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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:17 AM
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Gang arrested trying to sell enriched uranium
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 01:23 AM by seemslikeadream
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2968535.ece





A gang arrested by Slovakian police was trafficking uranium so enriched that it could have been used by terrorists in a dirty bomb, it emerged today.

Two Hungarians and a Ukrainian man were arrested as they tried to sell the uranium last night. The consignment had been tracked by police after it came to their attention inside the former Soviet Union.

A total of 481.4 grams of uranium was found and investigators believe it contained 98.6 per cent uranium-235. Uranium is considered weapons-grade if it contains at least 85 per cent uranium-235.

"According to preliminary information, the material could have been used to make a so-called dirty bomb," Michal Kopcik, a senior Slovakian police official told a news conference today.




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/30/nslovak130.xml

Seized uranium 'enough for a bomb'
By Tom Nicholson in Bratislava and Malcolm Moore
Last Updated: 2:50am GMT 30/11/2007



Smugglers arrested in Slovakia this week had enough weapons-grade uranium on them to make a "dirty" bomb.

The half-kilo of material taken in raids near the Ukrainian border on Tuesday was a processed form of uranium used in nuclear weapons.

"It was enriched enough to be used in various ways for terrorist attacks," said Michal Kopcik, the vice-head of Slovak police


http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1875332007
Trio were trying to sell 99% pure 'bomb' uranium



http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-11-30-voa3.cfm
The International Atomic Energy Agency, which monitors the illicit trafficking in radioactive materials, says, last year, it registered over 250 reported cases of radioactive materials that were stolen, missing, smuggled or in the possession of unauthorized individuals. That is an increase of nearly 400 percent since 2002.


Nuclear experts say smuggled materials generally come out of Russia and other countries of the former Soviet Union, as security at nuclear-related industries has deteriorated since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.

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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:21 AM
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1. K&R! n/t
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:28 AM
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2. but but the Slovaks aren't Muslim are they
could have sworn it was swarthy evil doers we needed to be checking - bet none of these guys was ever pulled up in a random aircraft check - not Muslim, must be OK!
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miles 2 go Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:41 AM
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3. What are they carrying this stuff around in?
Does it say? Wouldn't it likely kill people who were messing around with it?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:45 AM
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5. HOW EASY IS IT TO SMUGGLE?


Because uranium emits a form of radiation that cannot penetrate skin, and is much less radioactive than the polonium used to poison former KGB spy Alexander Litvinenko in London last year, it can be stored and transported with little or no safety measures. Putting it in a lead-lined container would make it difficult or impossible to detect even with the most advanced equipment
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jJNcB0xSVLTvS9Xvomd1tww41LGQD8T7ILAO0
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miles 2 go Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:56 AM
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7. aahhh. Yes that is what I was thinking of
I was thinking fo the poisoned spy and wondering how they could carry it around so easily.
thanks for the reply
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:42 AM
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4. It's OK cause they aren't part of the Axis of Evil.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:46 AM
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6. Command and control for Russian missiles is down the tubes as well
Boogaboogabooga! Look! Over there! Iran is the most dangerous country in the world!
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:37 PM
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8. All enriched uranium and depleted uranium is dirty bomb material....
There is no level of safety with something as toxic as uranium.

We covered Kuwait and Iraq with DU and it's only a matter of time before news of the cancers, birth defects and deaths from exposure become as well known as those from Agent Orange.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:50 PM
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9. Isn't Times on line owned by Murdoch?
Sorry I don't believe this.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:09 PM
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10. No malaise
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 05:17 PM by seemslikeadream
It's in a lot of papers and this is the Times Online

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=1124222741




Slovakian uranium seized
Melbourne Herald Sun, Australia - 8 hours ago
RADIOACTIVE material seized in Slovakia was enriched uranium that could be used in a dirty bomb, police said yesterday. They said they seized 481.4g of the ...

Arrests reveal nuke black market
London Free Press, Canada - 13 hours ago
By WILLIAM J. KOLE, AP BRATISLAVA, SLOVAKIA -- The arrests of three men who allegedly tried to sell contraband uranium for $1 million show how a shadowy ...

Radioactive material was 'uranium'
The Press Association - 16 hours ago
A quantity of radioactive material seized from three men trying to sell it for a million dollars has been identified as uranium. ...

Gang arrested trying to sell enriched uranium
Times Online, UK - 19 hours ago
A gang arrested by Slovakian police was trafficking uranium so enriched that it could have been used by terrorists in a dirty bomb, it emerged today. ...

