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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 08:23 PM
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Justices Uphold Welfare Home Searches
The ACLU had challenged a San Diego County policy, saying its warrantless inspections violated privacy rights. The Supreme Court refuses to hear it.
Washington - County welfare officers may conduct routine searches of the homes of welfare recipients to combat fraud under a ruling in a California case that the Supreme Court let stand Monday.

The justices refused to hear a challenge from the American Civil Liberties Union, which contended that San Diego County's policy of requiring home searches without a warrant violated privacy rights.

The 4th Amendment to the Constitution forbids the police to search a residence without a warrant. But the home inspections in San Diego County are different, judges said, because they do not seek evidence of a crime. Instead, they are intended to determine whether welfare recipients qualify for benefits.

The San Diego district attorney adopted a policy in 1997 under which applicants for welfare benefits must agree to a "walk through" of their residence while they are present. The inspectors check on whether the applicant has an eligible dependent child and has the amount of assets claimed. They also check on whether a supposedly "absent" parent lives at the residence. If residents refuse to permit a home visit, they can lose their benefits.

"No applicant has been prosecuted for welfare fraud based upon anything observed or discovered during a home visit," County Counsel John J. Sansone told the high court.

In its suit, the ACLU contended that the mandatory home searches, based on no evidence of wrongdoing, violated the 4th Amendment and its ban on unreasonable searches and seizures.

But a federal judge ruled for San Diego County, and a three-judge panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed that ruling in a 2-1 decision last year. Judges A. Wallace Tashima and Andrew Kleinfeld formed the majority, while Judge Raymond Fisher dissented. Afterward, eight judges filed a dissent and argued unsuccessfully that the full 9th Circuit should reconsider the panel's ruling.

"This case is nothing less than an attack on the poor," said Judge Harry Pregerson, writing for the dissenters. "This is especially atrocious in light of the fact that we do not require similar intrusions into the homes and lives of others who receive government entitlements. The government does not search through the closets and medicine cabinets of farmers receiving subsidies."

Pregerson noted that San Diego is alone among California's 58 counties in mandating home searches for welfare recipients, but "this ruling will surely set a new standard," he added.

The ACLU asked the Supreme Court to take up the case of Sanchez vs. County of San Diego, but it was dismissed in a one-line order Monday.

Link: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/112707F.shtml

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 08:35 PM
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1. Social Security recipients are next
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 08:51 PM
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3. so if I have older family furniture/pictures/books will they force me to sell those items deemed
collectibles or antiques??

Where will they draw the line as to what is a family heirloom and what is functional furniture that just happens to be old? I am thinking of an older bookcase I have that I picked up cheap at a garage sale.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 08:47 PM
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2. my mom showed me a list from the county back in 1961 where they determined she didn't
need a changing table and would have to sell it. They went through the house and made a list of the furniture and it's value and there were a few other items they decided she didn't need. She had 4 children ages 6, 4, 3, 2 and a newborn.

Since aid was minimal back then she ended up allowing my abusive father back in the house. I wonder how all of us would have turned out had he not remained in the house those additional 10 years. But then again, my youngest brother would not have been conceived..
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 09:16 PM
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4. They used to do this
back in 'the day' and many a person would have to hide her boyfriends shaving kit and other
personal items but it was outlawed, I think. I remember hearing about it back in the 70's...
Usually people ratted on them but I don't think people are ratting others out anymore with
the 'No Snitches" meme that's been going around lately. If you are a renter in public housing,
they do do yearly inspections before your lease is renewed... This sounds vindictive.

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