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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 03:46 AM Original message |
Jim Wallis: The Religious Right's Era Is Over |
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Nite Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 04:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. At last |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 04:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. the religious right may become less involved in politics, but they won't die out |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 05:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. See Jesus Camp.... |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
86. I saw that. We have to fight Osama on one side... |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 04:15 AM Response to Original message |
2. We shouldn't be enamored by Wallis. |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 04:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. There are other sources to learn about Wallis for those who don't know who he is: |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 04:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. what kind of bigotry? Do you mean he doesn't toe the Likud line on Israel? |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 08:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Bigot is probably too strong a word |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Wallis "prefers Christians to lead because... |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. An important cause - Poverty: |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. you got to see IDIOCRACY. It nails this issue. |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
73. Which is why most atheists don't trust him |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 12:58 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. No one on the religious left is telling atheists they can't participate in politics. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #76 |
93. Well, I'm sure most aren't, but Wallis is. -nt |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. ! |
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keopeli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 05:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I searched the R/T forum for a few months and found no credible post about Wallis as a bigot. |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Yes, there are a few posters here who don't care for Wallis, and make their views known. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
47. Having "views" is one thing.... calling someone a "BIGOT" is entirely a horse of another color! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. Jim Wallis isn't a DUer; the rule does not apply to him. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #62 |
84. Gotta *love* your whole peaceful attitude there! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
48. thanks for going to that effort! |
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Nutmegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 04:43 AM Response to Original message |
6. R, K and |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. Thank you, Nutmegger! |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 06:47 AM Response to Original message |
9. We can only hope. |
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Crocodile Hunter (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Religion/New Agers |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Hi Crocodile Hunter!! |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Welcome to DU, Crocodile Hunter! |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. The answer is in the golden rule |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
61. Welcome to DU! |
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Crocodile Hunter (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #61 |
80. Thanks for the welcomes |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. Meet the 'Red Letter Christians' |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
67. Love Tony Campolo, he just spoke at a local Lutheran Church. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 12:29 AM Response to Reply #32 |
75. Thanks for starting this thread, Sapphire. Jim Wallis always gives me hope & optimism... |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 06:41 AM Response to Reply #32 |
79. I've heard that term before... |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
11. They won't go away so easily |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
13. Yes, and Wallis was so correct in supporting Bush's faith-based initiative |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
51. Jim Wallis: An Insider Reveals Faith-Based Manipulation by the White House |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Hindsight being 20/20 |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. Could be -- though the rules of Beltway Baseball dictate that whoever |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. I thought he should perhaps be more like Jesus or prophets who spoke truth |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
14. K&R for Jim Wallis. |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Thank you, intheflow! |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
17. Not a chance in hell |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Yes and no |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
63. "until we get rid of the "no faith is a good faith" crowd" |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. That's where they burn the unbelievers. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
82. What do you mean by "get rid of the no faith is a good faith crowd? |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
25. Thanks for posting this -- K&R! |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. You're welcome! |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
28. Recommended, Sapphire Blue! |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Thank you, mvd. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. I hope he's right.... |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. See Post 32: Meet the 'Red Letter Christians' |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. You're welcome...... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. That pretty well sums it up! |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
52. I do, too. I'm weary of the far wrong fundamentalists - EVERYWHERE. |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. "We must not EVER take this too much to heart and drop our guard." |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #53 |
72. Thanks. I really believe this. |
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Superman Returns (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
30. possibly Mr. Wallis |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. You're correct, religion isn't the only source of morality. But why do you show such disrespect... |
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Superman Returns (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. I wasn't being disrespectful |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. You did make it clear; I misunderstood your comment! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
64. You kind of did, by capitalizing atheists. |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. I've seen it both capitalized & not capitalized, here & elsewhere. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
92. Disrespectful of the politicization of faith. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
31. Not until they have left this planet and are kneeling at the right hand... |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Why do you show such disrespect for those who are religious? |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I'm just doing my part for your persecution gospel (and making up your... |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
38. If people have been paying attention |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Not quite |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
69. I would like to hope that you are right |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
40. I'd like to believe this, but is there any EVIDENCE that evangelicals are in fact deserting |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
41. David Kuo's statements in his book will do much to lessen fundie influence... |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
44. As long as they vote in HUGE blocks for one party... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
46. I love the sound of this: |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. I love the sound of that, too! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Yup, this is where the action is now. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Perhaps the Dems will "follow" the lead of this new movement? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #56 |
83. From your keyboard to the monitor of the goddess!!! ^_^ |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 11:37 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Hell, I AM poor folk. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Thanks for understanding. We poor folk are pretty isolated. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. I'm in! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Thanks so very much! We really need some help on this. |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
57. i don't agree. i see nothing in the news or in my personal observations |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
91. I got to agree- the RR as we know it is still in power. n/t |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
58. I'll kick that. - n/t |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
59. "asserting their faith more aggressively" - that's part of the problem, Jim, not a solution. |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
66. There are of coure always going to be the few, very radical ones |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
74. Jim Wallis is divisive |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
77. What I really like about this-- |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 03:04 AM Response to Original message |
78. Let it be true |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
81. The era of the unapologetically non-spiritual and non-religious keeping our mouths shut is over, too |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #81 |
97. Thats the FUCKING TRUTH right their my non-theistic friend..nt |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 12:08 AM Response to Reply #81 |
98. Nor are people who are simply sick of being forced to listen |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
85. This is not a suprise to me. |
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ray of light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
94. thanks! I will be sharing this. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
96. I dont trust anything with "Church" in its title... |
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