My Thanksgiving with Bush-loving relatives.

[Cyrano]

Like many of you, I spent Thanksgiving tolerating a couple of Bush-loving relatives who were there along with all the sane people. And I just can’t comprehend what goes on in their minds. Do they have defective genes? Are they an evolutionary mistake? Have pods snatched their bodies and replaced them? Beats me.

Perhaps it had something to do with the fact that their parents were Nixon supporters even after that nut job was thrown out of the White House. Are stupidity and/or madness hereditary? (Concerning Nixon, the proof that the man was anal retentive is that photo of him walking on a beach in wingtips.)

It’s hard to enjoy a day where you have to bite your tongue to keep the peace. They spouted their mindless talking points at every opportunity while I tried to make small talk about how much I loved the wallpaper.

And almost as disturbing were the relatives who pay no attention to today’s world and don’t even recognize the name Karl Rove. They are mostly older and lived through WWII. Yet, they were clueless as to the current cloud of fascism being cast over them. However, it was neither the time nor place to “educate” them, assuming that would even be possible.

So how did you make out with any brain-dead relatives this Thanksgiving?

[peacebird]

1. fortunately my relatives are all liberal Dems. Yule is when old family friends descend - koolaide

drinking conservatice "christian" sorts who think bush is saving our heathen nation and waging a holy war, a crusade for christ if you will, in the middle east... :eyes: :puke:

[havocmom]

2. Happiness is a small, intimate holiday celebration

Havocdad is politically sane and the dog doesn't say much.

Being a hermit has its perks.

[Cha]

32. Oh yes, it does!

:)

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

40. Was your post edited because it previously said...

"The dog is politically sane and Havocdad doesn't say much"?

[havocmom]

47. LOL

No, the typo wasn't that bad.

Actually, the dog, is a bit of a bigot. He does not believe in equal hugs and treats for cats.

Don't know where I went wrong with that mutt.

[NMDemDist2]

3. my mother in law -- Fox News fan

her two standard lines are, when we bring things to her attention are:

"They just tell you want you want to hear"

"Well, nobody really knows"

Hubby went off this last visit. he told her you can 'really know' if you check multiple sources and fact check.

and that what she remembers as what "Republican" stood for has absolutely nothing to do with what's going on today.

She countered with "Well, I don't really pay that much attention" and hubby came back with "Well we do!"

[Whoa_Nelly]

4. One person thought there were about 370 US military deaths in Iraq

When I told him the actual number, he was "Oh. Whatever."

This person also chooses to not vote. :eyes:

[Kurovski]

21. That just shocked me.

Are they young enough to be drafted?

What age is that now? 39?

[Whoa_Nelly]

26. Naw...the guy is about 60

And kind of selfish...very apathetic about politics.

[lame54]

5. I hope the food was good

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jTW0y6kazWM

[hobbit709]

6. Luckily all my relatives have brains and use them

But if any of them were RWs, I wouldn't bother being around them.

[Cha]

33. Exactly! But,

if some household like the OP's..the relavites bring up the bushits and the talking points then it's what we call.. FAIR GAME.

They deserve through chutzpah to have facts shoved in front of their face.

[Blue_In_AK]

7. My condolences.

We were blessed to be able to share Thanksgiving dinner with my son-in-law's very large extended family (probably around 50 of them) who are ALL rabid Democrats, almost as much as I am. Now, THAT'S something to be thankful for, especially here in red Alaska. :)

[Cyrano]

8. That's great. I'm envious.

[Annces]

9. I looked at lots of kiddie videos

and youtubes. My sister's husband wants McCain and she herself has never heard of Kucinich. What can you do? And trying to tell them about my current projects for animal rights is hopeless. I have not found the perfect solution, other than enjoy the food and the reunion.

[HughMoran]

10. Machine gun?

I can not stand to be around people like that so much that I just start talking louder and louder until someone butts in and stops all political discussion. It's the only way IMHO. I don't want to be around people like that anyway, so I really don't care if it disrupts family unity to some extent.

[Olney Blue]

11. There was a picture of Dubya taped to the refrigerator.

At least it kept me away from the fridge.

[TomInTib]

14. Are you kidding?

But I will admit that we printed up a goofy picture of the idiot, framed it and hung it on a bathroom door.