Seized uranium 'enough for a bomb'
Telegraph.co.uk, United Kingdom - 19 hours ago
By Tom Nicholson in Bratislava and Malcolm Moore Smugglers arrested in Slovakia this week had enough weapons-grade uranium on them to make a "dirty" bomb. ...

Slovakian police foil plot to sell enriched uranium
Taipei Times, Taiwan - 20 hours ago
Alarms over nuclear smuggling were raised on Wednesday night when Slovakian police announced that three men had been arrested in Slovakia and Hungary after ...

Slovak Police Say Seized Radioactive Material Was Uranium
Voice of America - 21 hours ago
By Stefan Bos Officials in Hungary and neighboring Slovakia say police have detained three suspects who were in possession of material enriched enough to be ...

Uranium for 'dirty bomb' seized by Slovak police
Independent, UK - 21 hours ago
By Karel Janicek and William K Jole Enriched uranium that could have been made into a "dirty bomb" by terrorists has been seized by Slovakian police after ...

Trio were trying to sell 99% pure 'bomb' uranium
Scotsman, United Kingdom - 22 hours ago
TWO Hungarians and a Ukrainian have been arrested after allegedly trying to sell uranium enriched enough to be used in a "dirty bomb", police said yesterday ...

Slovak police say 'dirty bomb' uranium seized
AFP - 23 hours ago
BRATISLAVA (AFP) — Hungarian and Slovak police seized enriched uranium that could be used in a "dirty bomb" when they arrested three traffickers in a joint ...

Arrests Highlight Illegal Nuclear Trade
The Associated Press - 23 hours ago
BRATISLAVA, Slovakia (AP) — The arrests of three men who allegedly tried to sell contraband uranium for $1 million show how a shadowy black market for ...

Seized uranium had potential to build nuclear bomb
International Herald Tribune, France - 23 hours ago
By Dan Bilefsky BRUSSELS: The uranium that two Hungarians and a Ukrainian were trying to sell was sufficiently enriched to build a nuclear bomb, ...

Uranium seized in Slovakia might be used for terrorism
Xinhua, China - Nov 29, 2007
PRAGUE, Nov. 29 (Xinhua) -- The enriched uranium that the police seized in east Slovakia on Wednesday, could have been used in the production of a dirty ...

Police arrest trio over alleged 'dirty bomb' plot
ABC Online, Australia - Nov 29, 2007
By Stephanie Kennedy Police in Slovakia have arrested three alleged smugglers and seized enriched uranium that could have been used to make a "dirty bomb". ...

Q&A on Slovakia's Uranium Arrests
The Associated Press - Nov 29, 2007
Slovakia's arrests of three men who allegedly tried to sell contraband uranium for $1 million show how a shadowy black market for nuclear components has ...

Three held for $1m bid to sell ‘dirty bomb’ uranium
Times Online, UK - Nov 29, 2007
Police have arrested three men suspected of attempting to sell enough weapons-grade uranium to make a dirty bomb for $1 million (£500000). ...

Arrests over Slovak 'uranium sale'
Aljazeera.net, Qatar - Nov 29, 2007
Three men suspected of attempting to sell enriched uranium that police said could be used in a "dirty bomb" have been arrested in Slovakia. ...

Uranium siezed at Hungarian border
Radio Netherlands, Netherlands - Nov 29, 2007
Bratislava (29 November) - The Slovakian and Hungarian police have seized a batch of enriched uranium intended for what they believe was the construction of ...

Enriched Uranium Seized in Slovakia Suitable for Dirty Bomb
Deutsche Welle, Germany - Nov 29, 2007
Slovakian police arrested three traffickers near the Hungarian border who were smuggling almost half a kilo (1 pound) of enriched uranium that could be used ...

Slovak raid nets 'bomb' uranium
BBC News, UK - Nov 29, 2007
Uranium seized in Slovakia on Wednesday was enriched enough to be used in a so-called "dirty bomb" to spread radioactive material, police say. ...

Three arrested in Slovakia 'had enough uranium for dirty bomb'
Guardian Unlimited, UK - Nov 29, 2007
Three men arrested in Slovakia for allegedly trying to sell nuclear material had uranium enriched enough for use in a "dirty bomb", Slovak police said today ...

Uranium seized in Slovak police raid
Stuff.co.nz, New Zealand - Nov 29, 2007
A radioactive material seized in a raid on the border between Slovakia and Hungary has been identified as uranium, a Slovak police source said. ...

