W00t! Story of 9iu11ani having 'sex on the city' mentioned on GMA!

[Cirque du So-What]

Ordinarily I don't pay much attention to the TV droning on as background noise, but about 10 minutes ago, Good Morning America mentioned Ghouliani's misappropriation of funds to feather his love nests. He's attempting to lay the blame at the feet of the NYPD, but nobody's having any of it. The NYC comptroller was shown, saying, 'this is not the way we do business.'

Glad to see this story is growing legs!

[Gman]

1. If Rudy goes down because of this

that takes out the only real moderate in the bunch. The rest are wingers except McCain who is the Zelig of the GOP candidates and is really a moderate too. But McCain has no chance given the deep hatred in the GOP for him.

The GOP is going to end up running someone to the right of Goldwater. With any luck at all they'll end up with Tancredo. We couldn't have asked for more next November.

[mwb970]

2. Giuliguano is a moderate??

He seems to me to be a hard-line authoritarian extremist. His views on social issues may look "moderate" to you, but his views on governance and the (non-)importance of the Constitution are anything but. He is a scary, far-out wacko who must not be elected.

[rucky]

9. He's a moderate hard-line authoritarian extremist. n/t

[NewJeffCT]

16. Do you think that will be brought up by the media?

He's been painted as a moderate for years in a careful ploy to make him more palatable to most Americans. It will make him look more moderate than Bush, which is what the country is looking for at this time.

[mwb970]

23. Did you see today's NY Times article about Rudy's lies?

It was on the front page, with a long continuation inside detailing numerous examples of misleading and false statements from the Rudester. It was nice to see this obvious aspect of Rudy's nature prominently highlighted at least this once.

Citing Statistics, Giuliani Misses Time and Again
by Michael Cooper

In almost every appearance as he campaigns for the Republican presidential nomination, Rudolph W. Giuliani cites a fusillade of statistics and facts to make his arguments about his successes in running New York City and the merits of his views.

Discussing his crime-fighting success as mayor, Mr. Giuliani told a television interviewer that New York was “the only city in America that has reduced crime every single year since 1994.” In New Hampshire this week, he told a public forum that when he became mayor in 1994, New York “had been averaging like 1,800, 1,900 murders for almost 30 years.” When a recent Republican debate turned to the question of fiscal responsibility, he boasted that “under me, spending went down by 7 percent.”

All of these statements are incomplete, exaggerated or just plain wrong. And while, to be sure, all candidates use misleading statistics from time to time, Mr. Giuliani has made statistics a central part of his candidacy as he campaigns on his record.

For instance, another major American city claims to have reduced crime every year since 1994: Chicago. New York averaged 1,514 murders a year during the three decades before Mr. Giuliani took office; it did not record more than 1,800 homicides until 1980. And Mr. Giuliani’s own memoir states that spending grew an average of 3.7 percent for most of his tenure; an aide said Mr. Giuliani had meant to say that he had proposed a 7 percent reduction in per capita spending during his time as mayor.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/30/us/politics/30truth.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&ref=todayspaper&adxnnlx=1196439007-vpoAT2wqOGAIjlm0yX6xgg

[NewJeffCT]

26. The NY Times is not really mainstream

The day after the Swift Boat ads came out, the Times thoroughly debunked the whole shebang... and, the Swifties still were on the news nightly for a month.

Once it makes USA Today's front page (above the fold) and is a presence beyond the nightly network news (makes it to a morning "news" show, the late night talk shows, etc) then I'll think it's mainstream.

[mwb970]

28. This doesn't quite meet your specs, but it's close.

• The New York Times -- When he cites statistics about his record as mayor, Giuliani is often "just plain wrong:" "In almost every appearance as he campaigns for the Republican presidential nomination, Rudolph W. Giuliani cites a fusillade of statistics and facts to make his arguments about his successes in running New York City and the merits of his views." Often, his statements are "incomplete, exaggerated or just plain wrong. And while, to be sure, all candidates use misleading statistics from time to time, Mr. Giuliani has made statistics a central part of his candidacy as he campaigns on his record. ... 'The mayor likes detail, and uses it frequently on the campaign trail in ways the other candidates don't,' said Maria Comella, a spokeswoman for Mr. Giuliani. 'And at the end of the day, he is making points that are true.'

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/11/whats-new-18.html

It's in their online blog, but it is USA Today, apparently the new paper of record. Maybe it will make it to your specified location yet! And CBS did cover it online so they may eventually mention it when the right people are listening.

Never give up.

[NewJeffCT]

29. I hope so

if they're talking about Rudy issues on Sunday morning talk shows, I'll be happy.

[mwb970]

25. Surprisingly, CBS has an item about Rudy's lies as well.

Giuliani's Stump Stats Often Off The Mark
by Keach Hagey

One unchecked fact has been getting him in a lot of trouble lately. In a recent radio advertisement about his health care proposal, Giuliani, who has had prostate cancer, asserted that his chances of surviving prostate cancer were 82 percent, while his chance of surviving in England would have been only 44 percent. His point was that the American health care system is far superior to England's government-run system, which he refers to as "socialized medicine."

