If JFK was shot today, in 2007,

[proud2BlibKansan]

they could never get away with all the cover up. Just think about it. Everyone and their neighbor has a cell phone with a camera on it. And you can't walk a block down a street in public without seeing someone with a video camera. By midnight, we would be seeing a dozen different videos of the shooting on CNN.

Remember how long it was before we even knew about the Zabruder (sp?) film? Wasn't it several YEARS before we were even told there was a film of the shooting? No way would that happen today.

Of course they are so much better at cover up today too. And much much more evil. But still we would see the video right away if JFK was shot today.

[Gormy Cuss]

1. They'd just blame bin Laden and declare war on North Korea. n/t

[celestia671]

2. Or Iran

Gotta get those evil doers!

[proud2BlibKansan]

3. They would probably doctor the film to make the shooter

look middle eastern.

[celestia671]

4. Yeah...

They would photoshop one of the heads of the '9/11' hijackers onto the shooter's body.

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. And leave his passport in front of that window in the book depository.

[Bluebear]

8. Man did you ever say a mouthful. nt

[dflprincess]

5. Actually, "Life" magazine published the still shots of the film

within a few weeks so we did know there was a film. However, if I recall correctly, "Life" did leave out some frames they thought were too graphic for the public. And, I think I've read that they transposed a couple of the more critical frames from the film. It was years before the film began to leak out to the public. I've often said if it wasn't for the Zapruder film we probably would have been told JFK had a massive cerebral hemorrhage and anyone who said differently was a nut.

You are correct, it would have been much harder to pull the murder off now - I suppose it would have just been done in a different way.

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. Wow I guess I don't remember that the film was out that soon

Thanks for the info.

[Octafish]

22. LIFE ''accidently'' Transposed the Sequence of Select Frames...

The frames then made it look like JFK's head was moving forward, as if shot from behind.

The truth, when the film finally was viewed in its entirety years later, showed JFK moving back and to the left, as if shot from in front.

http://www.jfklancer.com/History-Z.html

PS: Dan Rather gets involved in the story, stating he got the film from Zapruder the day of the assassination and taking it directly to Kodak for processesing. Rather was among the first to view the film and also "accidently" that it showed JFK's head moving forward, as if shot from behind.

[hedda_foil]

6. You;re right. Everyone in the crowd would have a camera phone or digital camera going.

On the grassy knoll, on both sides of the street and within Zapruder's blind spot, on the bridge, from the windows along the way -- video images (with sound) would be captured everywhere. There would be hundreds of videos posted from every conceivable angle within hours, probably capturing the image of every single shooter, however many there may have been. And with people panning up, down and sideways by accident and on purpose, not a spot would be missed. Bloggers and DUers would be analyzing the shooting and the videos from the moment it happened and posting their thoughts. The figures behind the conspiracy might remain in the shadows (though we'd all know who they were) but the fact of the conspiracy and the identities of the shooters and watchers (including the so-called "bums" and GHWB) would be public knowledge within 24 hours. The MSM might even pick up on the evidence. You're right. It wouldn't work in 2007.

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. DU would be in combat mode

LOL

[Diclotican]

7. proud2Blib

proud2Blib

President Bush have managed to cover up, to lie and to stop peopole who want the truth on the table.. So why not killing of a President...

But it wil be more dificult then it was in 1963 thats true.. But all material from video-camera can be "lost" in the system, and never recovered.. Even in secure locations, its is known that video casets with the information thast can close a case have sudently goon missing, never to surface again.. So even with all our technic. All our know how of how to do it. Even today a President can be killed, and the truth be buried for decades, maybee decentiums...

It is clear for all who have read a little about this case, that Oswald was just one of the peopole involved in this case. In a dark corner somhwere it was someone who want JFK out of the way, he was a popular president, who have made a lot of enemies.. Some inside the system, many outside the system.. We know that the Mafia was not exacly in love with the man.. And many in the armed forces was not either excatcly in love with the President, becouse they was seeing for "nice" with the sovjets..or with all the nations where US was not on good terms...

I dont know who killed Kennedy. Official it was Oswald a lonely wolf with a gun... Who was really there, to kill the President are not known.. Maybee it never wil be known.. Or it wil be known when some in many year to come are snooping into some archives in the public domaine.. And there it was, the proof everyone missed..

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native language

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. Bush sealed the records for 40 more years

so we won't know in my lifetime.

My kids promised me that if the truth comes out after I am gone, they will tell me. :)

[Diclotican]

19. proud2Blib

proud2Blib

A seal can be broken, long before 40 year... It depend if the goverment want to get the real truth out in the open.. Someway the truth wil come out....