Slovak police seize enriched uranium
Reuters UK, UK - Nov 29, 2007
By Martin Santa BRATISLAVA (Reuters) - Radioactive material seized in Slovakia was enriched uranium that could be used for a 'dirty bomb', police said on ...

Nuclear Material Seized by Slovak Police Was Uranium (Update2)
Bloomberg - Nov 29, 2007
By Radoslav Tomek and Andrea Dudikova Nov. 29 (Bloomberg) -- Nuclear material seized yesterday by police in Slovakia included enriched uranium capable of ...

Gang arrested trying to sell enriched uranium
Times Online, UK - Nov 29, 2007
A gang has been arrested in Eastern Europe trying to sell enriched uranium, triggering fears that it was going to be used in a radiological dirty bomb by ...

'Uranium suitable for dirty nuke'
CNN International - Nov 29, 2007
BRATISLAVA, Slovakia (AP) -- Two Hungarians and a Ukrainian arrested in an attempted sale of uranium thwarted by police were peddling material enriched ...

Police: Thwarted Sale Involved Uranium
The Associated Press - Nov 29, 2007
BRATISLAVA, Slovakia (AP) — Two Hungarians and a Ukrainian arrested in an attempted sale of uranium were peddling material believed to be from the former ...

Slovak, Hungary police arrest 3 over radioactive sale
Melbourne Herald Sun, Australia - Nov 29, 2007
POLICE in Slovakia and Hungary arrested three people and seized 1kg of "dangerous" radioactive material the suspects were trying to sell for $US1 million. ...

3 arrested in Slovakia and Hungary with uranium
Xinhua, China - Nov 29, 2007
PRAGUE, Nov. 29 (Xinhua) -- Three people have been arrested as they allegedly tried to sell one kilogram of uranium, reports from the Slovak capital of ...

Slovak police say three accused of trying to sell nuclear material
Guardian Unlimited, UK - Nov 28, 2007
Alarms over international nuclear smuggling were raised last night when Slovak police announced that three men had been arrested in Slovakia and Hungary ...

Once-Promising Hungarian-Ukrainian Business Venture Fails to Ignite
Pestiside, Hungary - 14 hours ago
By Pestiside Staff In what regional economic development officials are calling an unexpected blow to improved commercial ties between Hungary and its larger ...

Slovakia: Not Your Average Police Raid
theTrumpet.com, OK - 16 hours ago
Police confiscated weapons-grade uranium during a raid in Slovakia. How much enriched uranium is being peddled that authorities don’t know about? ...

Slovakians arrested for nuclear bomb plot
Malaysia Sun, Malaysia - 17 hours ago
Police in Slovakia have arrested three alleged smugglers and seized enriched uranium that could have been used to make a so-called dirty bomb. police seized ...

Illegal Stockpile of Uranium Seized
ShortNews.com, Germany - 21 hours ago
Two Hungarians and a Ukranian were busted trying to sell enriched uranium, Thursday. The amount was enough for a nuclear bomb, but too small for a warhead. ...

Slovak police seize `bomb` uranium
RussiaToday, Russia - Nov 29, 2007
Slovakian police say Uranium seized on Wednesday was enriched enough to be used in a 'dirty bomb' to spread radioactive material. ...

Enriched Uranium Seized by Hungarian and Slovak Authorities
TransWorldNews (press release), GA - Nov 29, 2007
In a joint operation conducted by Hungarian and Slovak police three men were arrested and charged with carrying materials that could be used to create a ...

Uranium Seized From Three Slovakians
AHN - Nov 29, 2007
Bratislava, Slovakia (AHN) - Police authorities in Slovakia arrested and detained three people found to have possessed Uranium, an element predominantly ...

Radioactive material seized in Slovakia suitable for 'dirty bomb'
Earthtimes, UK - Nov 29, 2007
Budapest - Half a kilo of enriched uranium seized at a Hungarian-Slovak border crossing was suitable for making a "dirty bomb," officials said Thursday. ...

'Dirty bomb' plot busted by police
Metro, UK - Nov 29, 2007
Police have smashed a suspected plot to sell enriched uranium which could have been used to make a deadly 'dirty bomb'. Three men were arrested after trying ...

Slovakia police seize radioactive material
United Press International - Nov 29, 2007
BRATISLAVA, Slovakia, Nov. 29 (UPI) -- Slovakian police said they arrested two people and confiscated 2.2 pounds of radioactive material the suspects had ...

