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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:08 PM
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A key ally for the anti-Chavez crowd here: Donald Rumsfeld in WaPo
Obviously, Rumsfeld should know something about what's democratic and what aint, right?

He kind of gives away the game when he lists free trade agreements as the way to combat Chavez.

The Washington Post published this so Rummy could remind us what a threat to democracy Chavez is. I hope his next column is on his former boss.

Are Rumsfeld & the neocon's sham democracy and return to feudalism with everything privatized and gov't going to the highest bidder what you want for us here in the states too? Or do you think they'll only do it to the brown people down south?



Today the people of Venezuela face a constitutional referendum, which, if passed, could obliterate the few remaining vestiges of Venezuelan democracy.
The world is saying little and doing less as President Hugo Chávez dismantles Venezuela's constitution, silences its independent media and confiscates private property. Chávez's ambitions do not stop at Venezuela's borders, either. He has repeatedly threatened its neighbors. In late November, Colombia's president, Alvaro Uribe, declared that Chávez's efforts to mediate hostage talks with Marxist terrorists from the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, were not welcome. Chávez responded by freezing trade with Colombia.

With diplomatic, economic and communications institutions designed for a different era, the free world has too few tools to help prevent Venezuela's once vibrant democracy from receding into dictatorship. But such a tragedy is not preordained. In fact, we face a moment when swift decisions by the United States and like-thinking nations could dramatically help, supporting friends and allies with the courage to oppose an aspiring dictator with regional ambitions.

The best place to start is with the prompt passage and signing of the Colombian free trade agreement, which has been languishing in Congress for months. Swift U.S. ratification of the pact would send an unequivocal message to the people of Colombia, the opposition in Venezuela and the wider region that they do not stand alone against Chávez.
It would also provide concrete economic opportunities to the people of Colombia, helping to offset the restrictions being imposed by Venezuela -- and it would strengthen the U.S. economy in the bargain.

The importance of the Venezuela-Colombia clash goes beyond turmoil in the U.S. back yard. The episode can help us understand what's at stake in a new age of globalization and information, an age in which trade networks can be as powerful as military alliances. Extending freedom from the political sphere to the economic one and building the global architecture, such as free trade agreements, to support those relationships can -- and should -- be a top priority for the United States in the 21st century.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/30/AR2007113001800.html">FULL TEXT
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:09 PM
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1. You are either with Chavez or with the neocons!
Edited on Sun Dec-02-07 11:10 PM by LoZoccolo
Chavez is destroying his constitution to prevent terra!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:11 PM
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2. it's not working. the harder you guys spin, the more transparent you are.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:13 PM
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3. Transparent?
Yes, I am speaking in coded words about my opposition to Chavez, lol. I'm being ambiguous!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:13 PM
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4. Yeah-yeah, we anti-CHUM peeps REALLY luerve RUMSFELD!1 n/t
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:17 PM
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6. RUMSFELD IS AWESOME BECAUSE HE IS AGAINST CHAVEZ AND
THERE ARE ONLY TWO POSSIBLE SIDES, NEOCONS AND CHZVEZ don't you know?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:29 PM
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10. ,,,
:hi: You are fine, vintage DU!1
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:17 PM
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5. I am no fan of either man
Both are zealots from opposite sides. Chavez is interested in controlling his country for life, the other is a washed up right winger. You see, I don't like either man. Color me intellectual.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:23 PM
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7. Rummy and Hugo a both scumbags...
Neither has any respect for the Constitutions of their nations.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:26 PM
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8. Who's your daddy?
:D


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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:27 PM
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9. that pretty much sums it up in three words.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 12:52 AM
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11. I have no more use
for a left wing dictator then a right win dictator.
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 12:56 AM
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12. Either you're with Comrade Chavez, or you're with Bush!!!!!

Off with your imperialist head!
Viva la hugolucion!


:nopity:
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 01:03 AM
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13. Logical Fallacy
David Duke supports Cindy Sheehan's anti-war efforts. So does that make Cindy a racist? Of course not!!

I don't support outsider meddling into Venezuela's internal politics, but I also never trust a politician.

It'll be a happy day when this administration and their toadies are completely out of power.


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