I hope the truth wil come out, someday.. In our lifetime.. But I guess it wil take its time before the truth come out...

Nice to know that your children wil tell you what happenend that day, even that you are dead;).. They may have to come your grave then and tell the tombstone what happend...

I dont know how old you are, but I am in my 30s, and wil problely be in my 70s when the seal are lifted... Dam I wil be grown up then, Scary thing...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish not my native language

[proud2BlibKansan]

21. I was 10 when JFK was murdered

So I am old enough to be your mother. :)

[Diclotican]

23. proud2Blib

proud2Blib

Aha, you are so Old:P. Good to know;) Then I belive you have some kids on your own then?

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native language

[dflprincess]

30. Protecting his family?

n/t

[spacelady]

20. Welcome to DU, Diclotican, your command of the language is

just fine, in fact you have brought out some many fine points about this tragedy that is not only an American loss, but a terrible thing that happened to the world and I fear is still happening.

[Diclotican]

26. spacelady

spacelady

Thank you, i try my best, and use the diconary as best I can to do it right.. But I know my engelish is rather rousty, and not exactly best.. But it is a good feeling to know that engelish speaking peopole understand what I try to write down in my engelish.. I know my grammar is rather bad, but as long as you understand it then I am happy, and wil try to do it better next time;)

What is happening to United States today, is not just a los for America, but also a loss for everyone on this planet. We need a "big brother" as I verry often have seen US as. But we dosent need a school bully who act as a man going mad becouse he feel hurt.. The first tragedy was that mr GWB was "woted" as President.. The second tragedy was the Twin Towers, where US have the symphaty in the rest of the world.. Even in country where US tradionaly have not been at good friends. Even there the sympati for what happend in New York was great.. Even Iran, was sadneded by this, and many of the mor conservative leaders was spaking alound about this as a crime, as a werry un-islamic thing to do.. But the american public was _never_ told this, not after Mr Bush in 2002 just days after the ruble in New York was down, branded Syria, Iran and Irak as tree member of the Axis of evil.. Mr Bush dont reconiced that Iran was instrumental in the overtrown of the Taliban, becouse the help Iran was given the United States.. Iran have their own problems with the Taliban who 2 or tree monts before the invation in Afghanistan have tree diplomates killed by the Taliban - not becouse they was spying, but becouse they was been seeing as "not islamic enough"... The Whanabit sorts of Islam, that Taliban was preatching, and still preatching was rather extreme, even for the Iranis...

I hope that United States of America can wake up, and see the word as it is. And try to fix the problems you have had lately.. Not just slide the ounder the rug, but really clean it up... And send the criminals to where their belong, in prison.. I wont cry a tear if mr Bush, and many of the Administration hi are the president of, was been sent to a maximum Prison for the rest of the life.. Followed by many others of the Neo-cons establiment.. Many of them have been doing both low and hig-crimes and should be verry, verry happy if they just get life without parole... After what they have been doing... The list from PNAC should bee a important way to go, to send them to court..Or to the International Criminal Courth in Haag...

I hope that US once against can stand for freedom, liberty, and everything US once stand for. Not for that they are standing today... THe regime of Bush have to go, sooner or later, not just for the rest of the world, but also for the survilence of United States.. It is a amazing country, with a verry open and friendly public.. I want to wisit your country mutch more, have a looong holiday there, to try to learn the peopole and try to understand what is going on there someday.. Maybee when I am been old and rich;)..


Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native language

[spacelady]

27. You are recognizing that the rest of the world is getting better

information than the average person in the U.S. - and that is in the form of background noise once home from work, fixing dinner, helping with homework, bathing & putting kids to bed.

The PNAC agenda is a rare thing in that these people were so arrogant and sure of their righteousness that THEY PUT IT IN WRITTEN FORM. They have leanred well and now promote their evil plans in private.

The "big brother" you are talking about has become extinct, the current U.S. Big Brother is only out for himself.

