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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:06 PM
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Willie Horton & Wayne Dumond - Dukakis and Huckabee

Wayne Dumond, rapise that Huckabee
helped parole who then murdered.

Willie Horton was a furloughed criminal in Massachusetts during the term of Gov Mikke Dukakis (D).

Dukakis did not know Horton.
Dukakis did not advocate for his release
After the incident with Horton, Dukakis eventually got rid of the furlough
program


Wayne Dumond was a paroled rapist in Arkansas during Mike Huckabee's term as Governor.

Huckagee met with Dumond's wife who appealed for a commutation of the sentence for rape.
Huckabee heard form the victim who told him the rapist would do it again if released.
The public found about the proposed commutation and Huckabee had to withdraw plans
Huckabee lobbied the pardons board hard for a parole and got it; then denied he ever
did that.

DUMOND WAS RELEASED AND PROMPTLY GAGED AND SUFFOCATED A WOMAN NEAR KANSAS CITY MISSOURI.

This is not Huckabee's Willie Horton. Huckabee knew the case first hand, wanted to commute
the guy, and got him a pardon. Huckabee is in the direct lie of causation to the death of the
woman murdered by Dumond.

There's no comparison to Dukakis. It's much, much much worse.


References:

Docuents Expose Huckabees Role (Dumond Case), Murray Waas
Minister of Death - Mike Huckabee, Michael Collins
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:08 PM
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1. Get a load of the ears on that guy!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:09 PM
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2. This is fatal to Huckabee's campaign. He blew it, big time, and never
admitted his own guilt, never accepted responsibility. He's actually leading in GOPer polls right now ahead of Rudy, and I hope they nominate him. This is not survivable.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:09 PM
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6. Right. It's just waiting and Fred Thompson and Romney and both
doing negatives on this and other issues where he's exposed. Huckabee knew this was a bad deal and
he did it, personally. He's the one candidate, on both sides of the divide, who is guaranteed to
lose Missouri. He'd be buried there and rightfully so. The parole board, as I understand it, had
Dumond leave Arkansas as part of the deal.

It always amazes me what these politicians think they can over come when they run.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:26 PM
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7. Yep--why Rudy would think we would forgive 3 wives, and why Huckster
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 02:27 PM by wienerdoggie
thinks we'll forgive his terrible actions that led to at least one death (possibly two)--totally escapes me. I predict Romney will be the nominee, if Rudy doesn't pull out of his tailspin. Thompson's a dud, McCain is just too damn old and tired. Romney's worst dirt appears to be Pedro and Enrique working on his lawn. He'll be the last guy standing.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:53 PM
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14. I think you're right but...
McCain may reanimate, although I think lots of people have his number.

They have not used Rudy's drag performances, clearly merriment, but really strange video for
lots of folks I suspect.

Romney - manikin in the Oval Office. It will be like Disney World with that Abe Lincoln robot.
They can just put an "8 Ball" logic in the Romney bot and have random answers to policy issues.

Better than Bush;)
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:35 PM
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11. Well, to his credit, he's using the old Condi defense...
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 03:55 PM by Window
but, "None of us could've predicted what Dumond could've done when he got out."




:sarcasm:

Edited to add quote and link:


"There's nothing any of us could ever do," Huckabee said Sunday on CNN when asked to reflect on the horrific outcome caused by the prisoner's release. "None of us could've predicted what Dumond could've done when he got out."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/04/documents-expose-huckabee_n_75362.html


Peace:thumbsup:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:54 PM
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15. Brutal...
...but necessary!

:thumbsup:
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:09 PM
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3. except for one little thing
Willie Horton was black. and we all know that it is much worse to let some oversexed maniacal black man out, they can't help themselves but take advantage of our virginal white daughters and fine, upstanding Christian wives.

the Negroes are coming! the Negroes are coming! someone call Lee Atwater!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:33 PM
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8. You're right
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 02:34 PM by autorank
The double standard is apparent. For example, after getting Dumond parole, this prisoner was
executed even though everyone agreed that he was schizophrenic. Since that didn't just pop
up the clear implication was that he was that way when he committed the murder and there was
evidence of that. Nevertheless, the state of Arkansas administered (forced according to his
lawyer) anti psychotic medication, which relieved the psychotic state considerably. The state
then said, hey, this guy's mentally competent so we can now execute him. And they did...no
forgiveness, like that for Dumond.

One guy remains a threat, and he gets out (and kills again).
Another guy, Charles Singleton, has a serious mental illness, just wants to avoid execution, and he's
better becauseof medication, he gets killed by the state.


Charles Singleton, Executed by State
of Arkansas

The Willie Horton factor may not be as strong with Dumond. However, in one state, Missouri, it
will be far more influential. They remember the crime and also the fact that Arkansas let Dumond
out with the stipulation that he leave the state. Oops!
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:10 PM
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4. And didn't they all hang the furlough program on Dukakis' neck even
though he inherited that rogram as Governor?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:35 PM
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9. Right, doesn't this look like a double standard.

MSM is sitting this one out until "Huck" gets built up enough to take the hit.

But they don't know how "Huck" will respond when some citizen raises this at
some forum or another, it will happen. If huck kirks out, that will be justice
delayed.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:11 PM
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5. It gets worse...
Huck released Dumond because the victim was a relative of Clinton's, and Dumond was painted as a victim by the right.

The imprisonment of Dumond was dubbed Bill Clinton's "biggest crime". Check out the Freepers on this in 2000...

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38d06cee1158.htm

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:44 PM
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10. So much sleaze, so little time.
Since I wrote http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0712/S00059.htm">Mike Huckabee - Minister of Death" I've received emails from lots of folks with more "Huck" stories.
Some I'd found previously, some are new. They're all documented. The Clinton connection is really
a cheap diversion, as you know. The victim was a distant cousin but referred to as a "cousin," big
difference, there had been no connection. They the right claimed that the arrest was due to a local
law enforcement figure who was making it political.

"Aside from the 1985 rape conviction, DuMond had also been previously arrested for sexual assaults
in 1972, 1973 and in 1976."

http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/sexual_assault/severed_penis/7.html

This might have provided a clue as to the viability of a parole given the recidivism rate of sex
offenders.

Guy Tucker (D), the governor who Huckabee followed, is also blamed by Huckabee for this. "Huck" says
Tucker had it in the works. The lies are just thrown out since this contradicts the Clinton
lieniency charge.

There's no end of it. "Huck" is cornered by his actions and his denials, WHICH ARE LIES

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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:47 PM
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12. The real Willie Horton (Detroit Tiger on the 68 World Series team)
Willie Horton of the Detroit Tigers is my all-time favorite baseball player. I have never forgiven Bush the first for those ads using a man with the same name to trash a political candidate!

I read baseball's Willie Horton's autobiography (which he signed for me at a game last summer). He is such a nice guy, and has done so much for kids in the Detroit area.

I'm cranky, but I feel the need to point out the good Willie Horton, so that no one ever gets the two men mixed up!
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 04:25 PM
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13. Huckabee or a reply from him coming up on CNN
next.


He's on now defending himself.




Peace:thumbsup:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:56 PM
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16. Share the news, I'm still working.
I'm sure he'll be outraged and lie his ass off.

If it's any one with a brain questioning, he should go down if that's the deal at "management" HQ.

If they let him slide, that's OK, Pat Robertson's 700 Club will do a special;)
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