[Kurovski]

23. I have a picture of him in an oval "cake-frosting" pink rose-bud frame

It's being caressed by a 50's plaster statue of a ballet dancer I call "Angelo", likewise in a pink pair of tights.

It's my way of showing respect to the office of the presidency.

[TomInTib]

27. I have another frame under the picture.

The pic is a headshot of the idjit that I received in the mail a few Christmases ago (for some reason, I get cards and pics from the WH every Christmas).

The lower frame has paper in it that says:

The toilet
is just
a-head

[Kurovski]

28. Lol!

Amusing AND helpful.

When you think about it, that's about as helpful as George gets.

[donsu]

48. memories - I once hung a photo of large turtles mating on bathroom door

nt

[MikeNearMcChord]

18. At least you could've got a marker

and drew a Snidley Whiplash mustache on it!:evilgrin:

[Frustratedlady]

20. I have several of those...

They are Bushism magnets my grandson gave me for Christmas.

If I had an actual photo, it would have red rings and a black dot in the middle for darts.

[otohara]

49. I Have A Pic of Dubya, Raygun & Cheney On My Fridge

they are in shackles, chains and stripped prison outfits.

[hfojvt]

12. "brain-dead", "stupidity", "madness" "clueless"

Apparently it's hard to be humble when you know it all.

[Cyrano]

13. I make no claim to knowing it all. No one has to be a Mensa to

reach the conclusion that there's something not quite right with the thirty some odd percent of people who still support Bush and his merry band of barbarians.

[TankLV]

19. It's not hard - there is just no excuse to be a repuke. And we all know 1000 percent more than them

at a minimum.

The TRUTH has a natural liberal bias - that's just REALITY.

We only have to tell the TRUTH, while they have to LIE - all the time...

"brain-dead", "stupidity", "madness" "clueless"

The TRUTH hurts, doesn't it?

[hfojvt]

41. not really

words over the internets are not as substantial as sticks or stones or the opinions of people that you really interact with. They seem to say something about the people who hurl invectives. Somebody who is 100% sure that they have found the TRUTH (in all caps, no less) does not seem very liberal to me. More like a close-minded dogmatic person, and to be fast and loose and overly-broad with harsh invectives seems kinda mean-spirited.

[Lex]

25. LOL---defender of the feeble freepers.

Great gig.

[hfojvt]

38. I saw it as more of an attack on close-minded hubris

Not really an attractive trait from either side of the spectrum.

Disagree with me, and you are not just wrong, you are brain-dead.

[Cyrano]

43. There are many issues with which I disagree.

Unprovoked war, torture, the shredding of the constitution, stolen elections, ... well, you get the idea. I have no idea what your position is on these issues. But they are things that cause me to hurl invectives at those who believe in them.

[spoony]

51. Which you'd be right to do, if they actually believed in those things

but we should remember that there are some good people on the other side who are not evil, they are just WRONG. They don't see it the way you phrased it; they don't think they're supporting stolen elections and shredding the Constitution. So hurling invectives at them does little good toward actual change.

[Cyrano]

52. If they haven't "changed" by now, do you think they ever will?

For the time being, I'll stick with hurled invectives. After the tons of poison we've had to take from Bush, Cheney, Rove, Limbaugh, Coulter, et al, I don't think anything I've said comes close to the depths of the sewer they inhabit.

However, let's not forget the American and Iraqi dead and maimed to whom any change of tone would be meaningless. I doubt if the term "WRONG" that you used can be applied to crimes against humanity.

I understand that you are trying to be tolerant and I respect that. But there are some things that are not forgivable.

[AtomicKitten]

15. I chose to forgo such a spectacle and knock on doors for Obama instead.

[kimsterdemster]

16. my MIL...

said she not longer likes *, when she mentioned julieannie i googled up rudy in drag for her and she was appalled, i live in one of the reddest counties in OK, of course she had never seen these pic's. :banghead:

[Bitwit1234]

17. My grand daughter in law from North Carolina

is the only republican in our immediate family. AND the family does not pressure her, but she is gradually changing sides. She does not care for bush and his policies either.

Now long distance my two sisters and their family kiss bush and rush ass every day. And not body could deter them.

