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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 05:52 PM
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Oh great, now Wi-Fi "causes" autism...
Make up some bullshit, and the suckers fall for it...

http://skepdic.com/refuge/funk59.html
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 05:53 PM
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1. Good thing Jenny McCarthy has a cure for autism.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 05:54 PM
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2. Huh?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 05:58 PM
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6. Jenny McCarthy (the model? actress? has been?) claims to have cured autism.
Using alternative medicine, of course.

All you have to do is buy her book.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 05:59 PM
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7. Yeah, like the doctor in the article "cured" a 5-year old autistic boy...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 06:13 PM
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9. She is a diet groupie
She has some interesting things to say. But there is zero scientific evidence that diet makes a bit of difference in an autistic kid. Anecdotal evidence, like Jenny McCarthy, but they can't duplicate her success in a scientific study.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 06:15 PM
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10. Well, duh.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 07:11 PM
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13. She does not claim to have "cured" autism, only to have
reversed it's effects in her son through chelation therapy and nutrition. Chelation therapy and nutritional changes to affect behavior are NOT alternative meds, btw.

Have you read her book? Watched the interviews with her on the telly?

She has turned her son's life around big time, she has given him one he did not have before, wouldn't have had without her and should be commended and admired for her intense research and commitment to help her son have a real life.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 07:13 PM
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14. Oh, I'm sorry, "healing autism."


:eyes:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 07:43 PM
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15. Whatever.
:crazy:

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 07:45 PM
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16. I know. Pretty stupid stuff.
:eyes:
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 08:01 PM
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21. Chelating a healthy child is abuse...
Recently a five year old autistic boy died because his parents had him chelated. So I guess you could say he was cured.

There is no medical proof that chelation works to improve the functioning of autistic individuals. It's snakeoil pure and simple and the only proponents are those that believe mercury is the culprit.

Jenny McCarthy may indeed love her son, but she is grossly misinformed. Unfortunately shows like Oprah give these individuals a platform without any counterpoint to the autism woo.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 09:15 PM
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29. The doctor charged with manslaughter for that boy's death
Edited on Mon Nov-26-07 09:17 PM by vickiss
was my doctor and saved my life, literally, unfortunately the neurological effects are irreversible in my case. He was so careful and cautious in treating me I have no doubt he did the same for that little boy.

Dr. Kerry has a nationwide patient base and is a kind, caring human being and environmental/ENT physician. Things do happen accidentally for every doctor and he is no exception.

He doesn't use regular chemical chelation, it is an organic chelation. He must be completely devastated over what happened.

As far as your beliefs regarding mercury, I am walking proof of the effects of chronic low-level mercury on a child. Until Doc diagnosed my toxicity I had one false diagnosis after another. I suffered unbelievable side effects from all of their 'conventional' medicine and I lost several years of my life because of modern medicines willful ignorance on heavy metal toxicity. I have done hundreds of hours of research and have lived with it.

Mercury is second in toxicity only to plutonium. No one will ever tell me it has no major effects on the human system and the environment. The more I studied, the more I saw the effects in action over the years in my family and myself. It attacks the CNS, the heart and the kidneys; guess what kind of health problems I suffer from.

Sorry if I seem a bit hostile over this issue, but you have no idea of how it has devastated my life and that of my family. Please watch this to understand more:

http://www.fp.ucalgary.ca/unicomm/Gazette/April4-01/mercury.htm

Imagine that happening in your brain.

If anyone here wishes to argue about this, fuck-off.

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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 05:55 PM
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4. I'm looking for a cure to Jenny McCarthy
Something like an aerosol spray that eliminates 'vapid' and 'irrelevant'.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 05:55 PM
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3. Di Fi?
Dianne Feinstein?

She would only do that if she got paid to.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 05:57 PM
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5. I'm in the autistic spectrum
I was born in the 50's. No Wi-fi.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 06:01 PM
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8. '...I've got a PBS mind in an MTV world....'
Jimmy Buffett
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 06:42 PM
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11. I'm reading a book now on Gluten
An intolerance to gluten has been shown to mimic autism symptoms. The good part of that is, is if you eliminate gluten from your diet for about a month or two, you can find out if it works for you. No harm, no foul. Eating only meat and veggies, is not a bad diet. I'm going to be going on it to see if it will help my fibromyalgia.

zalinda
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 08:06 PM
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22. Zalinda, a gluten-free diet really helped me
I was nearly incapacitated by a variety of autoimmune illnesses. I've read lots on wheat-free and gluten-free diets. PM me if you'd like suggestions on some good books and research articles. :-)

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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 06:51 PM
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12. This sentence here tells you it's BS
In case that wasn't clear: Mariea and Carlo claim that Wi-Fi is a significant causal factor in the development of autism and it interferes with the treatment of autism.

