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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:25 AM
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Huckabee's OTHER Dumond: Yes, it's just as bad.
Why parole a monster like Green


Gov. Huckabee probably never read the confession of a demented killer named Glen Green before he made the monster eligible for parole.
Green's confession is so depraved, its sadistic details so scary that no sane, responsible adult would consider him for parole.
If the governor didn't read the confession, he is guilty of dereliction of duty.
But if he read the confession and still considers Green deserving of parole, he's certainly unfit to hold office. Who would free a madman who beat an 18-year-old woman with Chinese martial-arts sticks, raped her as she barely clung to life, ran over her with his car, then dumped her in the bayou, her hand reaching up, as if begging for mercy?
We're publishing the gruesome picture of Green's victim on the front page because we believe her hand is reaching up to demand justice.
In usual fashion, Huckabee's office didn't even contact the victim's family about the clemency.
Although he's required to by the Constitution, the governor, as is his custom, won't say why he granted clemency to this crazed killer (over the unanimous objections of the Post-Prison Transfer Board).
Huckabee apparently listened to Green's minister (and a friend of the governor), who thinks the murder was an accident and Green was forced to confess.


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http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_07_21_04/huckabee5.html
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:28 AM
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1. Grrrecommended
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:29 AM
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2. Clearly Dumond wasn't just an 'oops wrong person' type thing
What kind of 'family values' governor would allow monsters like this back on the street. You want to give clemency? GIve it to the kids forced to serve jail terms for non-violent crimes like drug use. We're taking non-criminals and dumping them into jail where they're turned into criminals upon release.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:36 AM
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7. It defies logic. But we can preume his twisted morality sees drug users as evil.
and those he granted clemency to were done for one reason only- hubris.

As Governor, when someone he wanted to impress asked him to intervene, Huckabee couldn't help himself.

It was more important to do the favor and appear a 'big man' to the person making the request.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:36 AM
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9. He was lazy and trusted a friend and thought he could lob something at Clinton.
Democracy Now! yesterday presented a political timeline yesterday showing that there was strong Republican motivations to embarrass Clinton... This pardon happened right after Clinton left office.

Up to now I had successfully avoided an actual description of the murder. I wish I hadn't seen this thread.

Happy HOlidays
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:10 AM
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31. At least the evil pot smokers will stay behind bars.
Imagine the horrendous twinkie, chocolate, chips and taco catastrophe!

THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

We know Fuckabee didn't.

I bet * votes for him, if he actually bothers at all.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:31 AM
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3. His minister thought the murder was an accident?
Beating with martial arts sticks and then running over her? An accident?

This is outrageous.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:32 AM
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4. This had BETTER reach the corporate media. It's depraved. The Killer and the Pol.
Huckabee is one sick puppy.

Please everyone, read the whole article.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:35 AM
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5. There's more
he tried to pardon another sick murderer, and was stopped only because a young prosecutor sued him over it. I'll be posting that story soon.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:31 PM
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26. "god" didn't tell him to do this by any chance, did he --- ????
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:18 AM
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32. Called him right up.
He may be more deranged than the chimperor.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:36 AM
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6. An accident . . . yeah, that's the ticket
Gee, I know I'll feel safe if Huckabee has an entire nation full of jail cells to pick and choose from for his clemency grants, rather than some small southern state.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:37 AM
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33. Henry Lee Lucas may finally be 'pardoned' now. Posthumously, of course.
If * hadn't pardoned him already. I remember reading he had high class living in Texas, very nice.

Is Richard Rameriz still alive? Fuckabee's kind of killer.

Sure is, dammit. And he'll only be 12yo in February.

Ricardo "Richard" Muñoz Ramírez (born February 29, 1960<1> in El Paso, Texas) is a convicted American serial killer awaiting execution on California's death row at San Quentin State Prison. Prior to his capture, Ramírez was dubbed the "Night Stalker" by the news media as he terrorized California.

Scary point you make, gratuitous.

Too scary.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:36 AM
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8. 5rh recommendation--and another nail in that prick's coffin! n/t
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:37 AM
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10. Bush* gleefully puts people to death while Huckabee lets confirmed killers free on society
Aren't Republicans swell people?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:00 AM
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12. bu$h did that too, while playing at being gov. of Texas.
Can't remember the killer's name that george set free. :shrug:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:40 AM
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34. Three names,
Henry Lee Lucas.

Bunch of fricken socio/psychopaths.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:56 AM
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11. Before moving on from DUMOND, the NYP's role in DUMOND
*******QUOTE*******

http://poynter.org/forum/view_post.asp?id=12974


.... The columnist played a critical role in the release in Arkansas of Wayne Dumond, championing the convicted rapist as innocent and a victim of Clinton family politics.

Dumond went on to rape and kill another woman. The case is currently dogging the presidential campaign of Mike Huckabee, the Arkansas governor in 1999 when Dumond was paroled.

Here's a 1996 Dunleavy column pressing for Dumond's release:

And here's an NYPost archive tease of a column five years later, with
Dunleavy outraged that Clinton had not pardoned Dumond. ....


