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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:53 AM
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Tancredo Says He's Boycotting Univision Debate
Give Tom Tancredo credit for one thing: When it came time to decline the invitation to attend this Sunday's Republican debate on Spansh-language channel Univision, he didn't opt for the flimsy "scheduling conflicts" excuse. Instead, he's saying that the very idea of a debate in Spanish is un-American.

“It is the law that to become a naturalized citizen of this country you must have knowledge and understanding of English, including a basic ability to read, write, and speak the language,” Tancredo said in a release. “So what may I ask are our presidential candidates doing participating in a Spanish speaking debate? Pandering comes to mind.”

Tancredo, whose campaign is centered on a hardline stance against illegal immigration, didn't go as far as saying speaking Spanish itself is a bad thing, but did say that it shouldn't be part of this race. "Bilingualism is a great asset for any individual but it has perilous consequences for a nation," he said. "As such, a Spanish debate has no place in a presidential campaign."





I just wonder how Tancredo can boycot one of his own
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:57 AM
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1. He really is one cranky bastard, ain't he?
I wonder if he boycotts Taco Bell
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:06 PM
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15. He has a good taste for Mexican food
On my way to Mami's, however, I got a call from his aide. A local Republican had tipped Tancredo off to the fact that Mami's owners marched in the Great American Boycott on May Day 2006. So Tancredo was now driving all the way to Davenport to go to Carlos O'Kelly's Mexican Cafe instead. If his campaign staff was as skilled at finding voters as Mexican restaurants in Iowa, Tancredo would win the nomination.



http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-stein23nov23,0,1777557.column
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:58 AM
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2. i hope he continues to boycott until he boycotts the entire race. good riddance. n/t
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 03:05 AM
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4. Univision is an American company
http://www.univision.net/corp/en/board.jsp

If anyone ever needed further proof that he nothing more than a racist fool, all one has to do is check that out
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 03:14 AM
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5. i'm sure they all are a bunch of racists. and in that spirit--i wish they'd
all boycott then entire election
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:03 PM
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8. American and a GOP supporter
At least the previous owner of Univision was a mayor GOP contributor, don't know about it's executives.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Jerry_Perenchio
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:51 PM
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11. Haim Saban owns it now
Can you say, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haim_Saban
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:12 PM
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16. Supporting democrats and republicans alike?
So he must be very influential in both parties

:think:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 03:03 AM
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3. OOOOOH what a loss that will be.Like Tancredo has the Hispanic vote sewn up! LOL!
and whats with the quote"Billigualism is a great asset for an idividual but has perilous consequences for a nation" Are the GOP that frightened of education? Sheesh.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 05:48 AM
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6. i am not a republican and i don't much like the republican way of thinking...but i applaud tancredo
for refusing to be part of a debate which has no reason for being. i am not a racist either. i was born in cuba. my mother was from mississippi and i am a true blood of what some people call "cuban-american" ... i had american blood running in me (in that cuban soil) long before any of the cubans came here ... but we are electing an American President ... and those Cubans and other Hispanics who have come here who became citizens of this nation are now AMERICANS ... and MARIA SALINAS and JORGE RAMOS and UNIVISION should just give it up alltogether or they should ask their questions in English and the participants answers ought to be in English.

And by the way ... much as Lou Dobbs wants you to belive that illegal immigrants are criminals, or that they have depleted our national treasury ... they have neither depleted our national treasury, nor are they criminals. they are human beings who are being abused by the corporate world (mostly american companies in their native soils and our lou dobbs mentality here in this soil). our national treasury has been depleted by the highway robbery bush and cheney have perpetrated on it.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:27 PM
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9. To exclude Tancredo from the debate will keep hispanics uninformed
Tancredo it's the hart and soul of the anti-hispanic movement why not give him and his hate agenda a change to be expose. Hispanics need to be inform of the wonderful intensions of the "religious right wing", if every day Univision is showing the progress of the Venezuelan opposition it doesn't make a difference to include Tancredo in one of their spots.

:donut:
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:44 PM
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10. This is about inclusion, nothing more
There are people who are eligible to vote who may prefer to get their news or debates in Spanish because they might understand it better. Not that Republicans are about inclusion at all but this is about reaching an audience that may well vote Democratic instead. Boycotting the Spanish debate is certainly no way to win votes among Hispanics and it shows how narrow-minded Tancredo really is. But he's probably no different than the others; he just is more open about his bigotry.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:19 PM
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18. "he just is more open about his bigotry"
I agree, the guy is a bigot but he doesn't look like a hypocrite hiding his agenda.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 06:17 AM
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7. "Bilingualism... has perilous consequences for a nation," (-Tancredo)
Yeah? Like what?

The old Steve Martin bit:
"What happened, what happened?"
"He spoke French! Help him!"
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:53 PM
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12. Can I be really direct here?
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 01:54 PM by JustAnotherGen
Hope everyone understands my intent.

I tried to watch the Univision Democratic Debate - ahem - However, there were no subtitles.

I get TV5 Monde and their 'live' shows have English subtitles for those of us who can't suss out the different dialects of French and/or are weak in our French Language Skills.

Why can't Univision provide subtitles for their Debates? So those of us who don't speak Spanish can hear/see for ourselves in real time for what's going on and being said. I wanted to know if the Democrats were pandering - and I'd like to know 'real time' if the Rethugs are pandering.

Look - I know Tancredo is a bigot . . . but let's face it - his supporters probably don't speak Spanish either. His participating and standing in his 'own truth' would need to be heard by 'his people'. KWIM? Strategically? It would probably be a waste of money for his campaign to send him to the debate for people who are most likely to not vote for him.

This would be like Barack Obama going to a debate being hosted by Fundamentalist Mormons. KWIM?
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:28 PM
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20. Hispanics are not a religion nor fundamentalist
They are part of this great society, they are citizens who according to the FBI reports the number of hate crimes against them have increased in the past year. Many of those hate crimes may be instigated by demagogic politicians like Tancredo. Hispanics need to confront their enemy.
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Solar_Power Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:32 PM
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13. What's the point anyway? Most candidates don't speak Spanish
How would this work?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:40 PM
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23. Translators... which makes his stand that much more
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 10:40 PM by walldude
stupid. The debate will still take place in English and it will be translated for the viewers. No different than if another network was carrying the debate and Univision was reporting on it.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 03:37 PM
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14. "Spanish...shouldn't be part of this RACE." Double entendre!1 n/t
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:38 PM
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22. hope they don't make it an issue like abortion is
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:14 PM
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17. This is the best Subject line EVER!
LOL!
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:21 PM
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19. Interesting position by Tancredo, and may serve his interests
He probably had zero Hispanic support anyhow, and may attract a few more from the narrow-minded fringe.

He says that to become a citizen you have to speak English, so why pander to Spanish speakers? OK, so since there is no religious requirement associated citizenship, why do all the candidates pander to the Churchies?
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:33 PM
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21. Great question
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 12:16 AM
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24. That's why I am upset a Democrat is featured at Tancredo's site with praise.
Heath Shuler of NC introduces an immigration bill that pleases Tancredo.

And makes his fellow Democrats upset with him. He did not discuss it with the leadership.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 01:08 AM
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25. What perilous consequences?
Many nations have more than one language.

But Tancredo is a moran. No wonder he doesn't know that.

Spanish is one of the languages of this nation. So what? What is, is. And it is not disadvantage.
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