National Intelligence Estimate will inform the recommendations to be made by President Bush, as well as the recommendations to be made by General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker when they return to Washington in September to testify before Congress and make the report to the American people. And we look forward to hearing from them."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/08/20070823.html

[madokie]

17. theres no doubt with me anyway that he was lying bout having only been briefed on it here

recently. lying is his M.O. after all
they impeached Clinton for Lying and give this warmonger a pass, something for which I'll never forgive a re:puke: for, ever

[Marie26]

20. Why doesn't the media bring this up?

I mean, it's right there on the White House's own website - Bush was briefed on the updated NIE before Aug. 23, the WH quotes directly from the report, & says that the NIE will inform Bush's recommendations & report to the American people. Of course, the White House & Bush then totally ignore & mischaracterize the NIE's findings. No wonder McConegall made it public.

[havocmom]

3. Recommended for a damned important question

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[madokie]

8. theres no coincidences with this cabal

its all done for a purpose. hell the dick has been working on them being where they were hoping to be for 40 some odd years now so we know from that he is a schemer. he reminds me of one of my early in lifes girlfriends who never got mad, she got even, well thats chimpco in a nut shell.


thanks

[spanone]

12. k&r

[sarcasmo]

6. I feel they are both related.

Nuke incident may have been a General who knew it had to be stopped. I personally feel the Nukes were headed for Israel so they could use them on Iran. When Israel bombed the Syrian Nuke site it was very close to WWIII.
The NIE report was probably someone in the CIA trying to stop Bush and Cheney from carrying out this insane attack, just my theory of course.

[WGS]

19. Why

would we send nukes to Israel? they have their own.....

[sarcasmo]

22. I would bet you they don't have bunker busters.

[SharkSquid]

7. UMMMM I am just going out on a limb here

But...not at all.

[malaise]

10. I thought about that but it was more in terms

of why the intelligence agencies were prepared to go public.

[madokie]

14. Someone in the Air Force and someone with the Intelligence agencys

stepping up and blowing the cabals cover has me in an Alarmed State to say the least. Something is going on, people for the most part don't go shooting themselves in the foot as what these folks could very well have done, they're putting their lives on the line to get the message out. To them for that I respect

[Marie26]

13. Probably nothing

But it's a good question.

Oct 17-19th - DOD releases results of investigation of Air Force nuclear incident; Bush makes speech about Iran's nuclear weapons & World War III. Blair makes first speech since leaving office, talking about terrorist threat from Iran, and comparing Iran & fascism.

Friday, October 19, 2007 - "Military Resistance Forced Shift on Iran Strike"

WASHINGTON - The George W. Bush administration’s shift from the military option of a massive strategic attack against Iran to a surgical strike against selected targets associated with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), reported by Seymour Hersh in the New Yorker earlier this month, appears to have been prompted not by new alarm at Iran’s role in Iraq but by the explicit opposition of the nation’s top military leaders to an unprovoked attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities. ...

Time magazine political columnist Joe Klein, reported last May that military and intelligence sources told him that Bush had asked the Joint Chiefs at the meeting about a possible strike against the Iranian nuclear programme, and that they had unanimously opposed such an attack. Mann says that she was also told by her own contacts in the Pentagon that the Joint Chiefs had expressed opposition to a strike against Iran."
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/10/19/4686/

[mdmc]

23. kick