The recent news that Iran is no longer trading oil for dollars....

[Aviation Pro]

...is the straw that will break Motherfucker George Bush's and Shitstain Shoots-Guy-In-Face's back and their illegal administration. I learned a long time ago that one can get away with just about anything, including in this case murder, until one starts fucking with the money.

My prediction, Motherfucker and Shitstain will not serve out the remainder of their "terms."

[lonestarnot]

1. I hope you are a real fortune teller!

:evilgrin:

[madokie]

3. me too

I also have a gut feeling the house of bush/cheney is starting to crumble and when the parts start dropping they knock others loose on their way down, ie the twin tower's collapse. this bush/cheney gennie is out of the bottle and it's too never ever be put back in again, she's already got too big for that. If we thought it was a battle up to now, we better hold on to our hats cause the real battle has only begun, everyone will be playing for keeps from now on out. only the bush/cheney cabal have been up to now :hi::hug:

[malaise]

5. 100% correct

but cornered rats attack before they're finally caught.

[madokie]

7. thats what we have to be ready for

once cornered even humans resort back to the time when humans were all but animals and they react accordingly. our having that knowledge should be a leg up for us. There's a good day coming for Mankind and the dawn is upon us.
And its about damn time I must say :-)

[malaise]

9. I'm not certain about the good day for mankind

because there are a lot of right wing governments across the globe, but Bush and Cheney are cornered rats.

[madokie]

11. Ok I stand corrected

In my excitement sometimes I get a little overzealous

[malaise]

14. LOL

:D

[spanone]

2. i'll believe it when i see it

[tom_paine]

4. No way. Motherfucker and Shitstain would pile our corpses by the millions before

allowing that to happen.

If Bush or Cheney EVER get in serious peril of prosecution, suddenly "terrorists" will attack America.

Congress knows this, I think, and I speculate it, along with direct intimidations like the anthrax envelopes the Bushies sent out in Oct. 2001., is what keep them surrendering, some of them anyway.

They know the alternative is the "terrostists" atacking us not long after Bush and Cheney become aware that they are in danger of prosecution for their multiple-felonies and treasons.

[malaise]

6. I dare then to try

They don't have enough evil friends left to pull off anymore evil deeds. The next time they'll be carried out in chains.

Personally I'm expecting some sudden deaths (heart attacks, suicides and 'suicided' over the holidays while everyone else is distracted.

[havocmom]

10. Check out the fundy whack jobs running the Air Force

It takes far fewer minions than there are just there to set off attacks.

Terrorists know things are best done by very small cells of followers. Cheney is a terrorist.

[malaise]

15. The nukes across the country were

exposed by people from within and the NIE report is out despite Bushco.
Sp.

[havocmom]

17. Took a whole lotta people cooperating for the nukes to make it across the country

Smaller weapons, more portable, easy for small cells operating unnoticed.

Also, one or two aircraft could do a whole lotta damage with damned few people involved, if conventional weapons were involved.

[Aviation Pro]

19. I work with a retired Brigadier General....

...who told me why this occured. Suffice to say that there was no grand conspiracy plan on the part of Motherfucker or Shitstain. Instead, it was a failure to adhere to standard oeprational procedures and complacency, which were tolerated by the previous commander (the new commander, who had a total of two months on the job was relieved of his command).

[havocmom]

20. How long was the chain of people who did not adhere to operational standard

And sorry, I am pretty much a cynic where any AF Generals are involved. Fundies run amok at the Academy to the point of much complaint from non fundies and the Chaplain who was charged with investigating the complaints of religious pressures had to resign her commission in order to tell what she actually found out.

To many fundies in the AF Brass.

That general who kept mouthing off about muslims and how his god was better than there job, well, he still stayed around, so the brass must be pretty damned tolerant of bigots, fools, and fundies.

[SidDithers]

23. Now, don't go injecting any rational thinking into that situation...

there are too many DU'ers wearing tinfoil who are sure that those nukes were bound for Iran.

Sid

[malaise]

24. Valid point n/t

[End Of The Road]

16. They've got Blackwater plus the USAF n/t

[havocmom]

18. and who knows how many other private corporate small enforcement groups

The next wars (if not the one we are already in) will be between corporations, using governments as beards. There are no nations anymore. Just projected theater to keep the people confused.

[havocmom]

8. Yep

If cheny can't control a pol via fear
of well his
inhuman, contemptuous sneer

or a pol won't be bought
refusing to grant
cheney control of his every thought

no vice may make fail
cheney's penchant
for blackmail

there is yet a way
shameless cheney has
reluctant pols to sway

Remind them that the folks at home
are easy prey for a lethal drone.

[nannah]

12. can you cite the news of Iran's no longer trading oil in dollars?

I didn't see it, although I have been aware that that is a major factor in our invasion of Iraq as Saddam was also planning to leave the dollar.

[Aviation Pro]

13. Here....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3094607&mesg_id=3094607

[nancyharris]

21. Currency has no intrinsic value

It doesn't make any difference if Iran no longer trades oil for dollars (or any other currency). It has absolutely no effect on the price of oil or the value of the dollar. The price of oil rises and falls with demand and available supplies. The value of the dollar rises and falls with America's economic inflation / deflation.

[Aviation Pro]

25. Really?

Then why do we work for dollars if it has no natural value?

Welcome to DU.

[nancyharris]

26. The value of a dollar

is equal to the amount of goods and services you can purchase with it. It is not backed by anything of intrinsic value (like gold or silver). If importers in Japan use Euros rather than dollars to purchase oil, it will have no effect on the dollar's value (or the price of oil).

Iran doesn't need US dollars because they purchase very few goods or services from the United States nor do they invest their profits in American businesses. The United States also does not purchase any oil from Iran. This is a complete non-issue.

[sandnsea]

22. Most of the money is already out of the US anyway n/t