The figure came from an article written by one of Giuliani's health care advisers, but was soon discredited: the actual five-year survival rate in Britain is 74.4 percent - lower than the U.S., but not by much. Romney has recently begun capitalizing on this, saying Giuliani's crime statistics are "about as accurate as his prostate cancer survival numbers for England."

Probably most troubling about the whole thing is that Giuliani stood by the discredited statistic and the ad, though it has since gone off the air.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/30/the_skinny/main3557897.shtml

That last bit reminds me of bush and his "Saddam kicked the inspectors out" rewrite of history, which he continues to say even though we were all there and we know it's false. What is wrong with these people anyway?

[NewJeffCT]

31. That's good news

more, more, more.

expose him for the a-hole that he is.

[Cirque du So-What]

3. Rootie Toot may pass for 'moderate' at this point in time

but he's surrounding himself with neocon hawk advisors in preparation for assuming office. I'll go the extra mile to get the word out on who I consider the greatest threat to the world in the (increasingly unlikely) event of getting elected.

Rudy Giuliani Has Advisers Who Would Bomb Iran Tomorrow

I used to believe the most dangerous thing about Rudy Giuliani was the fact that, even though he has zero foreign policy experience, he thinks he knows everything there is to know about foreign policy. That's a scary kind of ignorance.

But I was wrong. The most dangerous thing about Rudy Giuliani is his advisers. They are crazy, crazy, crazy. Too crazy to work for Bush, even. Take a look at what TPMTV has to say.

(TPM video at link)

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2007/10/5807_rudy_giuliani_h.html

[Tesha]

5. Huckabee will be the nominee.

And if he runs against Clinton, he'll win.

Tesha

[maine_raptor]

6. God I hope not.

Just what we need: A President that thinks the Earth is 6,000 years old.

:hide:

[Tesha]

15. Don't you know? Something like 55% of Americans absolutely agree with him.

And another 27% think we've evolved but only under
God's guidance.

Reference: http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htm

Americans: Dumb as a box of rocks, but not as hard.

Tesha

[Changenow]

7. Don't be so sure

The public isn't going to like Huckabee once they get to know him either. He may be one that Hillary can beat, or any Democrat for that matter. Huckabee isn't ready for the big leagues. There is a reason you don't see family photos, but that's another story.

He was a touchy, thieving, snake in office. It's not a happy story.

[Benhurst]

8. He sounds like another George W. Bush.

[Tesha]

13. Bingo. But better spoken. (NT)

[Tesha]

12. They'll love him. He's folksy, a "Good Christian", and not an "uppity woman". (NT)

[NewJeffCT]

19. That was my thought as well

He's a better spoken version of Bush.

[NewJeffCT]

11. McCain is no moderate

He's only less extreme than the rest of the Republic crowd, making him appear to be moderate. However, it's only because the Republic party has moved so far to the right over the last 30 years.

[Gman]

18. Compared to the rest of the GOP McCain is moderate

His moderation is, to me, defined by McCain-Feingold which is probably also the reason he stands no chance in winning the GOP nod. I think McCain is anything but a radical winger, but he is definitely not liberal.

[BadgerLaw2010]

14. Social issue moderate, but foreign policy uber-hawk surrounded by neocon idiots.

He won't be missed.

[Tesha]

4. Wake me when Ghoul is indicted.

Criminal charges probably ought to be brought,
but are unlikely to ever target the highest-
level perpetrators.

Tesha

[dantyrant]

10. I'd love to see that. Send him to a 'sanctuary jail'

[MissDeeds]

17. The guy has a load of hubris

to think his past wouldn't catch up with him. He must be delusional to believe the Kerik debacle and Judy-gate wouldn't figure into the race - not to mention his questionable actions prior to and following 9/11. But then again, Republicans seem to think they can control and manipulate the media. I wonder where they got that idea?

[NewJeffCT]

20. Probably got the idea

because they've done it time & again since 1980... if these issues really hurt Giuliani, why is he still out in front for the Republican nomination? Those were the folks that many on DU thought would hate Giuliani the most because he was pro-choice and married 3 times.

[Kingofalldems]

21. Too bad this came out now

better if it came out after he was nominated.

[Tesha]

22. Unlike Democrats, the Republicans know better than to nominate a sure loser. (NT)

[mwb970]

24. I just noticed that Rudy's middle initial is "W".

Ruh-roh. (Cue music from "Jaws".)

[Dems Will Win]

27. Legs? You want legs??!!??!

[youthere]

30. Even if this falls by the wayside...

and ghouliani happens to get the nomination..you just KNOW it's going to come back and haunt him again...and again..and again.