Dunleavy repeatedly pressed Huckabee to free Dumond, in his columns an in personal queries to the then-governor. In the end the parole board saved Huckabee from making the decision (reportedly under pressure from Huckabee, although he now denies this.)

In any case, Dunleavy made Dumond's release a national cause. Yet he has maintained silence since Dumond's arrest in the 2001 rape-murder.

I've never met Dunleavy, but he has a reputation as a standup guy. So let's hear it: Freedom of speech is at stake, Steve. We need to know your innermost thoughts: What were you thinking when you championed this murderer? What do you think now?


********UNQUOTE*******

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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:07 AM
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13. Huckabee granted more clemencies in 8 years as governor
than the previous 3 governors had in 18 years. He routinely granted clemency or commuted sentences for violent criminals.

http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2004/07/16/News/257786.html
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:14 AM
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15. ...who "found Jesus" n/t
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:45 AM
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35. And * was willing to execute
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 01:48 AM by vickiss
the mentally challenged, the completely insane, the innocent and women.

* has ordered the execution of more prisoners than any governor in history, not counting the Native American massacres.

I feel sicker.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:12 AM
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14. This ain't gonna go over too well with the authoritarian crowd in the GOP
and, they have a pretty large bloc
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:18 AM
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16. Holy cow! Huckabee was not a beloved Governor. What made him think none of this crap would ever come
out? His arrogance, avarice and ignorance? Huckabee's NOT going to be the RW nominee.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:02 AM
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17. K&R, people need to know about these kind of convoluted decisions
Huckabee makes regarding the safety of the citizens. It would also indicate other kinds of delusional thinking by him. I would really love to know what kind of a person would parole someone like this. I can't find any rationale at all for something like this. There are some horrible people who cannot be let loose in our society and this person is certainly one of them.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:03 AM
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18. My God, that alone is proof he is unfit....
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:22 AM
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19. That other site that starts with an 'FR' has picked up the story as well.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1936071/posts?page=16

Seems some think Huck's pardons were done because he's not a 'conservative'!
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:28 AM
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20. This story is coming from Huckabee's arch rival, Fred Thompson!
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:43 AM
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21. Opposition Research --they bearly cracked the file on Huckleberry yet...
You don't think the other candidates' opposition researchers have been sitting on their hands for the last 3 years do you?

There is an oppo file on every candidate running, some organized by volumes.

It is always a question of when is the right time to publicly dump the worst of it to maximize the damage done.

Well, Huckabee is moving up and his former leading rivals are moving down in the polls... so now must be the optimum time.

Hang on Huckleberry, you are going to have to do more than say it is not true. And if Huckabee's Campaign puts out a version of facts that is provably untrue he can say good-bye Repub Nomination.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:53 AM
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36. Or done now to minimize the damage next November. We know, too well, how short of a
memory the masses have become.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:49 AM
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22. Send this to all the media, or should we wait until he wins the
nomination.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:51 AM
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23. he just as unfit as Bush.
what a fucking nut.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:37 PM
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24. kick
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:45 PM
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25. This huckster really hates women....
this religious wingnut is just like *...a true misogynist and sadist.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 04:57 AM
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40. Don't they all?
The good 'ol boys network is alive and well. Crimes against women and children are easily forgiven. Heck, Huckabee and Bush would probably pardon Hitler if he told them he had been born-again. But no pardons ever for the women and minorities who find Jesus or for the mentally disabled.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 11:45 AM
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41. So true...
the only war that is going well for W is his War Against Women.

Doesn't the Bible mention something about 'false prophets?' Do any of these born again sheep THINK? Goddess gave 'em a brain to use, right?
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:15 PM
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27. Huckabee...what an absolutely loathsome dirtbag.
He puts the :puke: in re:puke:
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:19 PM
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28. Just as in his poll numbers
Huckabee will tell you that God did it. God stuffed the polling box and God told him to release Dumond and Green.

He is as dangerous as romney.
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 12:30 AM
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29. MINISTERS HAVE NO PLACE IN LEGAL PROCEEDINGS
LET ALONE GOVERNMENT
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:07 AM
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30. Huckabee is a walking zombie ...

The other Republican candidates will pummel him with this. This isn't a parole system out of control. It's a governor explicitly freeing violent felons on the basis of how hard they thump a bible. The other pukes' won't mention the bible thumping part, but I expect that part about driving over the victim several times will get a lot of play.

The Huckabee campaign will be dead in the water by the time Iowa caucuses. He's a walking zombie. My fear is that blankman Fred Thompson will move up. He's arrogant and "awshucksy" enough to make a second Reagan presidency.


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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:05 AM
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37. The Huckster is a piece o'work
He let hundreds of criminals loose from prison including at least 12 murderers. County prosecutors were complaining loudly about him releasing violent criminals.

But he has many more "issues" that make him unfit to be dog catcher, imo.

For an overview, read this aricle from Salon written by the Editor of the Arkansas Times, a long time journalist in Arkansas:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/11/13/huckabee/print.html
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:14 AM
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38. Not another one who hears the "voive of god" telling him to release Green.
His minister talked the gov into it? Talk about demented.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 04:26 AM
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39. Charming
Boss Hawg for president.
Every one of these guys is worse than the one before.
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