[MrMickeysMom]

22. I'm luckier than you that way. eom

[Lady Effingbroke]

24. My mother: "History will prove you wrong - Bush will be remembered as a good president."

Two words: Willful Ignorance.

[Lindsey]

31. I don't have any relatives out here so I spent the day (as I have for

almost 20 years)w/like-minded friends and friends of friends. I always have a great time...not a repug. in the crowd. I'd be very bummed to have to be around anyone in a social setting that has that mindset.

[Cha]

34. Lying and killing innocent babies,

children, women, and men..never goes in style with people of substance.

That's what bushite and his henchcreeps say ..why would anyone repeat proven liars?

[A HERETIC I AM]

29. I took a nap

Seriously.

My Sis was down w/ her hubbster who is VERY religious. Needless to say, we don't have too much in common. I knew walking in that the potential for a protracted debate was high so...i took a nap.

My niece told me "I would have paid to see that conversation. I would have loved to see you tear him to shreds".

Naah. Mom would have just been upset. Easier to just have a nap.

Turkey was good and i am rather well rested!

[DesertRat]

30. We just agree not to discuss politics when we're together. n/t

[Sam_Smith]

35. I am lucky

my folks were GOP back in the day. They loved Reagan. Then Bush 1 for his first term. When Bill Clinton ran in 92 they voted for him and have voted for Democrats for President since. As they grew older the more moderate they became now they are just shy of what I would consider to be an actual liberal. So holidays at my place are really nice.

I have one brother who is a bushbot but, he and I decided to just not talk about politics.

[knitter4democracy]

36. Ours was interesting--Solidly RW family saying they want national health care.

They were all for a national health care system now that the insurance promised by their employers is drying up (they're retired and getting the shaft). Then Grandma went off about greedy corporate execs getting bonuses while they reneg on the promises made to loyal employess.

It was the most fun I've had in ages. These are koolaid drinkers, and even they are starting to see that the system is not made for people like them.

[Raine]

37. Everybody keeps their big mouths shut

during extended family get togethers, agreeing to disagree and we enjoy each other's company. :-)I don't know why in some families when there is such a difference in political viewpoints politics is even discussed. x(

[tammywammy]

42. I'm not even really sure what the political leanings of all my family are

Because we have more important things to talk about the few times a year all of us get together. :shrug:

On Thursday, I discussed how I bought a home a few months ago, my SIL is pregnant, how my mom broke her arm. There was a long discussion between my mom and her brothers & sisters on their state of health and what medicines they like. Long talk about my grandpa's health and what the doctor said recently. (Overall, he's doing well, but we think one of his medicines is eliminating his appetite and we're worried that he's not eating enough, but he ate a lot Thursday). I watched all the great-grand kids play in a bounce house and run around the room. Oh and we ate a whole lotta food.

Over 30 people were there and politics never came up. Politics was the last thing on my mind. :)


Edited to add: And yesterday I wore my "I (heart) Obama" shirt yesterday, more because I like it and still, didn't talk politics. :)

[Zorra]

39. Fox News is an incredibly effective means of making people totally stupid. n/t

[monmouth]

44. I lost it on your "wallpaper" comment..lol. Remember for those

without relatives...Marie Callander serves a damn good turkey and never discusses politics...

[Echo In Light]

45. Fortunately there are zero Bush/Cheney supporters among our family

There's only one couple who generally side with republicans for financial reasons, yet they never vote. Go figure. My wife does have a brother who was a former marine, and has two stepsons enlisted also, and two years ago he and one of them showed up at a holiday get together with "kill" footage from Iraq via laptop. Everyone was difgusted with them, even a Vietnam vet.

[pkz]

46. I couldn't control myself

I was cooking and listening to all the garbage, my Mom telling me "they are just trying to bait us, don't open your mouth, they don't even watch the news" I plop down a humongous bowl of mashed potatoes, took all I could take, I finally had to tell my WAR loving brother, RN sister spewing Clinton trash, RW til death Uncle...

"There are only two reasons why you still support this administration:
(1) you are too embarrassed to admit you were wrong or
(2) or you are a total idiot"

33 witnesses, all went silent, lots of open mouths and snickers, but not one single comeback, not even a peep.

[Lars39]

50. hehe

One of those priceless "wish I had a Kodak" moments that your family won't ever forget. :D