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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:13 PM
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Fresh Pain for the Uninsured
So can we get real socialised healthcare yet? Seems like even the GOPosse would realise that this band-aid approach of doing just enough to get elected again isn't working.
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Fresh Pain for the Uninsured

by Brian Grow and Robert Berner


As doctors and hospitals turn to GE, Citigroup, and smaller rivals to finance patient care, the sick pay much more


n a lucrative new form of fiscal alchemy, a growing number of hospitals, working with a range of financial companies, are squeezing revenue from patients with little or no health insurance. April Dial's dealings with Hot Spring County Medical Center in Malvern, Ark., illustrate how the transformation of medical bills into consumer debt means quicker cash for medical providers but tougher times for many patients of modest means.

Dial, a 23-year-old truck-stop waitress who earns $17,000 a year plus tips, suffers from Type 1 diabetes. Sudden drops in her blood sugar level have sent her to the emergency room four times in the past three years. In September she spent three days at Hot Spring, including two in intensive care, fighting complications from her ailment. The bills came to more than $14,000. Dial's job offers no health insurance.

Until recently her mother, Carolyn, who waits tables at the same roadside diner, sent Hot Spring $100 a month under the nonprofit hospital's longstanding zero-interest payment plan. Dial says she couldn't make payments herself because she spends more than $150 a month for other treatment and insulin.

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In October she learned that Hot Spring had transferred her account to a company called CompleteCare, one of the many small firms fueling the little-known medical debt revolution. Enticed by the enormous potential market of uninsured and poorly insured patients, financial giants such as General Electric (GE), U.S. Bancorp (USB), Capital One (COF), and Citigroup (C) are rapidly expanding in the field or joining the fray for the first time. CompleteCare informed Dial that under the complicated terms of her newly financed debt, her minimum monthly payment had shot up more than fourfold, to $455. Dial says she doesn't have anywhere close to that amount left over after rent, food, and other doctor visits: "Every extra dime I have goes to paying medical bills."

Collecting from "self-pay" patients like Dial has long been the bane of medical administrators. When they don't get paid immediately, hospitals typically recover around 10¢ on the dollar owed, even when they hire collection specialists. So hospitals and clinics are bringing in more sophisticated help. They are transferring patient accounts wholesale to finance experts, banks, credit-card companies, and even private equity firms. Many of these third parties use credit scores and risk-analysis software to price the debt and impose interest rates as high as 27% on past-due bills.

Among hospitals, nonprofits like Hot Spring County Medical Center are more likely than for-profit rivals to join forces with finance firms. Fewer nonprofits have effective in-house collection departments, and in many regions a higher proportion of patients at nonprofits lack insurance. "Hospitals can't just be an interest-free finance vehicle," says Todd Cole, director of patient accounting at TriHealth, a $2 billion pair of nonprofit hospitals in Cincinnati. "The world of $5 sent to the hospital and they will never send me to collections, never sue me—that world has gone away," he adds. TriHealth sells patient accounts at a steep discount to firms that specialize in collecting delinquent consumer debt. "Hospitals need their cash," Cole says. "It is the lifeblood that supports the doctors, the nurses."

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:19 PM
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1. That's a quote that says it all, in the land of corrupt crony capitalism rum amok
"Hospitals can't just be an interest-free finance vehicle,"

God forbid that we have something, anything that isn't some sort of profit driven vehicle, healthcare, hospitals, schools, anything. The vision of corporations is that everything must be for profit, including our government. The worst thing is that all this profit must be for the corporation, not people.

What a sad, soulless country we're becoming.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:21 PM
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2. A windfall for bankruptcy lawyers..as it seems that would be the only way out from under this
landslide of horrors.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:24 PM
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3. Not under the new bankruptcy bill passed a few years back.
Oh no, this debt will continue to hang over the person until they pay it off or die. I think that this is one of the ultimate goals of corporate America, to make us all debt slaves, toiling away from birth to death, all for some sort of debt. The company store, sharecropper mentality is now going to be applied to all of us.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:26 PM
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5. I thought if you had below a certain level of income you could still file for bankruptcy.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:31 PM
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6. That quite possibly could be
However I know that the federal poverty line is something like $12-13,000 dollars. At that level, most of us won't qualify.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:47 PM
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9. Not poverty, it's the median income for a household of your size in your state
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:33 PM
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7. I do think that you are right.
And the sad thing is, if she was a lesser person, she could find a way to get on the aid rolls.

But here the Powers that Be are doing everything that they can to harass her, even though she
is trying to do the moral thing - that is, work a job and pay for her own way.

In any OTHER GODDAMN COUNTRY in the world, she would not be facing this nightmare.

Even in many third world nations, she would be okay. But not here.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:41 PM
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8. You are right..and we are on the edge of becoming one of those Third World Countries...
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:24 PM
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4. Because illness is seen as a moral failing
in this country.

If you're sick (regardless of the reason or the nature of your illness) you are somehow personally responsible for your own misfortune, therefore only you should cure yourself and clean up your own mess.

We will never have universal healthcare until a critical mass of people in this country reject that attitude.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 04:02 PM
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10. More proof of class warfare.
This stuff makes me so mad. The people who play by the rules are the ones who get screwed, while the people who run the Enrons, walk away with millions. On those rare occasions they do get caught, they probably won't go to jail, and if they do, even the jails are better.

The message to anyone paying attention is-the game is rigged, so everyone for themself. Bleed the system before there is none left.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 04:09 PM
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11. I'm sitting here nursing a sprained ankle that will not be seen by anyone
because the expense is prohibitive. Thank goodness for ice or I'd have to choose between my mortgage and my left foot. :shrug:

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