Police say seized radioactive material was suitable for a ...
WKYC-TV, OH - Nov 29, 2007
BRATISLAVA, Slovakia (AP) -- Authorities in Slovakia have arrested two Hungarians and a Ukrainian who they say were trying to sell uranium enriched enough ...

Three arrested in Slovakia and Hungary with uranium
Earthtimes, UK - Nov 29, 2007
Prague, Nov 29 (Xinhua) Czech and Hungarian police in a joint operation arrested three people as they were allegedly trying to sell one kg of uranium, ...

3 Arrested for Selling Radioactive Element
AHN - Nov 29, 2007
Bratislava, Slovakia (AHN) - Slovakian and Hungarian police authorities arrested three men from Slovakia and Hungary for attempting to sell more than 2 ...

Slovak Authorities Seize Radioactive Material
Spiegel Online, Germany - Nov 29, 2007
Slovak and Hungarian police, after a months-long operation, have arrested three people for trying to sell a kilogram of unspecified radioactive material. ...

Slovakia Arrests 3 in Radioactive Sale Bid
Sofia News Agency, Bulgaria - Nov 29, 2007
Three people were arrested late Wednesday in Slovakia and Hungary for trying to sell 1 kg of radioactive material for USD 1 M. Two of the suspects were ...

1kg of radioactive material seized on Slovakian border
Radio New Zealand, New Zealand - Nov 28, 2007
Three people have been arrested on the Slovakia-Hungarian border with 1kg of radioactive material. Police will not yet confirm a report it was enriched ...

Slovakia, Hungary thwart N-smugglers
PRESS TV, Iran - Nov 28, 2007
Three people have been placed under arrest for their attempts at selling one kilogram of radioactive substance in Slovakia and Hungary. ...

Three Arrested For Alleged $1 Million Sale Of Radioactive Material
AHN - Nov 28, 2007
Bratislava, Slovakia (AHN) - Specialists are now examining more than two pounds of an unspecified radioactive material that three people allegedly tried to ...

3 Arrested For Trying To Sell Radioactive Material
KQCA, My58.com, CA - Nov 28, 2007
BRATISLAVA, Slovakia -- Three people have been arrested in Eastern Europe for trying to sell more than two pounds of radioactive material. ...

Three arrested over sale of nuclear material
AXcess News, KY - Nov 28, 2007
By Staff (AXcess News) New York - Three Eastern Europeans were arrested Wednesday after trying to sell what authorities say was two pounds of radioactive ...

Slovak, Hungarian police bust 3 in radioactive sales bid
CBC.ca, Canada - Nov 28, 2007
Nuclear specialists in Slovakia were examining a kilogram of unspecified radioactive material on Wednesday, after it was seized from three suspects alleged ...

Police arrest 3; seize radioactive material in Slovakia
KMEG 14, IA - Nov 28, 2007
AP - November 28, 2007 12:53 PM ET BRATISLAVA, Slovakia (AP) - Police in Slovakia say they have arrested three people for trying to sell more than two ...

Arrests Highlight Illegal Nuclear Trade
The Associated Press - 23 hours ago
BRATISLAVA, Slovakia (AP) — The arrests of three men who allegedly tried to sell contraband uranium for $1 million show how a shadowy black market for ...

3 Arrested in Radioactive Sale Bid
ABC News - Nov 28, 2007
AP BRATISLAVA, Nov 28, 2007 - Slovak and Hungarian police seized a kilo (2.2 lbs) of radioactive material and arrested three people in a joint operation on ...

Arrests in Slovak 'nuclear plot'
BBC News, UK - Nov 28, 2007
Police in Slovakia and Hungary have arrested three people for allegedly trying to sell 1kg (2.2lb) of radioactive material, officials said. ...

Slovak raid nets "bomb" uranium
B92, Serbia - 10 hours ago
Uranium seized in Slovakia on Wednesday was enriched enough to use in a so-called "dirty bomb" to spread radioactive material. The uranium was found during ...

Safeguard Uranium In Old Soviet Union
Wheeling Intelligencer, WV - 17 hours ago
The chill in relations between the United States and Russia has one very unpleasant side-effect, as an incident this week in Slovakia demonstrates. ...

Uranium seized in Slovakia might be used for terrorism
People's Daily Online, China - 20 hours ago
The enriched uranium that the police seized in east Slovakia on Wednesday, could have been used in the production of a dirty bomb and in various forms of ...