[Diclotican]

28. spacelady

spacelady

Is not that both curius, and maybee even some scary, thas we on the outside have a wieder information of what is happening inside US, than they who live there?. I am not a expert on america by far. In the best of sircumstances I may get a glimse here and there what USA are today.. But It is little scary that I can se the lines, where the american cant se a thing...

the group who founded PNAC, are arrogant, and they belived so mutch in what they have ploted for all this years, that they was sure everyone in the world undestand what they want, and axeptcted as it was.. The Neo-cons, as they call themselfs, belive in a world, where United States of America rule, both by "friendship, if needed but also by force when needed": If just everyone satt down and understand what PNAC really stand for, World Domination, the rest of the world wil not stand it, and fight back.. If we think of world-dominance we dosent think of nice, neet clothet men and woman, who speak softly, and proper. We think of the german SA,or SS, who beatning everyone who dosent condone what they are doing.. We dont learn I guess, that evil come in many shapes and formes.. And not every shade of evil are coming in the form of a Stoormtropper.. It can to come in the collour and shape of a decent locking man and woman, who are wel educated and who eat a nice expencive dinner, and speak politely about family and friends..
Many of the GREAT CRIMINALS in the nazi-regime was not the thugs you was hearing about in the street, beating sosial democrats or kommunist.. It was also proper clothed, soft speaking and verry educated men, who you dont belived was the archmen behdind Holochaust...

Reinhard Heydrick, the Architect beheind the death camps, was a excelent violin player, in world class.. But he was also one of the most notorius murder in the 3 Reich...

But, as in the 3 Reich, many peopole when they understand what was happening was trying to fight back. In a totaly stat as Germany was, it was not easy, and for the most part the fighting was futile.. But as the germany was been more and more brutal, more and more people understand that this regime was horrible.. And in the late stages of the war, thounsands of germans was tired about the nazi-propaganda. And just wanted the war over.. But then US WAS a democracy... Not as today, when the US just dosent care to respect democracy anymore.. But is a rather totaly state itself.. The Neo-cons learned wel their lessons to consive what they really wanted to do.. To they was in power, and have the means to do it..

Problely, but I belive the "big brother" as I see it, are there, and wanted to come loose for the chacles of Evil. We european NEED our big brother, And US NEED us too.. That is a fact.. We can hang together, or we can hang from the gallow on our other sides of the Atlantic.. Europe need US as a friend, as a allied partner.. US need us as friends, and as allied partnes.. And I belive that it can be don, But US have to do some really hard soulchearthing in the meantime... But I do belive, when this regime, and specially the group behind PNAC is arrested, going to trial and the whole sherenade is coming into light.. Then the REAL UNITED STATES OF AMERICA can stand out, and say, Here I am again.. Free from the madness this PNAC gang wanted to hide my soul, my life in... But you need a GREAT PRESIDENT for doing that.. And lately you have not have a FDR or a Kennedy or a Truman or one of the other great presidents... And the Democratic party are more happy to fight forthemself, then to fight the Republicans it looks like for what I see...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native language

[Bluebear]

9. "All signs point to Hamad Al Yabadabadu, the #2 mastermind of 9/11 as being the triggerman...." nt

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. And he had a gun that shot bullets that traveled in a circle

:)

[soothsayer]

10. really? cuz the 911 coverup is working just fine

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. That is a bit more complicated than the JFK murder

Lots more to cover up. And the evidence blew up.

[EFerrari]

17. Is it? Don't half the people in NYC poll as not believing it?

[RaleighNCDUer]

16. That's why small aircraft are the tool of choice, today. nt

[nadine_mn]

24. Sad isnt it

I can't help but think what things would be like if Wellstone wasn't on that little plane.

[nadine_mn]

25. Pat Tillman

we know it was murder...3 shots to the head, yet after a few days in the news, its buried again.

Granted that was overseas...but there are films of 9/11 from surveillence cameras that are gone forever.

I guess I have become too cynical...if JFK was shot today...I think it would still be covered up.

[DFW]

29. Especially much more evil

How long would it be before Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter and Robertson
would be on the tube saying it was God's will and God's punishment for
being a libbrul?

My bet is the time could be measured in minutes,

[warren pease]

31. It wouldn't make network or cable news, and would be buried on page 13...

...of the NYT first section, where the lead story would be a penetrating analysis of Bushie's diplomatic efforts to get Pakistan back in the cage, even as US leaders drool with anticipation at implementing their own version of Musharraf's national security state... and smirking all the while at the US suckers who think they're actually going to be allowed to cast a valid vote in 2008.

Back on TEEVEE, the lead stories would involve some drunk celebrity, an OJ update and the nightly murder recitation. Then there'd be a "medical moment" running some b-roll planted by one of the major pharmaceutical companies, with weather coming up, then the 20-minute sports round-up, a cutesy story about Mitzi the miniature schnauzer as her day of destiny at the dog show approaches, a look back at today's top stories, a four-minute teaser for the evening's awful programming, and fade to black.

And the public would swear they had just seen and heard everything of importance and would fall asleep believing they lived in an open society with a functional free press. Those with internet access and bookmarks to news sites originating from anywhere in the world but the US would know better.


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