More from the War Piggy Files: Stun Gun Used On Pregnant Woman

[Echo In Light]

Stun Gun Used On Pregnant Woman

Source: Associated Press

TROTWOOD, Ohio - A policeman forced a pregnant woman to the ground and used a stun gun on her when she refused to answer the officer's questions and resisted being handcuffed, authorities said Thursday.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=4897

[L0oniX]

1. Another reason to hate the pigs...

and to those here who think that only criminals hate the police you can go fuck yourselves. Try protesting the WTO in Miami or Seattle sometime!

[Echo In Light]

2. Exactly. The sentiment you're alluding to rings familiar among those who...

Insist that so long as you've "nothing to hide," then you shouldn't be bothered with Big Brother tracking and documenting your every word, move, action, etc

[iamahaingttta]

3. Please read the entire story!

Disclaimer - stun guns should never be used on anybody!

That being said, I believe this is a typical example of DU selective posting. This post is as bad as anything we complain about with the way the Corporate media selects news. Make it sound as if ONLY the cops in this situation were the ONLY ones who did anything bad. Read the whole article.

The woman was a nut. She went to the police station to leave her other child with them because she didn't want him anymore. She wouldn't give them any information and became combative. She didn't tell anyone she was pregnant, and apparently, it wasn't obvious. Yes, the cop who tased her most likely over reacted. I would imagine that the person who posted this has never been in a situation even remotely like this and would probably have reacted badly as well. I don't know.

I believe the OP was simply an effort to get people to react by saying things about how bad cops are. There's an agenda behind it, and I think it's wrong. "War Piggy Files." Yep, there's an agenda behind it. What do YOU do for a living?

Disclaimer - stun guns should never be used on anybody. I'm not a cop and don't particularly like cops. However, I have CHOSEN not to be a cop because I do not want the responsibility of being in a position like this. I don't want to be in a position to be called a "War Piggy."

'Nuff said...

[Gato Moteado]

4. if a cop can't subdue a young lady without tasing her, he's in the wrong line of work

according to the article, she was acting strange and trying to leave. she was not assaulting him. and the fact that he didn't know she was pregnant is not a good excuse.

this behavior by the cop is absolutely unacceptable and he should be relieved of his duties immediately and a full investigation should be underway.

no way should we tolerate this kind of shit. what will we be tolerating next? waterboarding parking offenders? i don't think you want to live in a police state, but look around...that's what's going to happen.

[iamahaingttta]

6. For the most part, I agree with you.

However, that was NOT what I was responding to.

I was responding to the "War Piggy" part of the OP, and the selective posting. I was responding to the fact that the OP was DESIGNED to make it sound as if the cops tased a pregnant woman for no apparent reason. The cop tried to handcuff her, and couldn't, and we don't know why. Yes, there should be an investigation and yes, the cop should probably be working at Starbucks instead.

Have YOU ever been in a position like that? How did YOU react? Did YOU deserve to be called a Fascist and a "War Piggy" when YOU made a similar mistake? Has DU become as selectively insane as what we complain about from the "other side" of political spectrum? Are DU members just as susceptible to jump-to-conclusion-ism and hidden-agenda-ism as what we complain about from the CONservatives?

That's what I was responding to...

[L0oniX]

9. When my cousin got back from Vietnam he told me he became a cop to get back at society

Lots of cops are x-vets and have the same mentality. They are a danger to us all. They will beat us when we protest what the government is doing against the will of the people. I'll never trust a cop. They are people and they are not saints.

[peace13]

7. Exactly!

The taser allows officers to be out of shape and dull of mind. A false sense of security. Time after time these frightened cops tase the mentally ill. Makes me glad that there are laws about shooting people because I think that law enforcers would use a real gun more often if permitted.

[varkam]

5. Stop making sense!

Don't you understand? All cops are pure, unbridled evil with a dash of fascism thrown in. In fact, the only reason why they don't go around indiscriminately shooting men, women, and children (especially children) is because they probably couldn't get away with it.

:sarcasm:

ETA That being said, I probably think that this particular officer overreacted. Though I think many of the problems are with the policies that police departments enact. AFAIK, many of the policies encourage taser use before getting physical with people.

[Echo In Light]

8. The reaction to this one is simple to outline:

I'd be willing to go out on a limb and assume that those who posted unfavorable views toward this thread are likewise against impeachment, favor Name Brand candidates, are unconcerned with anti-democratic measures and legislation, are always willing to give the 'authorities' the benefit of the doubt, and of course, are foursquare against lending any credence to "conspiratorial" issues.

I may be wrong...however.

I posted this article as it ties into the rash of threads re pigs tasering people like it's a fuckin' free-for-all. When your country is becoming more and more of a police state, it's wise to monitor everything very closely. And as someone else pointed out, if a cop can't subdue a woman without resorting to using weapons against her...

Ya know, there is a reason so many cops shave their heads a la neo NAZI skinheads.

[iamahaingttta]

11. I'd be willing to go out on a limb...

...to never assume anything. When you assume, you make an ass out of yourself.

I watched the World Trade Center collapse with my own eyes, from my Brooklyn street corner. I "knew" within about the first 10 seconds of watching those buildings burn that:

1 - it was going to be blamed on Islamic terrorists.
2 - the Bush administration was complicit, at the least.
3 - that it changed everything, and was going to be used as the opening of WWIII

I've been watching the Bush family since Poppy Bush had John Lennon killed in anticipation of his assassination of Ronald Reagan. I "knew" that Dubya was going to be the next president in early 1999, and I "knew" he was going to steal it. I think those people are lizard-brained killers and should not be in charge of running a mid-sized supermarket, let alone the most powerful nation on Earth.

I am going to vote for Kucinich in the primary, and have not yet and will never vote for my Senator, Mrs. Clinton. If she gets the nomination, I will vote 3rd party, or maybe write in Al Gore.

"Unconcerned with anti-democratic measures and legislation..." Well now that's just plain silly.

As far as giving the authorities the benefit of the doubt - I think I made it clear that I think the police should never tase anyone, bro. I think I also made it clear that my beef was with the OP, which made it sound like maybe the cops were tasing innocent pregnant women for no reason, rather than wrongly tasing crazy people who were being uncooperative when trying to abandon their children. Again, for the third or fourth time, that is no reason to tase someone, bro, but there is also no reason to make a blanket statement about cops being war pigs and skinheads.

Regarding "lending any credence to 'conspiratorial' issues" is concerned, I am Mister Conspiracy Theory. Do you know why? Because I probably know more than you do. I'll give you an example - I knew that Deep Throat was Mark Felt years before you ever heard his name.

So go ahead and assume things about strangers, if it makes you feel better about the mess that we're in. I'm not going to assume anything about you. I do, however, think that your attitude, as shown by the original post of this thread, and your later responses is quite immature. Yes, the cops go overboard. But no, it's not every time. I've had several experiences with the New York City police, and for the most part they were positive experiences. Just because I ended up in jail during the 2004 convention and had to lay on the floor of the pier waiting to be released, does not mean that I think all New York City cops are evil skinhead war pigs. In fact, the two or three times that I've dealt with them since then, they were all on my side, were very helpful and professional, and were human beings who were just as concerned about the state of the world as you or me. Not all of them are like that, but most are.

So yes, you are wrong. Completely and utterly and 180 degrees wrong.

Finally, the New York City police officer who was the husband of my landlord's daughter was not acting as a fascist war pig skinhead when he went up into the World Trade Center to rescue people on 9/11. He did not come back down...

[varkam]

12. Well you know what they say about assuming things...eom

[Beelzebud]

10. Torture is GOOD.