There is no "treatment" for autism. It's not a disease, it's a disorder. You can't treat or cure it.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 07:49 PM
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18. Of course you can treat it.
There are all sorts of different tools to help those on the spectrum function at a higher level and/or minimize "symptoms" the patient finds bothersome. (That is put awkwardly but I hope you understand my point)
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 08:40 PM
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25. You can do things to help manage the "symptoms",
and to help increase functioning/ability to cope. But autism in and of itself cannot be "treated". Nothing you do or take will get rid of it or make someone "less-autistic".
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 07:57 PM
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20. That's not true. The symptoms can be lessened greatly and sometimes
even extinguished in the mildest cases with behavior modification therapy.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 08:47 PM
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26. Symptoms may be reduced
But the autism remains.




What is the best intervention for my child with autism/PDD? Can autism be cured?

There is no cure for autism at present. There are many kinds of intervention suggested by people and professionals with different degrees of experience with autistic people. Be wary of any intervention that promises a cure or that suggests that the particular method advocated is the only effective approach. There are data to indicate that the best intervention for autism/PDD is early intensive intervention that utilizes behavioral methods and speech and language therapy to remediate specific deficits.

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What about medication for my child with autism?

There is no medication that can cure autism, and no one medication that is recommended for individuals with autism. Medications can be recommended to help with very specific target symptoms that are associated with autism. Some of these symptoms might be extreme difficulty attending to the pertinent aspects of the environment or aggression towards self or others.



http://www.med.yale.edu/chldstdy/autism/pddinfo.html#intervention
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 07:46 PM
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17. because, of course, there was no autism before wi-fi
and here I thought it was cell phones, or was it mercury, or nerds breeding? AFAIK, autism is a complex phenomenon - or spectrum of phenomena - and there may not be a single cause.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 07:52 PM
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19. An old neighbor of mine has Aspergers. I guess the wifi went back in time and got him
because he's not only older than wifi, he's older than the earliest incarnations of the internet.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 08:12 PM
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23. So the only possible explanation is...
that autism causes wi-fi!
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 09:26 PM
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30. He does have a BS in computer science.
:shrug:
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 08:33 PM
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24. Why is it that when it comes to autism, people get fucking stupid.
Jesus Christ. Nobody is arguing that chicken pox are caused by Wi Fi, or vaccines yet are they?
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 08:53 PM
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27. Because autistic kids can be devastating to a family.
They used to blame the Mother for the autism.

Nowadays, they blame whatever is the latest trendy "theory," no matter how much pure bullshit.

Any family with a mentally ill family member goes through this.
(And before anyone dumps on me, I'm bipolar.)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 03:03 AM
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32. They called them "Refrigerator Moms"
ANY life-threatening/altering illness/syndrome/disease/condition, can and does destroy families...

Childbirth is all about creating that perfect child, to complete the perfect family..

The death of the DREAM, is what's hard to accept, and desperate people do grasp at anything that they think MIGHT help their child..

What's even more devastating is that these days with both Mom and dad having to have jobs, a handicapped child is just not "affordable", no matter how good your insurance is.. People are dragged through hell, just trying to advocate for the care the child needs.. No doctor/clinic/HMO is going to OFFER state of the art care.. they will do their best to keep the care as minimal as possible, unless of course you have extra money laying around, and demand it..

My friend has a teen-aged son who is on the severe end of the autism spectrum, and that family has been put through the wringer, just trying to get Miles the care he needs, and as he gets older, it only gets worse..

She cannot quit working to care for him, because HER job is the one with the medical benefits, so she has guilted herself to near suicide, many times...

The more money someone has, the more likley they are to keep trying things..anything that might help..
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:30 AM
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31. Ah, 1000 years ago it would have been demons
They're just moving with the times. :shrug:
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FyurFly Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 08:58 PM
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28. In the movie Johnny Mnemonic...

Wasn't the disease called the "black shakes" or something like that, that was caused by information overload in the airwaves?

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