So, Nancy, is impeachment on the table now?

[Skidmore]

What does it take? McClellan says they were lies. Treason was committed.

[gateley]

1. What's the next step after Dennis's House VICTORY? And...any time frame? Thanks.

[lonestarnot]

2. Send the cameras to her house or where ever the hell she is!

:toast:

[JuniperLea]

3. If it's still off her table, she is in compliance!

So are all the nay-sayers who will no doubt give you a laundry list of ho-hum excuses as to why there should be no impeachment... all dumbass bogus reasons, of course.

[wildbilln864]

4. K.....

And R!

[spanone]

5. No Shit. What the HELL will it take?

[rocktivity]

6. You DON'T have to win, Nance--just get a simple majority vote out of the house

then let everyone who votes against it explain it next November!

Oh, and Mr. Waxman, why don't you haul Scottie in for a little chat?

:bounce:
rocknation

[TheWraith]

7. Find 17 Republicans who will vote to oust Bush. Then there's some point to it. NT

[lonestarnot]

9. Any fucking one of them that supports the bastards now should be run out of town on a rail.

[TheWraith]

11. Yes, but our political system doesn't allow for exiling someone from the country...

So we need to work with what's possible.

[lonestarnot]

17. Only out of town, aren't most pens out of town?

[ClassWarrior]

10. So you're waiting for their permission to do the right thing?

NGU.

[TheWraith]

12. Without 17 Republicans on our side, neither Bush nor Cheney goes anywhere.

Anything else is so much empty noise and wheel-spinning.

[lonestarnot]

15. And you think they will still hang with monkeyboots and his gang given this news?

Oh really. :eyes:

[TheWraith]

22. They've backed him through every other clusterfuck, haven't they?

Torture, rape, murder, the most blatant corruption in American history, and over 90% of the Republican politicos are still in lock-step behind the war and the rest of Bush's policies. What do you think it's going to take to get them to break with him? They haven't even been willing to do it to save their own necks.

[ClassWarrior]

23. Yes, they're invincible, aren't they?

:eyes:

Before today I bet you would have said the same thing about Puffy McMoonface.

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

21. Is that what you call the Constitution? "So much empty noise and wheel-spinning?"

And are you willing to destoy the Constitution without even TRYING to save it?

NGU.

[TheWraith]

25. Ah, the joys of a strawman argument. NT

[ClassWarrior]

27. The only surefire way for us to lose is to not try.

At least if we try we'll have some hope of restoring the Constitution. Or is the Constitution just a piece of paper to you?

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

28. Do you consider MLK a "straw man?" He said, “Our lives begin to end..."

"...the day we become silent about things that matter.”

and

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.”

and

“In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.”

and

“Faith is taking the first step even when you don't see the whole staircase.”

and

"A time comes when silence is betrayal."

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

51. Let's not forget, “There comes a time when one must take the position..."

“...that is neither safe nor politic, nor popular, but he must do it because his conscience tells him it is right.”

– Martin Luther King, Jr.

NGU.

[TheWraith]

53. Show me the votes.

I'd be the first person to cheer Bush and Cheney being evicted. But without 67 votes, it doesn't happen. That's just the way the law works.

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. You know the same attitude existed back in 1988

the American people don't vote for cowards.

And by the way my ISSUE is the US constitution... and I am sure I am not the only one

[sampsonblk]

45. No, you are not the only one. nt

[stimbox]

36. How about

presenting the Senate with all of the evidence first and see if there are 17 Repukes that will vote fairly.

[TheWraith]

54. You had me going until you used the ideas of Republicans and fairness in proximity. NT

[stimbox]

56. well.

that's how it's done. anything else is just defeatism or complicity.
better to try and fail than not to try at all.

[AntiFascist]

52. Haven't you been listening to Senator Biden?

Apparently there is broad bipartisan (backdoor) support to go against Bush, the only thing holding the Republicans back is fear. Perhaps it takes a scandal or further revelations to overcome that fear.

[TheWraith]

55. I don't buy it.

They've spent years kissing ass to Bush, even when it was against their best interests. I can't imagine them backing away from him now.

[baldguy]

8. Bush could strip naked, break into the Nat'l Archives

Steal the original Constitution, and take a shit on it in the Rotunda of the Capitol.

Impeachment would still NOT be on the table.