'Dirty bomb' uranium seized in Slovakia: police
Turkish Press, MI - Nov 29, 2007
Slovakian police seized enriched uranium that could be used in a "dirty bomb" when they arrested three traffickers near the Hungarian border, officials said ...

Slovak police say enriched uranium seized
France24, France - Nov 29, 2007
Slovak police said Thursday that radioactive material found when they arrested three people near the border with Hungary was enriched uranium which could ...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:50 PM
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12. Thanks
Sorry I'm completely cynical these days. Probably all from the same source.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:25 PM
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11. but..........Oh, No! Not another “Uranium Dirty Bomb” Story!
http://www.fas.org/blog/ssp/2007/11/oh_no_not_another_uranium_dirt.php

Oh, No! Not another “Uranium Dirty Bomb” Story!
According to a recent report from AP, Slovak police arrested people trying to sell highly enriched uranium to undercover agents. According to the police, the material, said to be about a kilogram of uranium, could be used for a dirty bomb. This is a replay of the Podilla case, the so-called “Dirty Bomber,” who was allegedly going to use uranium to make a radiological, or “dirty,” bomb. (The government later dropped reference to the dirty bomb but convicted Podilla on other charges.) I don’t think what the Slovaks have is actually uranium (see below) but, even if it is, dirty bombs are not the problem.

So, people, pay attention: Uranium is not a good dirty bomb material because uranium is not particularly radioactive. I guess because uranium is used to power nuclear reactors and nuclear bombs, people assume it must be highly radioactive. It is not. That is like saying that because coal is used to power furnaces, it must be hot. No, it is just coal, sitting there waiting to get hot when you burn it. But just being coal does not make it hot. The dominant isotope of uranium, U-238, makes up over 99% of natural uranium and has a half-life of about five billion years. That means that if I have a pound of uranium and let is sit and “decay,” or break down into lighter elements, for five billion years, I will have half a pound left. (For comparison, the Earth is about five billion years old.) The lesser isotope, U-235 is 0.7% and has a half life of almost a billion years. This is to say uranium decays very slowly, which is to say it is not very radioactive. One way to think of this is to imagine that, on the day you were born, you swallowed an ounce of uranium and then lived with it inside you until you died and you lived to be 100 years old. Well, in those hundred years, you have lived just two hundred millionths of the half life, so if half of the uranium will decay in a half life, you would expect about one hundred millionth to decay during your lifetime. (The actual math is a bit more complicated because the decay is exponential, not linear, but not far enough different to change the point.) Not a very efficient way to irradiate someone. This is not to say that uranium is harmless. It is very slightly radioactive. In places where the natural rock has uranium in it, houses have higher concentrations of radon and that does have a risk. It is a heavy metal so it is poisonous, just as lead, mercury, cadmium and many other heavy metals are poisonous, but there are far more dangerous radioactive materials in common use in industry that could be used as dirty bomb material.

When the Podilla case came out, FAS did some calculations on the quantities needed to make a dirty bomb using various radioactive materials. Note that to make a large “dirty” bomb using uranium, tons of uranium are required. The greatest danger from uranium from such a device would be having large chunks of uranium metal fall on your head.

As of now (Friday morning) I think the most likely explanation for the Slovak case is that some crooks were trying to scam someone. I don’t think the sample is actually uranium. The Slovak police released a photo of the radiation detector, which I got from the AP. The story from Slovakia makes no sense. You can see photos of the detector and get some specs here. As far as I can tell, it is only a little 2x2” hand held sodium iodide detector. One output on the detector reading is “Bq,” which stands for Becquerels, which is one nuclear disintegration or decay per second. Since the detector is just a hand held device and I don’t know how far the detector is from the source of radioactivity, there is no way it can measure the number of decays so I am guessing that what number really means the number of detected gamma rays. Anyway, I have a table here that tells me that the specific activity of U-238 is 12,445 Bq/g. So if I divide that into the number on the detector, 4.89 x 10^9, I get close to 400kg of uranium. I have to multiply that amount by some large number because the detector is seeing only a small fraction of the total radiation. In addition, the ratios of the U-235 and U-238 do not make sense for any conceivable sample of uranium. Obviously I can’t be sure unless I had the sample and a lab but my suspicion is that someone spiked some material with tiny amounts of some much more radioactive material specifically to fool this detector and hoped to sell it to some gullible person.
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