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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:51 PM
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Bill Moyers Journal: *End Game in the Holy Land.*..Rev. Hagee and his "Evangelicals"
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 04:03 PM by KoKo01
I guess it's not just the NeoCons who want to Bomb, Bomb, Iran!

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Bill Moyers Journal: End Game in the Holy Land...Rev. Hagee and his "Evangelicals for Israel"
November 30, 2007

{Moyers focuses on their canvassing of Congress drumming up support for their cause)

"If a line has to be drawn, draw it around Christians and Jews. We are united."
-Pastor John Hagee, CUFI Founder

John Hagee, along with other Christian Evangelical leaders, created Christians United for Israel (CUFI) less than two years ago, yet it has already grown into one of the largest and most politically influential Christian grassroots organizations in the country.

"When 50 million evangelical bible-believing Christians unite with five million American Jews standing together on behalf of Israel, it is a match made in heaven."


Dr. Hagee founded and is the Senior Pastor of Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas, a non-denominational evangelical church that has more than 18,000 members. He is also the President and CEO of John Hagee Ministries, which he says boasts a television and radio audience of 99 million homes.

At the recent annual CUFI summit in Washington, D.C., prominent politicians were present to pledge support for this growing movement, including Senators John McCain, Joseph Lieberman, House Minority Whip Roy Blunt, as well as former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. Lieberman particularly sang Hagee's praise:

"He is a Ish Elokim, a man of God and those words really fit him...like Moses he's become a leader of a mighty multitude, even greater than the multitude that Moses led from Egypt to the promised land."

CUFI considers its defining issue to be the growing challenge of radical Islam, particularly as relates to the security of Israel and the United States. CUFI is incresingly concerned by Iran and its potential nuclear threats. Hagee often alludes to Nazi Germany in order to underline what he believes to be the gravity of the situation:

"Ladies and gentlemen, we are reliving history. It is 1938 all over again," Hagee explains in a 2007 speech. "Iran is Germany. Ahmadinejad is Hitler. And Ahmadinejad, just like Hitler, is talking about killing the Jews."

Theology of Christian Zionism:

Increasingly, some American evangelical Christians have emerged to form an alliance with Israel. Citing Biblical prophecy, this group of evangelicals call for all of the West Bank to remain in Israeli hands, and they oppose any two-state solution. Sometimes called Christian Zionists, they believe that a Christian Messiah will return to earth in Jerusalem. They have joined with conservative Israeli politicians to oppose any division of the city.

Learn about the foundation of this movement through a greater understanding of some of the key components:

more....

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/11302007/profile.html


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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:55 PM
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1. Hagee is another RW lying ass!
I watched this twice yesterday.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:26 PM
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11. And undoubtedly Hagee has a Wide Stance on the issue of republicon diaper sex
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 05:29 PM by SpiralHawk
Since the republicon's "annointed ones" are apparently so enamored of "peculiar sexual tastes..."

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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:56 PM
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2. Tivo'd it last night
and have been afraid to watch it! :P

He's a ridiculous blowhard and wow, stepping to to fill Jerry Falwell's shoes.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 06:45 PM
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18. Hubby couldn't watch it he was so angry about Hagee..........
I find watching stuff online takes away some of the anger from viewing it on TEE VEE..

Don't know why that is...but maybe it's because it's more "distanced" on the internet. :shrug:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:00 PM
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3. Hagee is one scary dude. n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:02 PM
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4. Hagee:Strike Iran on Moyers
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:03 PM
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5. they seem to have forgotten the part about israel being destroyed
that will 'fulfill prophecy'. how convenient.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:05 PM
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7. and the rest of the middle east!
They want to attack Iran with a pre-emptive strike too! They're fucking nuts! :grr:
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:03 PM
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6. It's ironic that each group is using the other(since they think others will be excluded from heaven)
RW Christian fundamentalists believe the Jews will usher in the end times and return of Jesus, but they don't think the Jews will get into Heaven because they don't recognize Jesus as the Messiah.

Jews are using the RW Fundamentalists support to advance their objective of securing backing from other countries which will ensure their own security needs are met.

Ironic.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:10 PM
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8. US foreign policy being dictated by religious insanity
in one of the most volatile regions of the world. Lovely.:eyes:

Reading this about Lieberman, I once again feel glad that I never cast a vote for him. WTF was Gore thinking?
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:12 PM
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9. I can't get that video to play all the way through.
it keeps cutting out right in the middle.:argh:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:15 PM
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10. See you in the Religion forum, KoKo01..my post about the show.. last night got 86ed
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 05:15 PM by SoCalDem
apparently we can no longer discuss this in GD, even in a lightearted way..

My post had 12 R's & no one was being mean, and yet....boom.. there it went.. disappeared down the "god-hole" into the dungeon alongside guns , 9-11 & I/P....

Boy how I wish that posts that mentioned a candidate's name went straight to "their forums"..

It's getting hard these days to decide just what we CAN talk about in GD..

</rant>


I watched Moyers last night..and as always he's spot on.. Every time I see him, I wish he was 40-something, so we would have him around longer .. I could watch him all day :)

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 09:56 PM
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12. tiptoeing....
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 10:14 PM
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13. Which subcategory, SoCalDem?
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 10:15 PM by Blue_In_AK
Nevermind, I was looking in Groups.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 10:17 PM
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14. Beats me.. I never go "there".. I'll look
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 10:18 PM
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15. found it
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 10:21 PM
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16. I found it...
I remember seeing that post last night. I don't understand why it got moved, either. Oh well -- I agree with you, for what it's worth.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 10:28 PM
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17. Maybe a new crop of mods.. Poor HypnoToad got one locked IN THE LOUNGE
why?

he cut his hand and just wanted some sympathy, but apparently they thought he was asking for medical advice :rofl:

ah well..it's silly-season..

I just get so damned annoyed at all the ones that should get locked, and don't..and I'm being peevish today :)
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