[Botany]

13. Nancy & Steny would send him a nasty letter ....

.. they would not just "take it" laying down.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

18. wrong, sorry.

they would consider holding a press conference in which they will raise the possibility of thinking about sending a nasty letter.

[jgraz]

14. Nancy'd have to find the table first

What a disappointment she is.

[Skidmore]

16. Or get a lobbyist to buy one first.

[lonestarnot]

19. I would think she she call an emergency meeting or something.

Treason is treason!

[puebloknot]

44. But be sure it's a secret meeting, Nancy. Wouldn't want to...

...stir up the rabble!

[Dr Fate]

20. Consdiering that impeaching Bush takes boat-loads of courage and work ethic...

...you can be sure it's still off the table as far as the DEM "leaders" are concerned.

No one is going to muss up their hair or dirty their fingernails over this-especially not DEM "leaders."

[here_is_to_hope]

24. Who is Nancy?

Some mythical fearless type leader?
Cuz thats what we have ya know, myths as leaders.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Kurovski]

26. Impeachment?

Don't we need a scaffold for that sort of thing?

Recommended.

[snappyturtle]

29. I think even repukes can figure out that their offices will be in bigger

jeopardy than they are now if they don't side with impeachment......maybe they'll do it themselves! It would be a smart politcal move for themselves and make the Dems look weaker than they already do.
Wasn't it the republicans who brought up impeachment in the Watergate times that forced Nixon to resign?????

[VP505]

38. That is something I

have thought about, if only the Dem's would put the effort into laying out a solid case for impeachment. At some point enough of the RePukes might realize that in the interest of covering their own asses or improving their reelection chances they should either join the impeachment crowd or initiate it themselves.

[kenfrequed]

48. YES!

I have been making this point constantly to people here but no one seems to listen.

Force Republican legislators to choose between backing an extremely unpopular president or getting reelected. This is really a great boon to any challengers looking to take the seats of incumbant republicans.

[Rex]

30. Just read that and I am wondering why they are still in office?

Did I not understand that correctly, didn't Scotty just tell us all that 5 people; Rove, Card, Dick, George and Libby committed treason against America?

Guess words don't mean anything anymore.

[Disturbed]

31. Impeach Cheney first then move on Busholini before he has

the chance to appoint another VP!

[LibertyorDeath]

32. Fuck Nancy !

Sideways......

Sell Out POS......

[rhett o rick]

33. Attention! Nancy isn't answerable to you or her constitutents. She is an incumbent and therefore

untouchable. Grouse all you like, she will be reelected guaranteed. You can't replace a Democratic incumbent, unless you are willing to vote republican. Didn't think so. Nancy doesn't care what you think, haven't you figured that out yet? If not keep writing her emails. My guess is that they go directly into the shredder.

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. Bruce Fein made that point the other day in the Rodes show

and he is right...

And you know what? just like 88 the Dems are in for a shock

Just history speaking, but the Ameircan people hate cowards, and these guys are now a profile in cowardice

[rhett o rick]

40. Agree the Dems are in for a shock. In 2006 there was a lot of enthusiasm

And we got a lot of (forgive the expression) low hanging fruit, meaning lots of repukes that were caught with their pants down in public bathrooms made it easy to defeat them. But the grassroots are disappointed with the lack of backbone of their representatives. They wanted action and have seen posturing. All the easy target repukes are gone for 2008 plus the grassroots are disenchanted.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

37. No.

It takes a village.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

39. Some of our congressional leaders live on another planet

they certainly don't want impeachment to disturb what they are doing. The voters are saying - what?

[rhett o rick]

41. Yes, it is called the incumbent planet. They know they are untouchable. nm

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. Well I am NOT voting for mine

in the primaires I will vote for anybody running against her, and in the general, I will not vote for her.

Yes I know the consequences... but they need the shock to the system... BOTH parties actually

[rhett o rick]

43. I agree with you and wish you the best. And I have done the same. But, there will be noone running

against her in the primaries, the Party will see to that. And if their an incumbent they have a lock on reelection, and they know it.

[Senator]

46. K&R&ImpeachToWin08

[Yukari Yakumo]

47. Hearsay. That all the RePugs need to say on this.

You may not like it. But unless there some direct evidence implicating Chimpy, there's nothing to convict him with.

Never mind nearly all the Senate Repugs would rather go down in flames than oust him.

[spanone]

49. not hearsay if mcclellan testifies under oath

[LiberalEsto]

50. What does it take?

A blowjob, of course.