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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:03 AM Original message |
Why does Kucinich remain a Democrat? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
1. Uh oh. |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
2. woohoo |
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dbt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
3. It's a fair question. |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
4. It's DEMOCRATIC Underground, Toots. |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. So I take it you are happy with the Democratic Controlled Congress? |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Not entirely. But I don't make blanket statements about the entire Democratic Party, |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #8 |
105. I see your reading skills leave a lot to be desired |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. A majority is not 'control', Toots. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
59. A simple majority is indeed "control", |
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stranger81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
78. the repugs are still advancing their agenda NOW, even as the minority party |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
22. because the current dem party are paid off crooks with small special interests |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
28. yeah, when unquestioning loyalty is so much more desireable |
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personman (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
61. To some of us, democracy is more than a party |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
71. It's my party and I'll bitch if I want to |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 07:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
99. FALSE MEME ALERT: the Democrats in Congress showed the highest Democratic unity score in 51 years. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 08:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
124. Probably because even Democrats can always do better. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
6. simple is as simple does and you seem |
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madmunchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #6 |
110. I actually think it is a fair question. Much of the Democratic Party in Congress is really quite |
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qdemn7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
7. Do you want Kucinich |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
9. I think the real question is: Why does Hillary remain a Democrat? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Oh, dear. Hold on... |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
77. Yep, that one made me sit down. Pass the salt... nt |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. DING-DING-DING! |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. And the thread turns into another Hillary bashing! |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. oh snap |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #9 |
25. yep. she'd just fit in perfectly with the repuke |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
27. Because she IS a Democrat. |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. No, Kuchinich is the REAL democrat! |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Hint --They BOTH are. |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I'm not the one who started this tread. That person thinks Kuchinch |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Then respond to them. |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. A REAL DINO she is too! |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. sorry --that's just absurd. |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. A Democrat or a DINO? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Stop paying attention. |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #34 |
46. Somebodys gots to. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Why did Hearst give money to FDR? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Murdoch has given money to numerous democrats |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
63. Rupert Murdoch Loves Hillary Clinton |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
65. Murdoch has done MORE than just donate to Hillary. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #32 |
66. "leans toward the corporations a wee bit much" |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 03:00 AM Response to Reply #32 |
94. That's right |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
42. Oh, now THERE'S a question! |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
45. A former Walmart board member that in itself should make her a Republican. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. oh bullshit |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Having a tenure at Walmart is enough for me. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Yeah |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Keep supporting her, Kucinich gets my vote the only REAL Dem |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. yawn |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Vs a pragmatist with no real values. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
86. People who view |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 02:03 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. and if being pragmatic means |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 02:10 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. It doesn't mean that |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #91 |
102. If a candidates' solutions don't |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #102 |
106. And Kucinich is entirely unpragmatic |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #106 |
115. and we will rely on |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:33 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. As I said |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 07:06 AM Response to Reply #86 |
100. Pragmatism for the sake of pragmatism |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Not for the sake of pragmatism |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #101 |
103. that is why obama is full of crap. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. There's compromise on everything |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #104 |
116. If Obama can get compromise |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:41 AM Response to Reply #116 |
119. All politicians compromise, even Kucinich |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #119 |
125. get off it |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #101 |
111. Actually... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. You're just wrong |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Evil is not something to compromise on. |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:05 AM Response to Reply #101 |
120. So how has hillary gotten bush to compromise on anything? |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
13. There are perks belonging to the Majority Party in the House... |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. There is at least one voice of logic and reason in this madhouse |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
14. Why do YOU remain a Democrat? |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I am not now nor have I ever been a Democrat |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
17. Agreed. The Democratic party is not deserving of Kucinich |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
20. never-mind |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
21. Because Nader's approach is wrong? |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
23. My question is, why is it that so many Democrats do not share the same beliefs as |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
84. Great question |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Because the voters in many areas |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
24. That is funny. I thought he was just being ignored. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
26. For the chance to lead the party to a better place. |
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nealmhughes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
29. In reality, both parties, the DP and RP are both coalitions with the minor parties lacking leaders. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 12:11 AM Response to Reply #29 |
88. LMFAO Anti-Sodom Force and No Tax and No Pot Patriots Brigade |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
33. Because he is one? |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:16 AM Response to Reply #33 |
121. I didn't know the GOP was 1 guy. |
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FREEWILL56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 03:22 AM Response to Reply #121 |
126. On second thought it could be one guy if the GOP stands for |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
38. Perhaps he stays in the party because it's the "lesser of two evils". |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
40. Kucinich is the only TRUE Democrat. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #40 |
51. are you 10 years old |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. Vermont Gov. Dean: I represent the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. And that has to do with what? |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
69. Wow. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. let me give you a clue.... or 10 or more: |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
80. Kucinich is the only TRUE Democrat running for president |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #80 |
107. Thank you. That is what I meant. |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
43. The two parties do mirror themselves. Corporate Whores about 75 percent of both parties. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
48. Irresistable DEM-bashing flame bait. Ohhh, oooh. - - - Hey, ask him. |
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toadzilla (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
50. we live in a 2 party system. |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
55. Famous Democrats: George Wallace and FDR |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. it is a big tent party |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. Well, sort of |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. That's an excellent point |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. In his later years, Wallace championed all the |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. You are correct. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. LBJ also. the man who committed genocide in SE Asia. |
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BlueJac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
56. The Democrats.... |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
58. Yeah, why doesn't he go join up with Ron Paul? |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Maybe they'll both be nominated! |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
67. damn good question. He's antiwar, the Dem. party is just the opposite |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
70. It's the rest of them that should quit |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
72. Maybe because he knows we have a 2 party system. |
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AlertLurker (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
79. Dems seem to love and hate Dennis Kucinich for the same reason. |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
81. Because he wants to change the party from within.... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-24-07 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
85. Why should he change when the party has gone right? |
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Solar_Power (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
89. Green Party |
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Jim Lane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
92. Several good responses buried in the haystack of Hillary bickering |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
93. He's a rare true Dem among corporatist-lites |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 03:06 AM Response to Original message |
95. Dennis Kucinich represents everything the Democratic party SHOULD be. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 04:34 AM Response to Original message |
96. Why did Paul Wellstone? n/t |
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johan helge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 06:02 AM Response to Original message |
97. Because he's not an idiot |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
98. Because he has no joementum. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
108. Because his party has always supported him |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
109. Why don't you go to Green Underground to advocate that a Dem leave his party? |
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stuartrida (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-25-07 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
114. Dennis is the ONLY choice for any progressive who wants RON PAUL as VP!!! |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Rumors rumors rumors..... |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 04:26 AM Response to Reply #114 |
122. It's not set in stone |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 04:35 AM Response to Reply #114 |
123. No real progressive wants |
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